Symbolism is engraven images. They are all symbols of this world -- none of them are righteous or evil. Only what you have in your heart can be righteous. Go plant an apple tree knowing you may never eat from it yourself but knowing that some day, that apple tree will feed someone that is hungry.
That actual apple tree is a symbol that would please God. Not nearly as much as what is in your heart, but it would. As soon as you draw a picture of it though, that picture is just an engraven image. It's not the apple tree. It is not Love. It feeds no one but the ego of someone trying to wear symbolic virtue for social advantage.
Does that make sense?
That being said, it's best not to be too serious about heavy ideas with children. If it's a symbol of peace to a child then it's a symbol of peace. Symbols aren't evil, they're just placeholders for ideas.
Don't let a t-shirt logo be a replacement for planting apple trees is all I am saying. We want our kids to be goofy and laugh and not fear silly things.
I think my actions have been doing this (your last sentence about letting her be a kid) by letting her wear unicorns and rainbows and peace symbols without controversy/discussion in front of her. It's hard sometimes. Grandma visits and always turns the conversation to the latest politics while she's in the room, and I have to try and nip it.
I like this part you wrote and I will need to work on this for myself:
"It feeds no one but the ego of someone trying to wear symbolic virtue for social advantage."
The creeps will steal and subvert beautiful and Godly things. Its their MO. Since I was little I have been fascinated by snowflakes, their intricate design and that no two are alike. As you know, snowflakes are six-pointed due to the crystalline structure of frozen water. When I learned of the star of Rephan I was initially of the thought that I should avoid all things six pointed, including snowflakes. What I came to realize later is the ridiculousness of letting Lucifer steal everything that is beautiful. He shouldn't just get to steal everything and we shouldn't let him. I am going to enjoy and admire snowflakes just the same, thank you very much!
Us too. Once our youngest found out it was a pagan holiday, he was done with it. We don't push things hard or anything like that, he just decided it was yucky.
I tend to agree with this. However, when one meaning is truly despicable like the spiral triangle, or when they've so universally won the meaning war on a symbol like with rainbows, then i can't just ignore their meanings. (I mean I guess I do with rainbows for young oblivious children) I'm not crazy about the unicorn merchandise (I believe it's an evil symbol) and it makes me cringe when my child has it but I allow it.
I guess I was hoping to be really good with the peace symbol, as I've seen a parallel in MAGA and old hippie stuff. Like holistic medicine, and anti-war, and anti-neocon, etc...
...this write up touched on the inverted Nero cross concept....
...I am an old hippy and have seen my share of peace signs, but it has gained a reputation of being a communist icon over the years whether deservingly so or not...
Yep all it was to me while observing hippy culture was "make love not war" as they say. What made me realize the hypocrisy was seeing that the flower children were the ones to spit on our veterans when they came home from 'nam. The hippies were the libtards of that era. Or were they just confused? No offense to any old hippies. I'm not the joiner type but I was sure a 'watcher' including the Laurel Canyon culture. And those peace signs were everywhere.
Symbolism is engraven images. They are all symbols of this world -- none of them are righteous or evil. Only what you have in your heart can be righteous. Go plant an apple tree knowing you may never eat from it yourself but knowing that some day, that apple tree will feed someone that is hungry.
That actual apple tree is a symbol that would please God. Not nearly as much as what is in your heart, but it would. As soon as you draw a picture of it though, that picture is just an engraven image. It's not the apple tree. It is not Love. It feeds no one but the ego of someone trying to wear symbolic virtue for social advantage.
Does that make sense?
That being said, it's best not to be too serious about heavy ideas with children. If it's a symbol of peace to a child then it's a symbol of peace. Symbols aren't evil, they're just placeholders for ideas.
Don't let a t-shirt logo be a replacement for planting apple trees is all I am saying. We want our kids to be goofy and laugh and not fear silly things.
Nice.
I think my actions have been doing this (your last sentence about letting her be a kid) by letting her wear unicorns and rainbows and peace symbols without controversy/discussion in front of her. It's hard sometimes. Grandma visits and always turns the conversation to the latest politics while she's in the room, and I have to try and nip it.
I like this part you wrote and I will need to work on this for myself:
"It feeds no one but the ego of someone trying to wear symbolic virtue for social advantage."
The peace sign in esotericism In esotericism, the peace sign, also known as a crow's foot, Druden's foot or witch's foot, still stands for death, destruction, war and disharmony. Source: https://www.livenet.ch/news/vermischtes/269918-wirklich_ein_symbol_des_friedens.html (in German)
https://www.britannica.com/story/where-did-the-peace-sign-come-from#:~:text=The%20modern%20peace%20sign%20was,signal%20for%20the%20letter%20N.
Also referred to as the foot print of the American Chicken (hippies)
Origin of the peace symbol is in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmgFG7PUHfo&ab_channel=Veritasium
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yah, that's what I read, but I was wondering if (like with so many others things), there's an "actual truth" that I hadn't heard about.
The creeps don't get to decide what all symbols and numbers mean. Take what you like.
The creeps will steal and subvert beautiful and Godly things. Its their MO. Since I was little I have been fascinated by snowflakes, their intricate design and that no two are alike. As you know, snowflakes are six-pointed due to the crystalline structure of frozen water. When I learned of the star of Rephan I was initially of the thought that I should avoid all things six pointed, including snowflakes. What I came to realize later is the ridiculousness of letting Lucifer steal everything that is beautiful. He shouldn't just get to steal everything and we shouldn't let him. I am going to enjoy and admire snowflakes just the same, thank you very much!
FUCKING THIS//\
Ohhhhh and Halloween imagery is completely ruined for me now. It used to be my favorite holiday!
Us too. Once our youngest found out it was a pagan holiday, he was done with it. We don't push things hard or anything like that, he just decided it was yucky.
I tend to agree with this. However, when one meaning is truly despicable like the spiral triangle, or when they've so universally won the meaning war on a symbol like with rainbows, then i can't just ignore their meanings. (I mean I guess I do with rainbows for young oblivious children) I'm not crazy about the unicorn merchandise (I believe it's an evil symbol) and it makes me cringe when my child has it but I allow it.
I guess I was hoping to be really good with the peace symbol, as I've seen a parallel in MAGA and old hippie stuff. Like holistic medicine, and anti-war, and anti-neocon, etc...
Rainbows can apparently have 6 or 7 colors, and we prefer 7...
...this write up touched on the inverted Nero cross concept....
...I am an old hippy and have seen my share of peace signs, but it has gained a reputation of being a communist icon over the years whether deservingly so or not...
Yep all it was to me while observing hippy culture was "make love not war" as they say. What made me realize the hypocrisy was seeing that the flower children were the ones to spit on our veterans when they came home from 'nam. The hippies were the libtards of that era. Or were they just confused? No offense to any old hippies. I'm not the joiner type but I was sure a 'watcher' including the Laurel Canyon culture. And those peace signs were everywhere.
...in hindsight, they (we) were right about the war...
...but very wrong about the lads and lassies that fought it...