Environmental scam... Not enough lithium in the world to go "green"
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It probably does if 90% of the world isn't here anymore!
And that's the plan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrolithium
I wonder if we can get lithium and cobalt from oil?
Exactly. The limits of lithium were known. The Georgia guidestones gave the plan away, 550 million is what could be governed and the rest have to go.
They were. The stones were placed by a few very substantial Cristian Brothers of the Rose Cross to expose the plans of the elite, inform all who visited or actually researched them of the coming catastrophe, and advise and inform future survivors of the cataclysm while acting as a "Rosetta Stone" of human language and history since the previous event.
IT's always been about supply & demand...NOTHING ELSE!!!...Look at the clot shots!!!
Lets discuss the super green, diesel dependent mining operations that extract these materials! Im fine with it, but how green are these batteries really?
Exactly.
And the bird killing wind turbines...
But oil wells that were dry 80 years ago are back to capacity. Oil is a renewable resource
This BLOWS UP the assumption that GREEN ENERGY is here to stay...NOT!!!
Oops! Somebody's pulling back the curtain and exposing the Wizard!
Just keep digging holes to get to things they tell us we need.
Does the Earth mind that we deface it so?
Does God mind when we deface the Earth?
Has anyone paid attention the cost of Lithium batteries? If not, let me tell you they have gone up considerably. What should that do to the cost of electric vehicles? These commies are crazy.
I have read that all the lithium on earth could make batteries enough to power the earth for just 20 minutes. Therefore, impossible.
On the other hand, I have a plan that might actually work, if someone took it seriously.
In the current power system, we have a large grid. All the power plants are hooked up to it, so if one goes down, the others take up the slack. No storage batteries are required.
If all the windmills and solar panels were hooked into a worldwide series of grids, if the sun wasn't shining or the wind wasn't blowing somewhere, the power would come from elsewhere. The main thing we would need is power transmission crossways of time zones so the power could go from light areas to dark areas.
You will always lose a lot of energy across vast distances and that's why there is a problem with that. There is essentially no way to fix that
High voltage is how cross-country lines do that currently. The whole east coast is one huge grid. The west is another grid. And Texas is the third grid in the US.
If the energy is from the sun and wind and essentially free, it doesn't matter if there's waste. There's a ton of waste in our current system.
The problem is that they aren't free. They have ecological consequences -- before, during and after the life.
We would essentially need to overhaul a massive number of different aspects of technology with a ton of new discoveries and R&D philosophies, and even then solar is already incredibly inefficient and even Elon doesn't believe it'll get more efficient and he's as much of a solar shill as the next.
I didn't say the system is free. The energy itself is free.
There’s definitely enough lithium-200 billion tons of it, dissolved in seawater. Far less cobalt, though.
Everything I find says about 1000 metric tons.
Really? The source I found had cobalt at 507 million tonnes. Chart on second page, note that totals given are in millions of tonnes: https://pubs.acs.org/doi/pdf/10.1021/acs.est.5b00463?src=getftr
I was referring to lithium.
But extracting it from sea water seems like its own environmental disaster.
Also... Sauce from an environmental org is suss.
Oh yeah, the greens will hate it, just like they hate anything that actually works. But if you're worried about the source, you can just multiply the lithium concentration in seawater by the total volume of seawater. I guarantee you'll get more than 1000 tonnes, lol.
The actual downside of seawater extraction of any mineral is the significant energy cost. Mining land deposits is cheaper, until we mine them out.
The lithium in sea water is irrelevant since they really can't access much of it.
Sure we can. The ocean brings it to you on the currents. And as you lower the concentration, more lithium dissolves into the water to maintain equilibrium, from the 70% of the earth covered by ocean. Like I said, the downside is expense, not abundance. I just don't like people deceptively saying that the Earth doesn't have enough of something, because it definitely does. It just gets more expensive to extract.
Nothing about seawater extraction makes net-zero any less suicidal, of course.
If the green push is successful, it accomplishes several things. It preserves what is left of "easily accessible" fuel for later, when that will be really important. The greener all electric we go the easier it will be to have all surface dwellers shut down by intentional emp or the coming inevitable solar flares and or cme. I have a hunch the earths lithium deposits are about to be replenished.