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Even After $100 Billion, Self-Driving Cars Are Going Nowhere
posted 2 years ago by ashlanddog 2 years ago by ashlanddog +43 / -0

They were supposed to be the future. But prominent detractors—including Anthony Levandowski, who pioneered the industry—are getting louder as the losses get bigger.

https://archive.ph/ZnqFl

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– Reborned20 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

regulations have: stifled sections of our economy, while not being applied to other economies have caused them to grow at our expense.

electric cars have: increased costs to infrastructure, wasted money and wealth mining minerals that will eventually pollute economically and chemically

self driving cars have: spent money, someone made and used instead of investing it where it is needed.

I'd say the actions had a real effect.

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– ashlanddog [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

...doggy winks....

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– Narg 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

Computers are superhuman at narrow, focused tasks in "kind" environments -- where there are unbreakable rules and no major changes in the playing field as the game progresses. Computers are AMAZING at games like Chess and Go, for instance.

Computers do poorly in "wicked" environments (i.e., normal life situations) where things change drastically and often, where the rules vary constantly, where new situations arise unexpectedly, where actual human experience is necessary to understand the nuance and context of what is happening, and so on.

Computers are basically idiot savants with multiple specialties (depending mostly on software) but without common sense or other important human attributes (including feeling and empathy).

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– Elcycs 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

I mostly agree. If we want self driving cars to work any time soon they need a controlled environment. It wouldn't be all that difficult to make freeways that environment. Maybe start with separated self-driving only lanes similar to HOV lanes.

If it's really something we want to do...

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– ashlanddog [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

...outstanding observation....

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– Tewdryg 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Any improvement to battery technology threatens the electrical grid. Imagine home owners building houses and living off the grid using energy that is good enough to power the entire home.

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– MiltonWilliamCooper 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

I wan nothing more than to give the government full access to my own personal form of transportation and to allow them full control of my thermostat at home and camera inside my own refrigerator. Bigbrother knows best.

Please note the intense sarcasm.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

...duly noted....

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– DRQ- 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

My lane correcting self braking car has saved my wife twice from running into the back of the car in front. Once she was looking down at her phone, the second time she was tailgating and didn’t react fast enough. So technology can be good. But I’ve driven the same car and it has tried to steer me into an oncoming car many times, and it brakes when it shouldn’t sometimes. Would I trust it with my life? No.

Would I trust Maps to take the right route, then go to sleep at the wheel? No. I’ve been messed around too many times to trust it. They don’t even trust trains to not have drivers and they are on rails. Aircraft have pilots even though they don’t need them and trees don’t jump out at planes. Ask yourself why.

Self driving cars are a fantasy. Just like vacuum tube underground roads where cars can do 700km/h.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

...you have a firm grasp of the situational reality....

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– xchainlinkx 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Would've been a wonderous innovation if it weren't for globalist fuckheads.

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– Aspie 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Going nowhere, except into trees and other cars. :)

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

...howls...

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– DextertheCat 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There are many arguments, both for and against. In the end, I believe cities will be the most benefitted by this evolving technology. There are significant hurdles and obstacles, especially in a software that can process the millions of variables per second in an unexpected situation, but in the end, I believe that it can be done. My biggest concern is hackers and the weaponization of self driving vehicles. While I do see the amazing potential benefit, I see the terrible potential for targeted murders, mass chaos and damage and the over-reach of an increasingly Orwellian government. If there is an uninterruptible manual over-ride and a hack proof "internet" for the vehicle to vehicle communication, it would be more secure, however I don't think I will live to see the fielding of the fully mature technology. With the current state of affairs, it is hard to envision a Utopian technologic future. Somehow, it is far easier to envision a future that involves connecting more with the land, spreading out the populace and decentralizing from the cities. Energy independent homesteads and self sufficient farming. That dream doesn't work for most people, but that is the future Utopia that I envision for myself.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

...compelling observation, nicely stated and framed....

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– TrogdorTheBurninat0r 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

this could be said of any advancement in technology before the current accepted state. Airplanes would have gone nowhere, people called the Wright brothers crazy. Nikolo Tesla would have gotten nowhere and people also called him crazy. Ford was crazy for building a "car" in his garage and yet now look at us. The problem is not effort in innovation, the problem is corrupt government that pushes specific agendas. Many of us here assume a fully autonomous car would be controlled by our overlords (shut it off due to carbon credit limit), and that is likely the case, all the while people fail to realize they are already in and a part of the system that is pushing these agendas.

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