Edit: I'm not saying the vaccine is the mark of the beast, I'm saying that if they blindly took a deadly poison they could just as easily of taken the mark of the beast.
What's been playing on my mind is the mark of the beast that will send you to everlasting torment Rev 14:9-11
What COVID proved was that the vast majority of people will condemn themselves to a tormentous eternity for a free donut.
They won't need to be violently coerced into taking it but simply told that having all your banking details on your hand or head is a great convenience.
If they die from the effects of the vaccine then they can't be stupid enough to condemn themselves in the tribulation. Their stupidity is mind-blowing to me.
If we are coming into the tribulation there might be a silver lining that the mindless sheep have poisoned themselves to death. I pray about this each day that God has a plan to lead people to Jesus.
Also thank God that heaven is a perfect theocratic monarchy with God, Jesus and the Saints. I couldn't imagine anything worse than all these room temperature IQ's ruling over us by democracy.
I have noone else to talk to about this, either they trust the Gov. Or don't believe God's word. Hopefully someone can give some consolation to this fear I have.
Romans 1:28 "And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;".
Matthew 7:13 "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
I have pondered this as well. It is so grievous to think that the majority are on the wrong path. It ways heavy on me every day. Many have made the government their god.
It troubles me a lot also, they have completely closed their minds to God's word but believe every word that comes from the mouth of television.
I see what you're saying that it has to be an explicit rejection of God and worship of the antichrist.
I hope God makes it clear for everyone the consequences of the action.
My mum is a very sweet and kind lady, if she makes a command to Alexa for something and it's speaking she won't interrupt it, if put in a life or death situation she will go along with whatever it is to keep the peace. Her agreeableness is off the charts.
I believe science is the one world religion that got weaponized by Satan, therefore it is highly likely, IMO, that the jab is the MOTB. The devil's got one chance to do this. If they introduce another microchip, ask yourself, will the majority of the people fall for it again? There was only one opportunity, and that was the jab.
From what I have heard that makes the most sense to me, Satan always has an antichrist ready to go in every generation. He tries to push for the end times because that’s when he gets to reign on earth. God controls the timeline though so the devil will never be able to hurry it along, but he never stops trying. We tend to think of things very short term due to our lifespan and perception of time in the scale of an eternal war. This may have been the devils one shot at the mark in this generation. I think the jab was the precursor to the actual mark, but most likely medical related. It’s not the devils time yet though so God woke people up, and the setup to usher in the mark failed to take a big enough hold. The devil loses and his plans backfire as always. My two cents.
Exactly what I said to brother in law ( baptist pastor). He said the mainstream church lie "it's a precursor". I've yet to find anyone show me in scripture where the warm up to the mark is written.
This man of God told us exactly how Satan would do it almost ten years ago. https://youtu.be/gzTk2cVbHyY
The precursor lie is regurgitated by church leaders because they don't want to lose jabbed members and/or lose their 501(c)(3) status, ultimately everything comes down to money. Money is the root of all evils.
Accepting mrna technology into your body is explicitly religious as it removes God's name from your dna
https://www.jamesjpn.net/basic-bible/divine-image-destroyed-by-christine-beadsworth/
'Sin' in Hebrew means 'allow one to be distracted'. At every moment we choose to pay attention or allow ourselves to be distracted.
You're taking my words out of context to prove your point. If you disagree with the writer's hypothesis about Yahweh's name on our dna then say that. Instead you go on a trip about 7 year olds and little old ladies.
Deuteronomy 5:9
Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
The sins of the parents fall upon the children. It appears the above and other similar passages also validate the idea of generational curses.
With that being said, until they're beheading those who refuse the jabs, it doesn't qualify as the Mark of the Beast and indeed appears to be a test run.
I personally believe something similar to the proposed vaccine passports will be the control mechanism for enforcement of the eventual Mark.
Many humans are easily brainwashed. I know some very intelligent and educated people who fell for the pandemic deception. They are not street smart, that's for sure.
You are right, though. There are many stupid people. It is mind blowing. I know some people who wanted to know my thoughts about the pandemic. I told them and they ran out and got the jab.
I dont think everyone who got the vaccine condemned themselves to hell. Not all vaccines changed your DNA some vaccines only had saline in them which should not condemn anyone. Those that got the actual MRNA may have though its hard to say. It is not up to us who goes to hell or not. Maybe God sees people were coerced. Dont know if that matters or not. For sure the children that got the vaccine due to their parents stupidity are not condemned to hell.
I think u/Zi0ns_walls is saying that anyone who is willing to poison themselves for a free donut would also be stupid enough to take the mark of the beast for equally inane reasons. I agree. They would be better off dead from vax injuries before the mark is made an option. The believers at least would be better off, anyway. The non believers were on their way to hell, anyway.
Spot on, although I would say the unbelievers will be judged by Christ beofre the decision of where they will go.
I'm not talking about the vaccine sending them to hell, I'm talking about the mark of the beast.
Your post is well said and thought out, especially the part of people condemn themselves to hell and it's needless because God does love them, it's just whether they can accept that love.
What I'm talking about in this thread is not that the vaccine is the mark of the beast but that them blindly taking the vaccine can easily be done again with the mark of the beast.
They took deadly poison because TV told them to, what about when the TV tells them to take the mark of the beast? How many will?
Imagine if they skipped the vaccine and went straight to the mark, how many would of been condemned and punished by God because of their obedience and ignorance?
That's what I'm thinking, I hope so too.
Think about where we're at. There's a worldwide genocide taking place. All the world leaders are of one mind. The universal religion is science. All these people are following it and trusting it. Believers are to follow Christ and trust Him.
So why would they get a fast pass out of this tribulation? Seems rather convenient that the non believers and lukewarm believers get to escape all of this.
Revelation says all nations are deceived by the pharmakeia by way of the merchants. It also says all those who get the mark, name or number plus those who worship the beast and His image will be destroyed.
Jesus said it would be as in the days of Noah. All flesh was corrupt in those days. The third temple is the temple built without hands. It's you and I the believer. The Father's presence was at the first one and the Son's was in the second. Paul says we are the temple for the Holy Spirit. Jesus said the unforgivable sin is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.
So is Jesus a liar? Cuz revelation tells me there's a lot of people not forgiven for their sin of taking the mark,name or number also those who worship the beast and his image. Absolutely He's not a liar cuz they are one in the same. When you defile the Holy Spirit's temple by way of altering of the blood, remember the life is in the blood, then you are no longer created in the Father's image.
There's so much more the Holy spirit has shown me. Suffice it to say this is the abomination that makes desolate. People have chosen who to follow and serve. His people are perishing and will continue to perish from lack of knowledge. This is it, don't get it twisted. These events that are happening are not just some evil people trying to take over the world. This is God's judgement and His wrath is soon to follow.
Come out of her my people lest you be partakers of her plagues and sins, He says. Choose this day whom you will serve. For the time draweth nigh.
I know most don't agree with me. The good thing is you can find out for yourself. Or you can keep waiting on man's great awakening. I tell you a truth judgement is here and very few are going to have eyes to see and ears to hear what the Spirit says in these last days. I pray you find the way and not be deceived by man. Blessings to you and yours.
Thank you for your reply like you I put my trust in the Lord completely.
God does not want anyone to perish but to be saved by Jesus' blood. I hope they do get out of the tribulation by being saved.
If they reject God it's out of my hands and Christ will judge their souls and make his decision.
I don't like the sin of this world and what the sinful people are causing the world to become. God won't just give them a free pass into heaven without their repentance.
Our mission is to offer them the gospel if they reject kick the dust off our feet and move along.
It is like the days of Noah and I agree that we are in the birth pangs and it will increasingly get worse as time goes by.
Glory to God
Check this 2 minute video out from 2012. Prophetic or a lucky guess? https://youtu.be/gzTk2cVbHyY
Sorry for my late reply I fell asleep, he called the COVID nonsense way back then. There were a lot of old truthers that were studying the depopulation agenda like this chap in 2009
https://youtu.be/hS_5KNa-47Y
Containing sm-102/luciferase?
https://sage.gab.com/channel/redvoicemedia/view/pfizer-whistleblower-claims-vaccines-glow-contains-616a1661b5897acb519eb5e9
There was also a leak posted here about 'sovereign' bank accounts, and how they were exempt from the vaccine requirements, cash limits, carbon score limits etc that the regular proles apparently have listed against their accounts.
https://web.archive.org/web/20220725193441/https://oculumlabs.com/the-sovereign-accounts-of-the-rich-and-powerful-exposed/
Interestingly, oculumlabs seems to be down/unreachable at the moment, it was working at the time of the story.
So to sum up, a vaccine req for banking + an enzyme named after lucifer thats present in the vaccines is a pretty close 'mark of the beast' type analogue.
The oculumlabs link is a frightening read. Thanks for the link.
God loves stupid people too...
I don't think they are condemning themselves for a free donut. They are condemning themselves because they got fooled to think this poison would protect them. Your donut comment made me think of Esau, who exchanged his birthright for a bowl of stew.
"For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." - 1 Thessalonians 5:3
If you lose one sheep, do you not leave the 99 in the pasture and go into the woods to bring the other home?
Where we go one, we go all.
Separation is illusionary. We are all the same. Until we come together and Unite, we will always be easy to divide.
I don't believe for a minute that those who took the vax are eternally condemned, some will just need another incarnation to realize the truth, and the others like us are paving the way of that truth.
If you believe in reincarnation, you don't have any reason to believe in Revelation, I suppose.
The 2 aren't mutually exclusive.
What if Jesus came to set us free from more than just the current situation, but also to "reveal" the hidden truths, one of which may be that you have possibly been here more than once.
Revelation is a great revealing as well as judgement. I believe in Jesus, but I also believe in reincarnation. I feel that things have been misunderstood in a few ways regarding the Bible and our history.
Are you suggesting God doesn't have the ability to preserve His Word from being corrupted by man?
The Bible is very clear on this matter. I will provide more than two witnesses proving reincarnation is not part of the Word of God.
Job 14:10-12
10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
Man dies once and is not risen until the heavens be no more.
Ecclesiastes 12:7
7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.
It's the breath of God that gives us our life, and once we die, the spirit goes back to Him. We will not be awakened again until the last day.
Hebrews 9:27-28
27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
It's pretty clear death is a one time event from this verse.
John 5:28-29
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.
If reincarnation is a thing, what's the point of believing in the power of the resurrection?
You say you believe in Jesus, but it's not the Jesus found in the Bible. Again, if you believe the Bible was corrupted by man, that's your choice and would explain your statements.
Job 14:10-12
10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?
11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:
12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
Man dies once and is not risen until the heavens be no more.
^ physical man dies the physical death, while your spirit is immortal. This soul is God given, and does not die, hence the "and where is he?" This passage is describing the mortal nature of man and being born in sin, bound by natural cycles of death and (re) birth.
To quote the same book but earlier verses
Verses 7-9 7 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
^hmmmmm. Like a new bud on an old tree eh? Seasons? Let's look past your cherry picking a little more:
Verses 13-15 13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
How can you answer the call of the lords work if you're dead? You cannot.
I will try to address each point as I get time today. :)
In response to Job 14:10-12, you wrote the following-
"physical man dies the physical death, while your spirit is immortal. This soul is God given, and does not die, hence the "and where is he?" This passage is describing the mortal nature of man and being born in sin, bound by natural cycles of death and (re) birth."
Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about rebirth. It says our spirit comes from God and it returns to God upon our deaths.
You then claimed I was cherrypicking Job because I didn't quote the entire chapter and referenced verses 7-9.
Job 14:7-9
7 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.
8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;
9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.
So there is hope that a tree can regrow if it's cut down. In contrast, you didn't quote the correct verse this was a comparison to.
Job 14:1-2
1 Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble.
2 He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.
Unlike the tree, once the man is cut down, he's dead and there's no chance of regrowth. And I already quoted verses 10-12 which establish men are asleep once the spirit of God leaves them AKA they give up the ghost until the heavens are destroyed at the second coming.
You then proceeded to quote verses 13-15.
Job 14:13-15
13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.
You then asked, "How can you answer the call of the lords work if you're dead? You cannot."
What is the change Job is referring to?
The apostle Paul describes what will happen after the heavens are destroyed at the second coming of Christ.
When reading the following verses, keep in mind "sleep" equals "death" and is a temporary state of affairs.
1 Corinthians 15:50-57
50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
56 The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
So in verse 51, this means some of those who are alive at the second coming of Christ will never die but will be immediately changed. Their physical bodies will be transformed into heavenly bodies.
And to answer your question ""How can you answer the call of the lords work if you're dead?"
1 Thessalonians 4:16
For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
It's the voice of the Messiah which will wake all dead men up from their earthly slumber, at least those who are part of the first resurrection.
After 1000 years, the rest of the dead will rise from the grave and judgement day will occur.
What about Lazarus.
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Is he not a man, and if he is not, what is he? Did he not die, to be risen, and then presumably die again?
Christ performed a resurrection, but by definition Lazarus RE-INCARNATED or re entered the world of carnal sin.
To be born again is to what? Re incarnate.
Jesus spoke in parables. Things have double or even triple meanings.
What about Lazurus?
He did not emerge from the womb as a baby a second time in an entirely new body, so by definition, he was not reincarnated.
You didn't answer any of my questions for what reason exactly?
Well your posturing was that a man dies once, and only once.
Lazarus disproves that idea, reanimated, reincarnated, revived, re whatever you want to call it.
He was so dead the stench of death was unbearable, even by Mary Magdalene's words, "but lord, he stinketh"
Either the passages you quote about man dying once are wrong, or there is a mistranslation or misunderstanding, ie. Deeper, hidden meanings.
The word of God may be Infallable, but are you reading the biblical texts in their original format, language, and then translating it over to English while maintaining the many meanings of each word?
The word may be perfect, but translations placed before you by other corrupt men, are far from perfect.
I'll revisit your earlier post and address the other points as I can, if it would deepen the debate for further analysis.
In other words, the text supports reincarnation and it's my misunderstanding that's the issue?
Good talk.
And as far as your statement about parables, are we just going to ignore the fact the authors of the New Testament proceed to explain the meaning of said parables after the fact?
1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
Listen to the prophets. Our God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. This is one paragraph out of several prophecies by Julie Green.
I, the Lord, this day tell My children this year of 2022 is a year for you. Everything that has been done to you through your adversaries, I will restore. Concerning your health, your peace, your families, your finances, your jobs and property, all restoration belongs with Me. I am restoring and reversing all damages.
jgminternational.org
Julie Green sounds like a cult. Be careful.
People like that seem like soothsayers to me.
Thank you for your concern. I have been following her for almost a year now and I find her to be accurate in her prophecies.
If you'd like to check her out for yourself, she is on Rumble and Truth Social. Julie Green Ministries. Or her website JGMInternational.org where her prophecies are readable.
God bless you!
Well, as a non believer, i know it wont apply to me. While i do hope that for the rest of yall, i doubt this human larping as the voice of god is telling you the truth. Feels very Joes Osteenish.