Is the normal blood pressure really supposed to be 120/80 or is that a lie? And for those with slightly high bp, what is the best medicine for it? My doc put me on Lisinopril, but I've been trying to take my bp every day to see what my numbers are, and if they are under 120/80 or even slightly above, I skip my med that day. Also what about cholesterol levels?
I don't trust my doctor is looking into the helping us or just following what they tell her (the people who say they will take their license away if they don't follow rules). I thought she was a good doctor, but when all the covid crap started, I asked her about vitamins to take and also about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. She said that none of that stuff will help that the best treatment was the vaxx. She lost me after that, haven't been back to doc since. Stopped taking my gabapentin for my back (pinched nerves) and stopped taking my cholesterol medicine (Pravastatin).
There was a fantastic thread on this forum several months ago about a lot of this sort of stuff. From it, I learned about a book called "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Dr. Malcom Kendrick. I've been reading it a little by little for the past several months. Not dry reading at all, since his British sense of humor is rather charming. There is no such thing as "high LDL," but having low LDL is very dangerous and could be a sign of disease. He shows how as Japan has increased its cholesterol intake over the past several decades, the rate of heart disease has decreased. He dispels that benefits of HDL vs LDL is nonsense, shows how LDL actually protects one's body, and shows how statins (like you were taking) do not decrease one's chance of death at all, but actually raises it by 1%. It's all a sham.
I've learned that Hawthorn berry helps high blood pressure. Actually, if I was told that blood pressure is as much of a sham as cholesterol, I wouldn't doubt it. My doctor has been trying to get me on statins and I won't do it. Actually, I was taking red yeast rice as a natural statin. Not because I believe that LDL is bad, but I thought that if I could reduce it a bit, they'd leave me alone about it. Well, over the past couple of months, I've developed some nerve pain in my arms and I wonder if taking red yeast rice supplements have affected this.
Another book I'd recommend is " Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients" by Ray
Moynihan. I bought this book and read the first two chapters before starting the book by Kendrick. Interestingly, the book doesn't seem to reference Rockefeller, the one really responsible for mucking up Western Medicine over a century ago.
Look for naturopath or integrative medicine doctor instead of a conventional doctor who only wants to prescribe pharmaceuticals. My husband's high blood pressure lowered from changing diet, no longer eating crap, eating keto and intermittent fasting. He lost weight and got off blood pressure medications.
Here's a good book on cholesterol: "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will."
Statins are horrible. We got my husband off statins when I found out about all the detrimental side effects.
Sorry it took so long to reply, I was working a string of night shifts. In my opinion, the lower your blood pressure the better. However if it is consistently in the 140’s over 80’s without medicines I don’t think you necessarily need to be on any anti hypertensive medication. It’s definitely better to not be on any prescribed medications if possible because they have many side effects and many of the studies have been massaged or frauded. To lower the bp and cholesterol I would do the Mediterranean diet/Pioppi diet. Also read or watch videos on Pioppi Italy and how they live longer in general. Statin research has been massaged. If you are low risk for heart disease statins will most likely harm you rather than help you. Now with regards to the Covid vaccine, I did not get it. I work with 30 other ER physicians and 25 got the vaccine and 5 did not. Not one of those 25 got the booster and some of them got Covid after getting the vaccine. As long as you are under 50 with no comorbidities you should survive without taking anything. You could take ivermectin, hcq, and steroids as soon as you get sick and that would help decrease the symptoms and duration/severity of symptoms. I hope this helps and if you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask!
Well I don’t think if you have BP at 139/89 means you are overweight, my husband has high BP and he is very fit for a 59 yr old, not at all overweight/fat, he has muscle (big upper body), hardly any fat on him. He works out & does Jiu jitsu. He’s had high BP pretty much all his adult life. I have lower BP than he does and I am overweight, though in the last year I have lost some weight, but it’s hard when I have health issues that hamper exercising. I do some but it’s not easy. It’s rather frustrating to be honest, not to be able to do things. Years ago my BP use to be so low the nurses always had a hard time getting my BP. The BP machines hardly worked on me, so they had to do it manually and sometimes even then they had a hard time. I had good BP all through my pregnancies also, drove my husband crazy, lol. I didn’t work out or anything, just always going/doing things.
139/89 is not necessarily an issue, especially since, in your husband's case, it's something that has stayed consistent.
Some people naturally have a higher blood pressure, just as you had a naturally lower blood pressure for much of your life.
And I didn't make it clear in my original reply, but I believe those blood pressure medications are often misprescribed and are to be avoided if at all possible, especially if you're in the 120/80 to 139/89 range.
As far as losing weight, exercise is not required to lose it. Intermittent fasting is definitely an option I can vouch for. I've already lost 6 inches around my waist that have crept up on me since getting married over a decade ago.
Here's a video on intermittent fasting by Dr. Sten Ekberg. He does a very good job of explaining the science behind it on this and many other videos-
Is the normal blood pressure really supposed to be 120/80 or is that a lie? And for those with slightly high bp, what is the best medicine for it? My doc put me on Lisinopril, but I've been trying to take my bp every day to see what my numbers are, and if they are under 120/80 or even slightly above, I skip my med that day. Also what about cholesterol levels?
I don't trust my doctor is looking into the helping us or just following what they tell her (the people who say they will take their license away if they don't follow rules). I thought she was a good doctor, but when all the covid crap started, I asked her about vitamins to take and also about ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. She said that none of that stuff will help that the best treatment was the vaxx. She lost me after that, haven't been back to doc since. Stopped taking my gabapentin for my back (pinched nerves) and stopped taking my cholesterol medicine (Pravastatin).
There was a fantastic thread on this forum several months ago about a lot of this sort of stuff. From it, I learned about a book called "The Great Cholesterol Con" by Dr. Malcom Kendrick. I've been reading it a little by little for the past several months. Not dry reading at all, since his British sense of humor is rather charming. There is no such thing as "high LDL," but having low LDL is very dangerous and could be a sign of disease. He shows how as Japan has increased its cholesterol intake over the past several decades, the rate of heart disease has decreased. He dispels that benefits of HDL vs LDL is nonsense, shows how LDL actually protects one's body, and shows how statins (like you were taking) do not decrease one's chance of death at all, but actually raises it by 1%. It's all a sham.
I've learned that Hawthorn berry helps high blood pressure. Actually, if I was told that blood pressure is as much of a sham as cholesterol, I wouldn't doubt it. My doctor has been trying to get me on statins and I won't do it. Actually, I was taking red yeast rice as a natural statin. Not because I believe that LDL is bad, but I thought that if I could reduce it a bit, they'd leave me alone about it. Well, over the past couple of months, I've developed some nerve pain in my arms and I wonder if taking red yeast rice supplements have affected this.
Another book I'd recommend is " Selling Sickness: How the World's Biggest Pharmaceutical Companies Are Turning Us All Into Patients" by Ray Moynihan. I bought this book and read the first two chapters before starting the book by Kendrick. Interestingly, the book doesn't seem to reference Rockefeller, the one really responsible for mucking up Western Medicine over a century ago.
Look for naturopath or integrative medicine doctor instead of a conventional doctor who only wants to prescribe pharmaceuticals. My husband's high blood pressure lowered from changing diet, no longer eating crap, eating keto and intermittent fasting. He lost weight and got off blood pressure medications.
Here's a good book on cholesterol: "The Great Cholesterol Myth, Revised and Expanded: Why Lowering Your Cholesterol Won't Prevent Heart Disease--and the Statin-Free Plan that Will."
Statins are horrible. We got my husband off statins when I found out about all the detrimental side effects.
Find a functional medicine doctor
You need to exercise and fix your diet too
Sorry it took so long to reply, I was working a string of night shifts. In my opinion, the lower your blood pressure the better. However if it is consistently in the 140’s over 80’s without medicines I don’t think you necessarily need to be on any anti hypertensive medication. It’s definitely better to not be on any prescribed medications if possible because they have many side effects and many of the studies have been massaged or frauded. To lower the bp and cholesterol I would do the Mediterranean diet/Pioppi diet. Also read or watch videos on Pioppi Italy and how they live longer in general. Statin research has been massaged. If you are low risk for heart disease statins will most likely harm you rather than help you. Now with regards to the Covid vaccine, I did not get it. I work with 30 other ER physicians and 25 got the vaccine and 5 did not. Not one of those 25 got the booster and some of them got Covid after getting the vaccine. As long as you are under 50 with no comorbidities you should survive without taking anything. You could take ivermectin, hcq, and steroids as soon as you get sick and that would help decrease the symptoms and duration/severity of symptoms. I hope this helps and if you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask!
They taught us 120/80 was baseline normal in Physical Education class when I was in high school in the 1990s.
I'm pretty sure they try to tell people that's Pre-Hypertension now.
If your blood pressure is 139/89, they call that High Normal.
In either case, they recommend blood pressure medication.
If yours is 139/89, you're probably overweight and need to lose some weight and exercise and it will correct itself pretty quickly, imho.
Well I don’t think if you have BP at 139/89 means you are overweight, my husband has high BP and he is very fit for a 59 yr old, not at all overweight/fat, he has muscle (big upper body), hardly any fat on him. He works out & does Jiu jitsu. He’s had high BP pretty much all his adult life. I have lower BP than he does and I am overweight, though in the last year I have lost some weight, but it’s hard when I have health issues that hamper exercising. I do some but it’s not easy. It’s rather frustrating to be honest, not to be able to do things. Years ago my BP use to be so low the nurses always had a hard time getting my BP. The BP machines hardly worked on me, so they had to do it manually and sometimes even then they had a hard time. I had good BP all through my pregnancies also, drove my husband crazy, lol. I didn’t work out or anything, just always going/doing things.
You're right. It doesn't necessarily mean that.
I used the word "probably" for that very reason.
139/89 is not necessarily an issue, especially since, in your husband's case, it's something that has stayed consistent.
Some people naturally have a higher blood pressure, just as you had a naturally lower blood pressure for much of your life.
And I didn't make it clear in my original reply, but I believe those blood pressure medications are often misprescribed and are to be avoided if at all possible, especially if you're in the 120/80 to 139/89 range.
As far as losing weight, exercise is not required to lose it. Intermittent fasting is definitely an option I can vouch for. I've already lost 6 inches around my waist that have crept up on me since getting married over a decade ago.
Here's a video on intermittent fasting by Dr. Sten Ekberg. He does a very good job of explaining the science behind it on this and many other videos-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZhkFOCeZMQ