I hate to say it, but you can't treat these people as equals anymore.
I've tried reason and logic, nothing works.
It's time to put mocking and shame on the menu.
These people were raised like goats, waiting for acceptance. You have to use brute fucking force to break the spell.
I have applied anger and force and have had some good results. What's a good result? If they start blinking rapidly and don't know what to say after you bake them, walk away knowing you have at least temporarily made them think
Donny I like your style but it's just not the way I do it. I just kill them with kindness, make sure to be a do everything that nobody else does for each other - holding the door, smile (it may be the only mouth they see it might as well smile maybe they are on the verge of breaking out) all while refusing the mask. Be the person who someone who lacks the courage to unmask would see and take strength from. Why would I yell at someone I don't know, who has been mentally abused and beat down by their television to the point where they cover their own faces for no reason? I feel bad for them. They probably work some shit job for some butthead boss. Commuting a half hour or working some low-wage job. And now I'm going to yell at them as a person without a mask? Surely I won't let them have power over me, and I will politely and firmly refuse to wear a mask ever again, but I will never lose my cool. \Eventually these people will figure it out (right? That's the reason we are here because we believe that) so what the heck, might as well hold yourself to the highest standard.
TLDR; Represent the non-maskers / awake people the best way you can it's how you win hearts
I just saw three people eating lunch inside on a beautiful day (point being, they could have sat outside in the fresh air to eat). All three were wearing masks while eating. They would pull the masks down to shovel food in their mouths and then put them back up to chew.
This is a mental disease more than anything. I wanted to rage at them for being so stupid. I instead said nothing and smiled and carried on friendly conversation with others. No one else had masks on.
We all know the propaganda machine is going to go into overdrive for the midterms. We'll see this dumbassery more and more as we get closer to elections.
What these idiots are doing is spreading fear and propaganda by acting so scared.
We need to counter this with positive reinforcement of not masking. Living free. Smiling and laughing is a great way to do this. Make it clear that our side is way happier and truly free.
I've said before and others have also said that we are in WWIII. Rather than bullets and bombs, it's an information war. Propaganda vs Truth. We are all soldiers and we're all taking shots. We do this with our words and actions, not actual bullets. However, WWIII is just as deadly as a war with live rounds. People we love have died due to the propaganda. Hospitals have killed people due to the propaganda. People's health and ultimate demise has been the result of propaganda.
We must fight this war with words, actions, memes, and our own propaganda.
We should probably create a post where we generate words, phrases, memes, t shirt and hat ideas we can use to fight the upcoming battles.
As an example, in the future, if someone asks me to wear a mast or asks why I am not, I'm going to fire off pithy phrases.
Me: I'm not wearing a mask because I trust the science. Commie: The science says to wear masks. Me: I'm not talking about that science, when I say I trust the science I mean I trust the political science.
Me: I'm not wearing a mask because I have 100% immunity. Commie: People that are vaccinated can still get it. How can you have 100% immunity? Me: Well people that are vaccinated can still get it, but I'm not vaxxed, and I'm immune to the propaganda.
I'd love to hear more ideas and exchange ideas. I also think we should have a US Constitution study on our rights to say no to masks, especially in businesses that demand them.
Another idea I have is to take anyone (person or business) that demands I wear a mask to small claims court. The limit in my state is $10,000.
If someone tries to enforce masks on me I will ask the person for their full name and personal address. When they ask why I will say because I am taking them to court and I need to know who and where the sheriff should serve court documents to.
I think a case could be made for violating ADA laws. Forcing me to do something health related against my wishes could potentially be an ADA violation. I believe a business is fined $25,000 minimum for violating ADA laws.
Regardless, most people will be scared shitless when they realize you are dead serious about going to court.
In small claims, one can represent themselves and do not need to pay for an attorney. The other side will likely be too scared to go to court without an attorney and this will cost them thousands of dollars.
I bet people will STFU when it costs them real money and time to go to court and also have a permanent court record.
Any legal frens here that can offer advice on some basic laws that can be applied? I will definitely do this if/when they ramp things up again.
As an example, in the future, if someone asks me to wear a mask or asks why I am not, I'm going to fire off pithy phrases.
I recommend memorizing Fauci's original statement on masks from March 2020-
“When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people ‘feel’ a little better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.”
If they then argue the science says something different, you can counter with this- "I just quoted Anthony Fauci from March 2020. Are you suggesting he lied to the American public?"
They may counter with, "The science has changed. We now know more than we did then."
"You realize Fauci admitted he lied about masks to prevent the general public from causing a shortage of masks for health professionals, right? What makes you think he's telling the truth now?"
If they still resist and defend Fauci, you can say, "I don't believe you trust the science or Fauci either. If you did, you'd be wearing a double or even a triple mask. Fauci said, 'If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective.' In January 2021, MSNBC ran a segment highlighting Virginia Tech researchers who reportedly discovered a double mask was 75% more effective and a triple mask was 90% more effective at preventing the spread of Covid. If you truly believe in the science, what is your reason for non-compliance with those recommendations?"
I hate to say it, but you can't treat these people as equals anymore.
I've tried reason and logic, nothing works.
It's time to put mocking and shame on the menu.
These people were raised like goats, waiting for acceptance. You have to use brute fucking force to break the spell.
I have applied anger and force and have had some good results. What's a good result? If they start blinking rapidly and don't know what to say after you bake them, walk away knowing you have at least temporarily made them think
Should I say "let them be sheep" or 'let them eat sheep"?
Donny I like your style but it's just not the way I do it. I just kill them with kindness, make sure to be a do everything that nobody else does for each other - holding the door, smile (it may be the only mouth they see it might as well smile maybe they are on the verge of breaking out) all while refusing the mask. Be the person who someone who lacks the courage to unmask would see and take strength from. Why would I yell at someone I don't know, who has been mentally abused and beat down by their television to the point where they cover their own faces for no reason? I feel bad for them. They probably work some shit job for some butthead boss. Commuting a half hour or working some low-wage job. And now I'm going to yell at them as a person without a mask? Surely I won't let them have power over me, and I will politely and firmly refuse to wear a mask ever again, but I will never lose my cool. \Eventually these people will figure it out (right? That's the reason we are here because we believe that) so what the heck, might as well hold yourself to the highest standard.
TLDR; Represent the non-maskers / awake people the best way you can it's how you win hearts
I agree with you u/FiatLux 👈🏻
I also share the same frustration as u/Donny_Fiasco 👈🏻
I just saw three people eating lunch inside on a beautiful day (point being, they could have sat outside in the fresh air to eat). All three were wearing masks while eating. They would pull the masks down to shovel food in their mouths and then put them back up to chew.
This is a mental disease more than anything. I wanted to rage at them for being so stupid. I instead said nothing and smiled and carried on friendly conversation with others. No one else had masks on.
We all know the propaganda machine is going to go into overdrive for the midterms. We'll see this dumbassery more and more as we get closer to elections.
What these idiots are doing is spreading fear and propaganda by acting so scared.
We need to counter this with positive reinforcement of not masking. Living free. Smiling and laughing is a great way to do this. Make it clear that our side is way happier and truly free.
I've said before and others have also said that we are in WWIII. Rather than bullets and bombs, it's an information war. Propaganda vs Truth. We are all soldiers and we're all taking shots. We do this with our words and actions, not actual bullets. However, WWIII is just as deadly as a war with live rounds. People we love have died due to the propaganda. Hospitals have killed people due to the propaganda. People's health and ultimate demise has been the result of propaganda.
We must fight this war with words, actions, memes, and our own propaganda.
We should probably create a post where we generate words, phrases, memes, t shirt and hat ideas we can use to fight the upcoming battles.
As an example, in the future, if someone asks me to wear a mast or asks why I am not, I'm going to fire off pithy phrases.
I'd love to hear more ideas and exchange ideas. I also think we should have a US Constitution study on our rights to say no to masks, especially in businesses that demand them.
Another idea I have is to take anyone (person or business) that demands I wear a mask to small claims court. The limit in my state is $10,000.
If someone tries to enforce masks on me I will ask the person for their full name and personal address. When they ask why I will say because I am taking them to court and I need to know who and where the sheriff should serve court documents to.
I think a case could be made for violating ADA laws. Forcing me to do something health related against my wishes could potentially be an ADA violation. I believe a business is fined $25,000 minimum for violating ADA laws.
Regardless, most people will be scared shitless when they realize you are dead serious about going to court.
In small claims, one can represent themselves and do not need to pay for an attorney. The other side will likely be too scared to go to court without an attorney and this will cost them thousands of dollars.
I bet people will STFU when it costs them real money and time to go to court and also have a permanent court record.
Any legal frens here that can offer advice on some basic laws that can be applied? I will definitely do this if/when they ramp things up again.
I recommend memorizing Fauci's original statement on masks from March 2020-
“When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people ‘feel’ a little better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask.”
If they then argue the science says something different, you can counter with this- "I just quoted Anthony Fauci from March 2020. Are you suggesting he lied to the American public?"
They may counter with, "The science has changed. We now know more than we did then."
"You realize Fauci admitted he lied about masks to prevent the general public from causing a shortage of masks for health professionals, right? What makes you think he's telling the truth now?"
If they still resist and defend Fauci, you can say, "I don't believe you trust the science or Fauci either. If you did, you'd be wearing a double or even a triple mask. Fauci said, 'If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective.' In January 2021, MSNBC ran a segment highlighting Virginia Tech researchers who reportedly discovered a double mask was 75% more effective and a triple mask was 90% more effective at preventing the spread of Covid. If you truly believe in the science, what is your reason for non-compliance with those recommendations?"