Of all the Q proofs, I believe that Flynn taking the WWG1WGA oath was one of the best. Flynn had spent a year signing books with WWG1WGA before this. Flynn was holding a “digital warrior” conference that was canceled.
Then, suddenly Flynn stopped. He dismissed Q as a Larp as seemed annoyed by it all. Then he suggests it is government misinformation.
What if he was outside the circle, but knew it was true. Flynn, takes it upon himself to start making Q proofs—maybe some too strong and direct for where the Q team wanted things to be at that time.
Maybe the Q team pulled him aside and told him to knock it off. Flynn is pissed and says “fine! I’ll say I don’t even believe in it!”
I have no idea. It’s just weird how he changed 180 degrees over night.
At this point. The movement has done more good then harm. If someone showed me proof that this was a LARP by the bad guys.
I still would have no regrets!! This would be the worse bad guy LARP in history!!
Well, a Larp is someone role-playing in real life. In that case it would more likely be someone with good intentions but not who they claim to be.
Very true!
Read carefully what he says. QAnon is a psyop government outsourced. QAnon, the MSM thing. He does not speak about Q and anons, he speaks about that strawman which is constantly, publicly attacked.
Q (as in our Q, not "Qanon") is absolutely a psyop... It's an operation to change people's minds about something, isn't it?
That could be good or bad.
Hasn't his official stance always been that Q is a psyop?
Yes. A PsyOp that is being run by the white hats. I don't know why some people think that PsyOps is just a deep state operation.
Well, I can imagine why. Psychological operations are always about manipulating you without your consent or knowledge to achieve a specific goal. It involves deception, misdirection, disinformation, emotional manipulation etc. The question is, does the goal justify the means?
That's a very insightful question you made. I agree it does involve "deception, misdirection, disinformation, emotional manipulation etc.", but it also mixes with these things truth. I always like to use the analogy that if the devil himself lied all the time, he would be very predictable and therefore would have no affect on any of us. However, this is not the case because the devil very effectively mixes truth with deceit to get people to believe.
I recall reading that the standard MSM ratio for socially engineering the public, which can be argued as another form of PsyOp, was 85% truth and 15% lies (deception, misdirection, disinformation, emotional manipulation etc.). This was the standard prior to Trump's great exposure of the MSM. Now, the MSM is on blast mode to which the old rule-of-thumb percentage has been tossed to the ways side. It appears the percentage of lies is flipped to be at least 85%.
Your devil analogy is interesting - and I agree that the most effective manipulation /propaganda has some truth to it. That begs again the question, can there be such a thing as a "good" psyop? I don't have the answer, but my gut feeling tells me that if you are good, you speak the truth and nothing but the truth. You uncover truth and let it speak for itself. You do not manipulate others into believing the truth, you try to convince them with facts.
It's interesting what you are stating here. I don't know if you noticed it or not, but you putting the use of PsyOps in the context of a moral issue. In terms of warfare, depending on the individual's perspective, there are good guys and bad guys. We associate 'white hats' as being the good guys. Contrarily, the 'black hats' are the bad guys. Both sides use PsyOps in warfare. So PsyOps is really just as much of a moral question as war itself. Make no mistake about it, we are at war though. I don't know if a lot of people really grasp this. It's almost if the reality of this will only occur when the FBI shows up at their door to whisk them away to some gulag. Look at the J6 to get an understanding of where we are at.
I suppose your premise compares if killing in war is murder. In warfare, there is no 'real' limit to the evil that ensues.
but now he seems to suggest it is a psyop against the American people, and not against the DS.
I don’t trust Flynn anymore, ever since he led that church congregation in a cult prayer. I think he grifted off the Q movement for as long as he could and now he’s poisoning the well, so to speak. People think he was bankrupted by his legal issues, it isn’t true.
I dug up some dirt on one of his “consulting firms” and now I’m almost positive he’s subversive, which causes me to SERIOUSLY question the “patriots” closely involved with him.
His brother was involved in blocking the use of the NG on January 6th. People need to do some deep research here, I don’t think you’ll like what you find.
Has he said before that it was a psyops against the deep state? Did he use those words? Genuinely don't know.
Even if General Flynn knew, he's not going to admit it.
It doesn't matter what he says. GEOTUS would have disavowed it. Period. Not to mention all the insane proofs. What do you expect him to say, "oh yeah, we're building We the People into an army"...?
Did he though? Watch/read his wording carefully
I am not sure why it matters. It is not important to me who Q is or whether the Q Proofs all hold up. The important part for me was that it got me looking at the news in a different way and encouraged me to investigate for myself. Q raised topics that I might not have discovered for myself.
From that standpoint Q was a huge success and it really does not matter if it was run by POTUS or the janitor. The result is what it is.
As for "The Plan", I think Flynn is telling us that we can't all just sit back and wait for some magic to happen. Rather, we need to help it along ourselves. We can start by stepping up our "digital soldiers" role. Maybe standing for your school board or running for the local council would be possibilities for some. Some involvement on our part is required.