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Sadness 7 points ago +7 / -0

IT takes more than a couple of years to change farming practices. You can't simply decide to stop using "chemicals".

For sure the government are a bunch of incompetent ideologues.

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redtoe-skipper 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yes, but note here that actually the true believers in bio are blamed! Not the STATE technocrats. ...

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Sadness 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh yes, I can see that. My point is that I know some organic dairy farmers, who have taken years to get where they are now, and that included not subjecting cows to the ordinary vet processes, companion planting, sourcing diverse heirloom seeds etc. The standard seeds won't really do, because they are designed to be marketed with the spray and fertilizer schedules. Just try 'going organic' for yourself: Any mainstream seed variety will be outcompeted by weeds and grow sickly and hungry. It takes at least a decade to rehabilitate the land TBH. In that time, people still need to eat. (These ideologues think that people can live on carrots from their own gardens BTW).

In Sri Lanka, the main crop is tea. Just endless hillsides of it.

Organic food is still a niche market, and cannot be suddenly be a national edict, for a population that was working for a daily wage to barely buy some rice or flour, by picking 15 kg of tea, every day, (or they won't get paid).

It's insanity.

Furthermore, agri-farmers need fertilizer. Which is to come from a few buffalo, and a population of elephants around Kandy. That's certainly not enough: the amounts of manure/compost large plantations need, is going to have to need some serious machinery, and land conversion to cattle farming, whose manure needs to be moved. Did I mention the hillsides? Think narrow tiers with footpaths a century old. So that will need some very dedicated machinery - or people. Oh, and organic farmers don't really like machinery that much, because fumes. So even there, is an ethical dilemma. What will happen, is that a new class of manure-moving slaves will be created, in a time when most people will try to move to the cities so that they can at least buy food, because the land will be taken.

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redtoe-skipper 2 points ago +2 / -0

True!

And yet .... I read some stuff on a permaculture website. A move to bio organic farming is very well possible. Hundreds of farmers and gardeners are very successful. That is why they want to prohibit heirloom seeds and what we call: volkstuin. That is usually a plot of public ground, where people can rent, for a small fee, a subplot, and create their own vegetable garden. Then there is the movement of creating city gardens.

The process is quite clear. It is knowledge that needs sharing before a transition can be made. So, the soil can be upgraded in year one while moving away from artificial fertilizer, while strengthening the soil life and obtain a better harvest than before.

There is something like: potato towers. And this can be combined with tomato. Yielding a six fold harvest than usually on the same square meter. in effect, anyone with a little patio, balcony, garden can do it.

Then we have sprouting. Yielding 9 months of food with an investment of 100 dollars. It is like Catherine Austin-Fitz says: they force us to build our own prison with our own money (see: declaration of independence. it contains the same kind of language). And the moment we move away from it, is a loss to the tyrants, but a huge win for us.

In a way, being a man of the land, also means to eat the fruit of it, and to give back to the same land. This way a physical but also a metaphysical relationship comes into existence.

A lot is done to bring this knowledge to ordinary people. See as an example: metaalkathedraal.nl. Note the location.

Farmer to consumer is especially locally and regionally done. And with local groups conscious about distribution, there is a lot we can achieve together. And fiat is not really an issue. Value for value exchanges are being rolled out.

The technical options are available. We only have to do it. This way we can beat two movement by the tyrants.

  1. To centralize food distribution (supermarket -> payment systems)
  2. To emaciate the farmers.

I take note of several regions in my country, where people have been prepping last year to get as many people as possible to subscribe to a new paradigm. Some programs concern itself with buying one cow or sheep, it can be done alone or with a group. The same goes for milk. Many farmers move to having a bio-organic shop, selling cheese of several kinds, dairy products and eggs.

In Westland large groups of growers (greenhouses) have got together with the aim to do just that. And are quite successful. In Rotterdam, thousands have joined groups doing just that, and also moving away from the usual payment sytems.

once you can organize knowledge, the rest will follow. And the beauty is, with the great reset plans to disrupt food supply, people will simply move from being pampered by the system they got used to, to a system where they change the paradigm. And it no longer is in its infancy. I would say, it has moved into adolescence, and maturing.

Reports like that of Sri Lanka, in my view, do not show that the bio-organic road is failing, but rather, government should get out of the way. And that is a movement that cannot be stopped. We have the technical infrastructure to have knowledge move at lightning speed.

Once this independence is gained by working hard on your own solutions, the rest will follow. And these farmer protests, like in Sri Lanka or Netherlands, Germany, Italy, bring this into the consciousness of ordinary people.

Laziness and a fools trust vs independence .....

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EuropeNeedsFixing 1 point ago +1 / -0

This applies to fossil fuel as well. It takes years/decades to transition into something else, without suffering consequences. The globalists are moving forward with all these issues by burning the bridges behind them.

This is going to cost millions of peoples lives. Guess that is the purpose... :(

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FractalizingIron 4 points ago +4 / -0

Sri Lankan President Gotabaya Rajapaksa promised in his 2019 election campaign to transition the country’s farmers to organic agriculture over a period of 10 years. Last April, Rajapaksa’s government made good on that promise, imposing a nationwide ban on the importation and use of synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and ordering the country’s 2 million farmers to go organic.

Facepalm. Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

Surely the way to proceed is to establish models and successful centerpoints, then expand them over time in order to achieve an overall transition, not shove untested operations down the throat of the entire population of farmers en masse.

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redtoe-skipper 3 points ago +3 / -0

Having handed its agricultural policy over to organic true believers, many of them involved in businesses that would stand to benefit from the fertilizer ban, the false economy of banning imported fertilizer hurt the Sri Lankan people dearly.

Interesting, isn't it? How to plan for failure ....Conclusion: ? The STATE ......

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COLNE68601 3 points ago +3 / -0

The soil was probably pretty crappy from years of traditional farming. Could take years to restore it.

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farmforfreedom 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sorry that some people suck at farming. Sounds like the government was the problem not forgoing chemical use. We call it a learning curve.

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numina22 2 points ago +2 / -0

Green farming? No good.