There was one 2,000 years ago. The same spiritual evil that is running the world today killed him. However, He was resurrected and became a life-giving Spirit. We were made with a human spirit. It's like a USB port for God. I know Him. I received Him into my spirit. Now, He's conforming my soul to His. It's a life-long process and many Christians haven't even started yet. They don't know they have a spirit, and they don't know they need their mind renewed with the mind of Christ. They are ignorant of the Bible. They're waiting for the bus to carry them off to heaven. In the meantime, they still express their old man, the old Satanic self. That doesn't negate God, or the plan in the Bible for the salvation of the soul, the person, of fallen corrupt people.
Ok, God is the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and the gift of holy spirit.
God gives that which he is which is both Holy and Spirit.
God is Spirit and no man hath seen Him at any time. Jesus Christ was a man who you could see.
Time to shed the religious lies about who God, His Son and the gift he secured for us is.
Wanna walk in power. You tell me who you think Jesus Christ is and I'll tell you how far you'll go spiritually.
The "Trinity" is a "Triunity." They are distinct, but never separate, otherwise you have 3 Gods instead of 1 and that is heresy. Jesus said, "I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me (Jn. 14:11). "The last Adam [Jesus], became a life-giving Spirit (1 Cor, 15:45)." "Now the Lord is that Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17). Read Romans 8:9-11. How many Spirits do you think are in you (if you've received the Spirit)? The type which shows the unity of the Triune God is the compound ointment in Exodus 30. That is the anointing we all have that is mentioned in 1 Jn. 2:20.
Regarding your reference that He left us the Holy Spirit (from Jn, 14, I assume), verse 16 says that He will ask the Father and He will given us another Comforter, the Spirit of reality (v. 17), but in v. 18, He says, I am coming to you. So, who is coming? The Spirit of reality, or the Son? Both, because the Son is "compounded" into the Spirit. They are one. Distinct, but not separate. The Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Spirit. Triune.
Trinity is the word that the early church used. Triunity is made up and unnecessary if it means the same thing and if it doesn’t, it’s heresy. The Holy Spirit is with us in a different way than the Son is with us, since the Son is at the right hand of the Father and physically present in the Eucharist.
Trinity was also made up, even if by the early church, to describe a real thing as best they understood it. If I hold up 3 fingers, that is a trinity. Applied to God, that would be tri-theism. However, if I put tea leaves into hot water and add honey, that is a tri-unity. Applied to God, that is 3 distinct but not separate hypostases, but 1 God. If you split the 3 of the Godhead into separated persons, that is tri-theism, which I believe was rejected as heresy by the Catholics.
As for Christ being physically present in the Eucharist, in John 6, Jesus does say that to have eternal life we must eat His flesh and drink His blood, however, He explains what He means in verse 63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words which I have spoken to you are spirit and life." The eating and drinking are not a matter of the flesh, they are a matter of the Spirit. Christ is the Spirit. The blood is in the Spirit, "If we walk in the light (the Spirit) as He is in the light...the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from every sin (1 Jn. 17). To "eat" Him, is to take Him in, first into our spirit through believing, then He makes His home in our heart as our mind is renewed with the mind of Christ.
The Virgin Mary received the Spirit to conceive the Son. Yes they are separate and still the same; behind our understanding. But the Blessed Virgin Mary is the one human who would know best. Being there with the apostles at Pentecost would have been a deep and wonderful reunion for her...
Are you your Father? NO he is in you. Can you be one in purpose? Yes.
I and the Father are one (in purpose)
The devil did a number with that doctrine.
Jesus Christ said the work that I do ye shall do also and greater works than these shall ye do because I go unto myself? No
Because he went to the Father. So we can fo greater works than God who empowers us? Would not make sense.
There are three for sure, but they are not one and the same.
"In purpose" is your interpretation and addition. It is not in the text. Isaiah 9:6 says, "A child is born to us (the humanity of Jesus from Mary), a Son is given to us (the divinity of Jesus from the Father through the Spirit), and His name will be called...Eternal Father...The way this works is the tri-unity of God in the Spirit.
I did not say that the 3 are "one and the same." The 3 are distinct, but not separate. If They were physical, They could not be one. We would have to reason, as you said, that it must mean They are one in purpose. However, God is Spirit. All 3 are Spirit. It's like the oil that the ingredients of the compound ointment are compounded into to make one compounded ointment (Ex. 30). That is how God can be simultaneously 3 and 1, and we don't have to reason away that Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."
According to Isaiah 53 and history, God was pleased to crush Him (v.10), Christ poured out His life unto death (v. 12) (as you said), by the oppression of the hypocritical Jewish leaders he was lead to the slaughter, and He was then judged by the unjust Roman officials (v. 8). It was a cooperative venture.
There was one 2,000 years ago. The same spiritual evil that is running the world today killed him. However, He was resurrected and became a life-giving Spirit. We were made with a human spirit. It's like a USB port for God. I know Him. I received Him into my spirit. Now, He's conforming my soul to His. It's a life-long process and many Christians haven't even started yet. They don't know they have a spirit, and they don't know they need their mind renewed with the mind of Christ. They are ignorant of the Bible. They're waiting for the bus to carry them off to heaven. In the meantime, they still express their old man, the old Satanic self. That doesn't negate God, or the plan in the Bible for the salvation of the soul, the person, of fallen corrupt people.
No, Jesus did not become the Holy Spirit. He left us the Holy Spirit, who is the Third Person of the Trinity.
Correct. All God. Triune.
Ok, God is the Father, Jesus Christ the Son and the gift of holy spirit.
God gives that which he is which is both Holy and Spirit.
God is Spirit and no man hath seen Him at any time. Jesus Christ was a man who you could see.
Time to shed the religious lies about who God, His Son and the gift he secured for us is.
Wanna walk in power. You tell me who you think Jesus Christ is and I'll tell you how far you'll go spiritually.
The "Trinity" is a "Triunity." They are distinct, but never separate, otherwise you have 3 Gods instead of 1 and that is heresy. Jesus said, "I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me (Jn. 14:11). "The last Adam [Jesus], became a life-giving Spirit (1 Cor, 15:45)." "Now the Lord is that Spirit (2 Cor. 3:17). Read Romans 8:9-11. How many Spirits do you think are in you (if you've received the Spirit)? The type which shows the unity of the Triune God is the compound ointment in Exodus 30. That is the anointing we all have that is mentioned in 1 Jn. 2:20.
Regarding your reference that He left us the Holy Spirit (from Jn, 14, I assume), verse 16 says that He will ask the Father and He will given us another Comforter, the Spirit of reality (v. 17), but in v. 18, He says, I am coming to you. So, who is coming? The Spirit of reality, or the Son? Both, because the Son is "compounded" into the Spirit. They are one. Distinct, but not separate. The Father is in the Son, and the Son is in the Spirit. Triune.
Trinity is the word that the early church used. Triunity is made up and unnecessary if it means the same thing and if it doesn’t, it’s heresy. The Holy Spirit is with us in a different way than the Son is with us, since the Son is at the right hand of the Father and physically present in the Eucharist.
Cheers.
Trinity was also made up, even if by the early church, to describe a real thing as best they understood it. If I hold up 3 fingers, that is a trinity. Applied to God, that would be tri-theism. However, if I put tea leaves into hot water and add honey, that is a tri-unity. Applied to God, that is 3 distinct but not separate hypostases, but 1 God. If you split the 3 of the Godhead into separated persons, that is tri-theism, which I believe was rejected as heresy by the Catholics.
As for Christ being physically present in the Eucharist, in John 6, Jesus does say that to have eternal life we must eat His flesh and drink His blood, however, He explains what He means in verse 63, "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words which I have spoken to you are spirit and life." The eating and drinking are not a matter of the flesh, they are a matter of the Spirit. Christ is the Spirit. The blood is in the Spirit, "If we walk in the light (the Spirit) as He is in the light...the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from every sin (1 Jn. 17). To "eat" Him, is to take Him in, first into our spirit through believing, then He makes His home in our heart as our mind is renewed with the mind of Christ.
Did you kbow you are also seated at God right hand as a member of the body of Christ?
Heresy is making Christ God when he is the Son of God.
The Virgin Mary received the Spirit to conceive the Son. Yes they are separate and still the same; behind our understanding. But the Blessed Virgin Mary is the one human who would know best. Being there with the apostles at Pentecost would have been a deep and wonderful reunion for her...
Are you your Father? NO he is in you. Can you be one in purpose? Yes.
I and the Father are one (in purpose)
The devil did a number with that doctrine.
Jesus Christ said the work that I do ye shall do also and greater works than these shall ye do because I go unto myself? No Because he went to the Father. So we can fo greater works than God who empowers us? Would not make sense.
There are three for sure, but they are not one and the same.
"In purpose" is your interpretation and addition. It is not in the text. Isaiah 9:6 says, "A child is born to us (the humanity of Jesus from Mary), a Son is given to us (the divinity of Jesus from the Father through the Spirit), and His name will be called...Eternal Father...The way this works is the tri-unity of God in the Spirit.
I did not say that the 3 are "one and the same." The 3 are distinct, but not separate. If They were physical, They could not be one. We would have to reason, as you said, that it must mean They are one in purpose. However, God is Spirit. All 3 are Spirit. It's like the oil that the ingredients of the compound ointment are compounded into to make one compounded ointment (Ex. 30). That is how God can be simultaneously 3 and 1, and we don't have to reason away that Jesus said, "I and the Father are one."
Nobody killed Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He layed down his life and he gave up the ghost.
They crucified him but did not kill him. When he finally passed he said "it is finished".
He could have come off that tree any time he wanted. 73k angels at his disposal. He chose to obey unto death for us.
Bible says It's Christ in you the hope of glory
According to Isaiah 53 and history, God was pleased to crush Him (v.10), Christ poured out His life unto death (v. 12) (as you said), by the oppression of the hypocritical Jewish leaders he was lead to the slaughter, and He was then judged by the unjust Roman officials (v. 8). It was a cooperative venture.
Amen, Christ is us is the hope of glory.