ok so we know that with enough force you can just bend metal right?
and if you want to make the job easier you apply heat.
and the more you heat it the less force you need to bend it right?
after impact the buildings are essentially two structural systems divided by a damaged system... like the DMZ dividing N and S Korea. the damaged area is now able to hold far less weight than it was optimized to hold before it got compromised. the weight from the undamaged building above the impact zone is now being carried by far fewer structural elements...
aka "less shit to hold up shit".
now set all of that shit on fire and let it cook for a long time, getting hotter and hotter... getting softer, getting weaker.
as the fires burned you could see floors sagging, you could see trusses hanging there and dropping down between floors... it was fucking dicked.
you could see deformation of the outside skin as the inside floors sagged and pulled (lateral tension) on the sides of the building from the inside.
i have no idea what dude is talking about with crystalline structures and expanding and contracting... all i know is the floors got hot, they sagged, it pulled the walls inward till the top of the building was too heavy then it failed...
we are talking about the top 1/3 or 1/4 of one of the largest structures on the planet... how much do you think all that shit weighs?
more importantly, once the damaged area can't hold the top anymore and all that shit starts falling down the only thing stopping all of that mass in motion is going to be the planet.
no worries, i'm actually shocked i've been able to bite my tounge this much cause i really hate these people. i'm fading fast i don't think i can deal with these people much more tonight it's really depressing.
The top of the building would have toppled over ,it wouldn't have imploded into its own footprint.
While your at it explain bldg 7 and no airplane wreckage at the pentagon
The top of the building would have toppled over ,it wouldn't have imploded into its own footprint.
buildings aren't trees, they don't "topple over" like that when this type of damage and failure occurs. it's actually quite complicated to get a building to fall over to the side, it requires months of careful planning and strategic charges placed in all the right places going off in a pattern to allow the building to fall the way you want it to.
some do begin to fall that way, but once it starts to lean everything just explodes from the tension and unless it has something to pivot on or there are precisely timed charges to sever foundational links where the tension would be... it drops straight down (cause gravity).
in fact, if you watch the collapse, you can see the antenna on top of the tower leaning to the side before it does exactly what i just described... starts to lean then accelerates downward.
While your at it explain bldg 7
same exact "damage + fires = collapse" that caused the first two to drop.
WTC7 had massive damage done to it by the collapse of the other two, there were also multiple fires that started all over that area when it got damaged. those fires heated up the damaged area until the damaged area was no longer able to carry the weight of the building above.
no airplane wreckage at the pentagon
out of all the things you said this is the most embarrassing one and the one you should probably stop saying the most. there are plenty of pictures showing wreckage, even part of an engine and landing gear...
shortly after the attack someone posted a whole slew of pictures they took from the road, on the other side of the fence, that had obstructed views due to the grass berm they were behind.
a bunch of disinfo assholes started saying "oh look there's no plane parts" and people ran with it.
you can just google img search "pentagon plane wreckage" and you'll see how debunked this particular one is.
...perhaps ask yourself how exactly did you come to believe this without ever checking into it yourself and how that might also be true about other things you believe.
Stick a piece of rebar in a good coal bed for half an hour. You'll be able to bend it. If you want to shape it you'll need a hammer and some sweat, but that's not what we're talking about.
"Coal" isn't a "campfire" and burns much hotter than wood. Now, add the other required non-campfire implements. Heck, move the goal posts all the way over to the blacksmith shop.
"For Pete's sake", your use of equivocation renders pretty much every claim that you make meaningless. The thesaurus is not Vaseline for slippery escapes. "Coal" is not wood cinders. I've never once seen a "coal" campfire. Perhaps you meant 'a bed of hot coals', but that's not what you said. The entire claim is silly to begin with.
people literally have to heat it in forges till it's glowing and hit it with heavy hammers to get it to stretch and bend small amounts.
ok so we know that with enough force you can just bend metal right?
and if you want to make the job easier you apply heat.
and the more you heat it the less force you need to bend it right?
after impact the buildings are essentially two structural systems divided by a damaged system... like the DMZ dividing N and S Korea. the damaged area is now able to hold far less weight than it was optimized to hold before it got compromised. the weight from the undamaged building above the impact zone is now being carried by far fewer structural elements...
aka "less shit to hold up shit".
now set all of that shit on fire and let it cook for a long time, getting hotter and hotter... getting softer, getting weaker.
as the fires burned you could see floors sagging, you could see trusses hanging there and dropping down between floors... it was fucking dicked.
you could see deformation of the outside skin as the inside floors sagged and pulled (lateral tension) on the sides of the building from the inside.
i have no idea what dude is talking about with crystalline structures and expanding and contracting... all i know is the floors got hot, they sagged, it pulled the walls inward till the top of the building was too heavy then it failed...
we are talking about the top 1/3 or 1/4 of one of the largest structures on the planet... how much do you think all that shit weighs?
more importantly, once the damaged area can't hold the top anymore and all that shit starts falling down the only thing stopping all of that mass in motion is going to be the planet.
Thanks for having the patience to explain it in more detail than I did. I don't expect it'll do any good, but good comment.
no worries, i'm actually shocked i've been able to bite my tounge this much cause i really hate these people. i'm fading fast i don't think i can deal with these people much more tonight it's really depressing.
The top of the building would have toppled over ,it wouldn't have imploded into its own footprint. While your at it explain bldg 7 and no airplane wreckage at the pentagon
yikes
buildings aren't trees, they don't "topple over" like that when this type of damage and failure occurs. it's actually quite complicated to get a building to fall over to the side, it requires months of careful planning and strategic charges placed in all the right places going off in a pattern to allow the building to fall the way you want it to.
some do begin to fall that way, but once it starts to lean everything just explodes from the tension and unless it has something to pivot on or there are precisely timed charges to sever foundational links where the tension would be... it drops straight down (cause gravity).
in fact, if you watch the collapse, you can see the antenna on top of the tower leaning to the side before it does exactly what i just described... starts to lean then accelerates downward.
same exact "damage + fires = collapse" that caused the first two to drop.
WTC7 had massive damage done to it by the collapse of the other two, there were also multiple fires that started all over that area when it got damaged. those fires heated up the damaged area until the damaged area was no longer able to carry the weight of the building above.
out of all the things you said this is the most embarrassing one and the one you should probably stop saying the most. there are plenty of pictures showing wreckage, even part of an engine and landing gear...
shortly after the attack someone posted a whole slew of pictures they took from the road, on the other side of the fence, that had obstructed views due to the grass berm they were behind.
a bunch of disinfo assholes started saying "oh look there's no plane parts" and people ran with it.
you can just google img search "pentagon plane wreckage" and you'll see how debunked this particular one is.
...perhaps ask yourself how exactly did you come to believe this without ever checking into it yourself and how that might also be true about other things you believe.
Thousands of engineers and architect's disagree.
No fireproof steel building in the world ever collapsed into its own footprint until 9 11 when 3 did
There wasn't any airplane wreckage at the Pentagon and YOU don't have any pictures 9f it
Hundreds of NYC Firefighters heard the explosives going off
The truth is coming out and you're in a panic, ts so much fun to watch. Have a nice day Rabbi
Stick a piece of rebar in a good coal bed for half an hour. You'll be able to bend it. If you want to shape it you'll need a hammer and some sweat, but that's not what we're talking about.
"Coal" isn't a "campfire" and burns much hotter than wood. Now, add the other required non-campfire implements. Heck, move the goal posts all the way over to the blacksmith shop.
For Pete's sake, you don't even know what campfire coals are? I'm astounded at how cocksure ignorant people can be.
"For Pete's sake", your use of equivocation renders pretty much every claim that you make meaningless. The thesaurus is not Vaseline for slippery escapes. "Coal" is not wood cinders. I've never once seen a "coal" campfire. Perhaps you meant 'a bed of hot coals', but that's not what you said. The entire claim is silly to begin with.