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Snowden is very grey to me, if not black. I used think he was a hero, that Trump should pardon him...(AbsoluteTruth1776) (media.greatawakening.win)
posted 2 years ago by purkiss80 2 years ago by purkiss80 +23 / -0
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– Bye_Reddit 10 points 2 years ago +10 / -0

I don't think a real whistleblower would be allowed to accrue such celebrity status. Government would issue a gag order, and the media would listen like the good little stooges they are. Snowden is probably just an actor.

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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Snowden asked for citizenship for himself since he now has two children born in Russia. He did not want to be out of the country and not be able to get back in where his family is. THAT is the reason, black or white hat.

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– ToxicLibertyism 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

I have to ask myself an honest question every time I hear the govt. try to tell me that my [national] security has been endangered because some whistleblower exposed govt. property to the media- MY PROPERTY; bought and paid for with MY tax dollars.

And the older I get, the more I want to tell anyone from the govt. who spouts that bullshit at me to fuck right off.

Why? Because, I see quite a number of faults with that whole one-sided thought process. I don't feel like going into long winded rant about everything I believe is wrong with demonizing whistleblowers, but I will touch on a couple of those points.

*This first big problem I've got with the "whistleblower's are wrong, cuz muh natl. security" narrative is the fact that we the people DO NOT CONSENT TO OUR GOVT. VIOLATING OUR CONSTITUTION!

That point is always glossed over by the establishment with some horseshit excuse that always sounds something just like this: "But we violated the constitution for the greater good, little peasants."

As if the govt. has any kind of constitutional authority to hide crimes, and their violations of the constitutional rights against American citizens. The arrogance displayed by the govt. establishment when they defend their wanton lawlessness is sickening to behold.

The second big problem I have with this whole demonizing of whistleblower's narrative is the fact that the govt. CANNOT PROVE that any "damage to national security" was done at all!
Personally, I have a very, very hard time believing that pretty much anything any whistleblower divulges is/was any kind of "secret."
When I stop to consider how many filthy, corrupt, immoral snakes infest our govt. I simply cannot accept the notion that these so called "national security secrets" were not sold, or traded by those within our govt. to adversaries long before the American public ever heard about it.
And, that is besides the idea that simple incompetence from the boobs in govt. could have lost those secrets, too.

TL;DR: Whistleblowers wouldn't be a problem if the govt. did not spend our tax money to do unconstitutional/illegal things against American citizens. Fuck 'em. I want to see lots more whistleblowing.
We the people can decide for ourselves if "safety" is worth allowing our govt. to secretly commit crimes, and violate the constitutional rights of US citizens.

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– purkiss80 [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

But listening to what Adm Rogers had to say about it https://youtu.be/bPY7k2u3zcg

What Gen Flynn had to say https://youtu.be/huEMzoVj6TY (starts about 26min mark)

And reading what the Drops say https://qalerts.app/?q=Snowden

Has adjusted my view. https://apnews.com/article/edward-snowden-russian-citizenship-441ab3c037b91145d17f2de2237f834d

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– Hayle 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

He looks like you’d find his picture next to “soy cuck” in the dictionary. Not a fan, but hope he flipped to being a good guy.

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– 2EyesOpen 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The strange fiasco surrounding his stripper 'girlfriend in Hawaii.

Did anyone else catch the pic of 'her', an outdoor scene lit up at night, at the edge of a cliff (precipice) in a blue outfit, with a guy fawkes 'anonymous' mask on?

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– TewaPatriot 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

He worked for the CIA. The white hats were using the NSA to spy on the deep state and us illegally to see what the hell was going on and who was trying to trade military/other secrets to China. Snowden was sent in by the CIA as a "contractor" to become a fake whistleblower for the deep state because they had inside information that the white hats where collecting data, voice/texts/etc on them.

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