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Looks like the push for electric vehicles is backfiring in California! (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 3 years ago by MarleyGoat 3 years ago by MarleyGoat +354 / -0
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– huhWHAThuh 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I have said this since day one.

Where the hell do they plan to get the electricity to power 100 million new vehicles every day?

It would probably require doubling the number of power plants required to keep the grid up.

Coal or nuclear? You are doubling the amount of dangerous pollution either way!

And on top of that the law of thermodynamics tells us that a conversion of energy types results in a loss of energy.

The only damn thing electric cars can result in is more pollution than internal combustion engines.

What great ideas will these Einsteins come up with next.

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– DaesDaemar 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

IMO it only makes sense if you have solar + powerwall in a sunny area for a commuter car. You still need gas to not take forever on a trip.

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– WildRanter 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Then when your roof or your batteries go nuts you get to watch everything you built burn to the ground while the fireman take your wife for a spin.

No thank you. I will take a V8.

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– DaesDaemar 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Your username is well chosen. V8's reportedly have lots of vitamins, enjoy.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

This comment gibs me diarreah

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– huhWHAThuh 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

True, but a ATM only about 4% of American homes are powered by solar. And it would take a giant size array and a big eyesore to power a home fully and charge up a couple of family autos. It might fill up the roof and yard too, and drain a bank account. And that is assuming good sunlight.

The on car solar is hardly worth having as for example the Toyota Prius Prime kicks out 180 watts and on a good sunny day would add a whopping 3.8 miles of driving range for a full day charge.

Maybe in the future when they unveil Tesla's free energy machine it would start to make sense.

Until then it just sounds good until you think about it.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Solar roofs are coming... Tesla to the rescue again. Never bet against Elon

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– DaesDaemar 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nobody should buy a Prius, that's for sure.

Another downside of solar is it is continually getting better so 2 years later your fancy new solar home is less efficient than the new stuff. It's like having a 10 year old iPhone on your home you can't easily replace but are still making payments on.

I mainly like solar for "free" power in SHTF situations where you can't get access to fuel. People should also have a propane tank and generator out back if they're really trying to prep.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Solar, lots of batteries, as well as hydroelectric from a running water source. There are kits you can put together yourself on a riverbank. Who wouldn't want free electricity? Add in a well and a satellite dish and you're completely off the grid, and can tell the power and water companies to go fuck themselves when they inevitably come to bother you.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nuclear pollution functionally doesn't exist.

It's only when an unforeseen event causes a meltdown, which is not only rare already (as there have been few in decades of use) but also protected against with new standards of construction, operations and maintenance.

Nuclear waste material (from reactors) is stored on-site in heavy metal containers, and this is the only real problem. Those containers are expensive and space is not limitless.

Deep ground disposal is also good. But we are still looking at radioactivity for hundreds of years in some cases.

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– huhWHAThuh 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Nuclear pollution functionally doesn't exist.

Tell that to the people who live in the general area of Fukushima or Chernobyl.

It's still leeching out at Chernobyl and slowly draining into the Pacific in Fukushima.

Nuclear waste material (from reactors) is stored on-site in heavy metal containers

You mean like the ones that exploded at Fukushima a few years back?

Deep ground disposal is also good. But we are still looking at radioactivity for hundreds of years in some cases.

Hundreds of years?

Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years.

At that rate it might be environmentally safe by around the time the Sun burns out.

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– RobinOfTheHood 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

Look up some videos by Kirk Sorensen, he's a huge advocate of Thorium reactors and explains how they can be used to burn nuclear waste to zero radioactive potential. His view is also that the long half life of some radioactive isotopes makes them less harmful than those with short half lives, as they emit the same amount of radiation but spread out over a much longer period.

Unfortunately (fortunately if it was allowed) Thorium is relatively common, so TPTB can't get their monopoly on it and have buried the technology to the best of their ability.

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– FiatLux 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Bingo

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Tell that to the people who live in the general area of Fukushima or Chernobyl.

These are meltdowns. One due to a natural disaster to a facility not equipped to stand against it, and the other caused by corruption. I suggest you get educated.

Nuclear facilities run every day all over the world, and you can list two instances.

You mean like the ones that exploded at Fukushima a few years back?

You're literally retarded.

Hundreds of years?

Plutonium-239 has a half-life of 24,000 years.

At that rate it might be environmentally safe by around the time the Sun burns out.

Nuclear waste with a long half-life can be recycled via thorium reactors and brought down to..yes, hundreds of years.

You have no knowledge of anything nuclear, so perhaps you should get educated.

Again, when you reference two facilities with a myriad of problems and one with a natural disaster, you're showing how actually uneducated you are on the subject.

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– huhWHAThuh 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Nuclear waste with a long half life that is dispersed into the environment cannot be recycled into anything, you dimwit.

And OF COURSE I am referring to catastrophic failures. It is the catastrophic events that cause the serious issues.

The current situation at Chernobyl is Plutonium 239 has pollinated the environment 100 kilometers in every direction, WITH NO END IN SIGHT.

And Fukushima is leeching a cocktail of radioactive poison into the Pacific day and night, WITH NO END IN SIGHT.

They have happened AND THEY WILL HAPPEN as long as nuclear facilities continue to operate.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You have to worry about radioactive danger when a plant suffers a catastrophic failure.

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– Wtf_socialismreally 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Which I've covered. Facilities have far higher standards of every aspect than they ever did before, because we learned from the mistakes of others.

Even the Fukushima incident has been used to better prepare for those types of natural disasters.

Also, it's not just a "catastrophic failure", as there are precautions in place to prevent any radioactive leakage.

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– MordenGeist 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Look up " thorium car". 1 gram can produce the same output as tens of thousands of barrels of oil. Uses no lubricants and is projected to run 1 million miles...with no refills.

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– SoMuchWinning45 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Who cares about the electric grid being able to keep up with demand, all that matters are feeeeelings about electric cars, who cares what it takes to make the batteries, the only thing that matters is feeeeelings.

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– sep11insidejob 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Solar roofs/Powerpack combos. That is the answer. And as Tesla ramps up the 4860 batteries manufacturing the price will fall.

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