Ok Doctors.... you have the power of numbers behind you. Just quit practicing medicine until you can do it ethically and professionally. Do not be silenced by bureaucrats and politicians who do not have the well being of your patients in mind. Or just say no to tyranny and deliberate harm to those who are in your care. These shots and boosters are killing people. This rule is unethical and dangerous. First, do no harm.......
And who gets to decide what’s “misinformation”? It seams that advocating IVM or HCQ early on was “misinformation” which has since turned out to be effective. Claiming the vaccines aren’t effective to prevent contracting or spreading the rona was “misinformation” but now the CDC is saying so. And if a Dr looses his/her medical license for “spreading misinformation” that later turns out to be true, does that Dr get his/her medical license and careers back with back pay and punitive damages?
So doctors don't have First Amendment rights in California then? What a commie shithole! I know there's a lot of good people in CA, but the dumbasses seem to be winning the fight over there.
If I were a doctor in CA I'd be looking for a job in another state right now.
They are losing... that's why they want to pass this bill. They already tried to take the licenses of honest doctors, but those same doctors fought back and won in court. Hence the new law, which will also be struck down, if it passes.
I hope you're right. I know there have been some crazy state legislation that has been shot down recently, but some of this crap is still getting thru.
I think it would be poetic justice if doctors just started packing up and leaving the state. It would be awesome if these fools had to admit they had screwed up and beg doctors to come back to California.
Trying to strike a balance between free speech and public health, California’s Legislature on Monday approved a bill that would allow regulators to punish doctors for spreading false information about Covid-19 vaccinations and treatments.
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The legislation, if signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, would make the state the first to try to legislate a remedy to a problem that the American Medical Association, among other medical groups and experts, says has worsened the impact of the pandemic, resulting in thousands of unnecessary hospitalizations and deaths.
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The law would designate spreading false or misleading medical information to patients as “unprofessional conduct,” subject to punishment by the agency that licenses doctors, the Medical Board of California. That could include suspending or revoking a doctor’s license to practice medicine in the state.
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While the legislation has raised concerns over freedom of speech, the bill’s sponsors said the extensive harm caused by false information required holding incompetent or ill-intentioned doctors accountable.
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“In order for a patient to give informed consent, they have to be well informed,” said State Senator Richard Pan, a Democrat from Sacramento and a co-author of the bill. A pediatrician himself and a prominent proponent of stronger vaccination requirements, he said the law was intended to address “the most egregious cases” of deliberately misleading patients.
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While other nations have criminalized the spread of vaccine misinformation — and have higher vaccination rates — the response by states and the U.S. government has largely been limited to combating misconceptions with accurate information, said Michelle M. Mello, a professor of law and health policy at Stanford University.
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She noted that even laws that cited a “compelling interest,” like public health and safety, to police disinformation ran the risk of having a chilling effect, a First Amendment standard for many courts.
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“Initiatives like this will be challenged in court and will be hard to sustain,” she said in an interview. “That doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea.”
Attorney Tom Renz talks about public health vs individual rights as they pertain to the jab (with reference to cigarette bans vs warning labels and C. Everett Coup's defense of individual rights and responsibility and the need for warnings rather than public-health-driven calls for bans that trample on individual rights and personal choice) (from beginning until approximately 10 minute mark):
IMHO, Doctors should also have individual choice and responsibility as to how they treat their patients rather than some legislative body telling them what to do and what not to do.
California is going to get a lesson in the "law of unintended consequences."
Headlines in a few years.... California health officials note acute shortage of doctors.
Ok Doctors.... you have the power of numbers behind you. Just quit practicing medicine until you can do it ethically and professionally. Do not be silenced by bureaucrats and politicians who do not have the well being of your patients in mind. Or just say no to tyranny and deliberate harm to those who are in your care. These shots and boosters are killing people. This rule is unethical and dangerous. First, do no harm.......
And who gets to decide what’s “misinformation”? It seams that advocating IVM or HCQ early on was “misinformation” which has since turned out to be effective. Claiming the vaccines aren’t effective to prevent contracting or spreading the rona was “misinformation” but now the CDC is saying so. And if a Dr looses his/her medical license for “spreading misinformation” that later turns out to be true, does that Dr get his/her medical license and careers back with back pay and punitive damages?
So doctors don't have First Amendment rights in California then? What a commie shithole! I know there's a lot of good people in CA, but the dumbasses seem to be winning the fight over there.
If I were a doctor in CA I'd be looking for a job in another state right now.
They are losing... that's why they want to pass this bill. They already tried to take the licenses of honest doctors, but those same doctors fought back and won in court. Hence the new law, which will also be struck down, if it passes.
I hope you're right. I know there have been some crazy state legislation that has been shot down recently, but some of this crap is still getting thru.
I think it would be poetic justice if doctors just started packing up and leaving the state. It would be awesome if these fools had to admit they had screwed up and beg doctors to come back to California.
Like nurses, they would import them from the Philippines or Mexico or something.
There are many ways for a state to fix the system of healthcare. But that's not what they are interested in doing.
Well... that includes nearly ALL of the doctors in California then.
Trying to strike a balance between free speech and public health, California’s Legislature on Monday approved a bill that would allow regulators to punish doctors for spreading false information about Covid-19 vaccinations and treatments.
—-
The legislation, if signed by Gov. Gavin Newsom, would make the state the first to try to legislate a remedy to a problem that the American Medical Association, among other medical groups and experts, says has worsened the impact of the pandemic, resulting in thousands of unnecessary hospitalizations and deaths.
—-
The law would designate spreading false or misleading medical information to patients as “unprofessional conduct,” subject to punishment by the agency that licenses doctors, the Medical Board of California. That could include suspending or revoking a doctor’s license to practice medicine in the state.
—-
While the legislation has raised concerns over freedom of speech, the bill’s sponsors said the extensive harm caused by false information required holding incompetent or ill-intentioned doctors accountable.
—-
“In order for a patient to give informed consent, they have to be well informed,” said State Senator Richard Pan, a Democrat from Sacramento and a co-author of the bill. A pediatrician himself and a prominent proponent of stronger vaccination requirements, he said the law was intended to address “the most egregious cases” of deliberately misleading patients.
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While other nations have criminalized the spread of vaccine misinformation — and have higher vaccination rates — the response by states and the U.S. government has largely been limited to combating misconceptions with accurate information, said Michelle M. Mello, a professor of law and health policy at Stanford University.
—-
She noted that even laws that cited a “compelling interest,” like public health and safety, to police disinformation ran the risk of having a chilling effect, a First Amendment standard for many courts.
—-
“Initiatives like this will be challenged in court and will be hard to sustain,” she said in an interview. “That doesn’t mean it’s not a good idea.”
Attorney Tom Renz talks about public health vs individual rights as they pertain to the jab (with reference to cigarette bans vs warning labels and C. Everett Coup's defense of individual rights and responsibility and the need for warnings rather than public-health-driven calls for bans that trample on individual rights and personal choice) (from beginning until approximately 10 minute mark):
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cua8MI9LUZk&feature=youtu.be
IMHO, Doctors should also have individual choice and responsibility as to how they treat their patients rather than some legislative body telling them what to do and what not to do.
Well, there go all the doctors from the state of CA. They'll find the climate to their liking in other states.