I don't have to worry. I have an outhouse in my back yard. I just need to dig a hole to place it over. It's a two-seater, with a smaller hole for children so they won't fall in. It still has a roll of TP in it from back in the 50s or 60s when it was last used.
I also know how to operate it so there's little to no smell or health hazard.
I'm also in the country, so I currently have my own septic system. If the water supply stops, I can flush the toilet with buckets of water.
They are simple to build. The dirt from the hole is beside the outhouse, and you shovel some dirt in the hole after using the outhouse. A bag of lime also helps. When the hole is full, it's time to dig a new hole and move the outhouse over it.
There is something about having your own plot of land - and all that includes alternative lighting, a water supply independent from the town water - an outback toilet etc especially in these times. Peace of mind.
And. A little bit of vintage Aussie music - around 1940s+ 😀 We have to be very careful of the old red back. Nasty bite.
The reason our outhouse hasn't been used in so long, and there's a bathroom in the house now, is that my wife's grandfather was bit by a black widow spider in it and had to go to the hospital.
I like vintage music, mostly American, from the 1970s back to 100 years ago. I have a huge collection. I need to get the spring repaired in the old Victrola and dust off the Edison cylinder player and see if it still works.
We can collect rainwater, but I'd like to drill a new well. There was one here before, and we still have a point and drive handle. Stored in the outhouse for now.
We are at the point we could stop leaving home for two years or more.
Is that "red backed spider" like the black widow spider?
In Australia, every new home - going back 15 years must have a water tank installed and it must not be under a certain size. Your grey water to toilets and laundry must come from there. We have a tank on a stand and it’s there just in case as our home is 50 years old. We had a storm last night and when it’s full it diverts the roof water down the gutter and it ends up out to sea. Our useless politicians should be building dams as from now on our north are in the ‘wet season’ and that rainwater is wasted. I’m all for water storage. We could do much in our outback and make it bloom but for some reason it’s desert and wasted.
The redback and black widow are related - except our little mongrels have the red stripe. They can kill a child it not taken to hospital but their bite is dreadfully painful and requires a stint in hospital. Our bad spider in the Funellweb spider. Every hospital has access to its antivenin. They will kill in a very short time. Horrible looking too. Those that live around Sydney with sandstone rock in their gardens, must protect themselves outside. Often people will wake up to dozens in their swimming pools and there is a special unit at one of the major hospitals that collect the spiders if people come across them and this is where the antivenin is made.
While we are on a large block of land but have been preppers for 15 years? It’s peace of mind really. Just gone 5:00 am here Tuesday, the birds (the parrot variety as well as the carnivores like our magpies, butcher birds, kookaburras etc) will be visiting soon. 😀. Gorgeous morning after the rain. God is good!! Take care!
it is should be called A War of Common Sense: Adhere to the Constitution,
no Lobbying, no giving money to foreign governments
and no scamming the 2014 Ukraine Elections
That would make sense back in the day. With today's diet of processed garbage and an overload of pharmaceuticals in people's bodies I wouldn't want to eat those crops.
Anything pharmaceutical naturally degrades over time from exposure to heat, light, water, oxygen, etc. That's organic chem 101, and it's why some drugs have short shelf lives while others have long ones and why some drugs come in brown bottles.
Take any pharmaceutical you excrete as waste and put it in the natural environment. Not only is it exposed to all of the above that I mentioned, but also to a mix of bacteria which also may absorb and break it down. Only exceptionally stable molecules will concentrate (think: DDT, for example). These have unique chemistry and I cannot think of many examples where such molecules are used in pharmacy, though there are some. We have special handling rules for those.
If they get past all of the normal physical, chemical, and biological processes that would rip those molecules to shreds, there is another barrier. You have to get it through the roots' cell walls into the plant. Plants, like animals are specific about what they absorb into their cells.
The point is that I'd want to see actual proof that they're actually finding concentrations of these molecules in plants in meaningful concentrations before I'm going to jump up and down worrying about it. We need to be eating more fresh fruits and veggies, generally, not less. Healthy diet = healthy immune system so we avoid needing pharma in the first place.
Humanure is fine around any food you are going to boil or deep fry. It can also be used safely on any vegetable if composted for a long enough time to kill the bacteria. "Night soil" has been used throughout history as a fertlizer, and its limitations are well understood. If it is the only fertlizer you have access to, there is no reason to fear it.
I eat at trusted local independent restaurants and have simple foods on the few instances where I go out to eat. I have never been out for "drinks." I have never drunk an alcoholic beverage.
BTW, most soft drinks use purified water, as fluoride and other impurities in tap water affect the taste. I used to work at a Pepsi bottler, and they had their own water purification plant out back. They couldn't use plain tap water.
During the very cold Ukraine winter, just go on the frozen ground. The poop will freeze instantly... and by Spring, some hungry animal will have eaten it.
Also, I lived off the grid for fourteen years, and my legs got nice and strong from deep squatting over a hole, every day. It is not a hardship, except for I would be putting up some visual barriers around the 'long drop'. Some bagged lime is also nice, to keep down the smell, but I guess freezing conditions will help with that.
Some camp grounds on the East Coast of New Zealand have them, because there is no running water in the sand-dunes.
In the bitter cold, one would prolly try to roll the thermal underwear just enough, and have a hot water bottle ready to warm up one's behind afterwards...
I keep a hole in me pocket,...for emergencies...
Ringo Starr. Watch out for those Blue Meanies! (How obvious are they now? Once you know, you know.)
I don't have to worry. I have an outhouse in my back yard. I just need to dig a hole to place it over. It's a two-seater, with a smaller hole for children so they won't fall in. It still has a roll of TP in it from back in the 50s or 60s when it was last used.
I also know how to operate it so there's little to no smell or health hazard.
I'm also in the country, so I currently have my own septic system. If the water supply stops, I can flush the toilet with buckets of water.
You know, it's probably not a bad idea to bring back the outhouse.
For emergencies.
They are simple to build. The dirt from the hole is beside the outhouse, and you shovel some dirt in the hole after using the outhouse. A bag of lime also helps. When the hole is full, it's time to dig a new hole and move the outhouse over it.
There is something about having your own plot of land - and all that includes alternative lighting, a water supply independent from the town water - an outback toilet etc especially in these times. Peace of mind.
And. A little bit of vintage Aussie music - around 1940s+ 😀 We have to be very careful of the old red back. Nasty bite.
https://youtu.be/TjDAiq2-xeU
The reason our outhouse hasn't been used in so long, and there's a bathroom in the house now, is that my wife's grandfather was bit by a black widow spider in it and had to go to the hospital.
I like vintage music, mostly American, from the 1970s back to 100 years ago. I have a huge collection. I need to get the spring repaired in the old Victrola and dust off the Edison cylinder player and see if it still works.
We can collect rainwater, but I'd like to drill a new well. There was one here before, and we still have a point and drive handle. Stored in the outhouse for now.
We are at the point we could stop leaving home for two years or more.
Is that "red backed spider" like the black widow spider?
In Australia, every new home - going back 15 years must have a water tank installed and it must not be under a certain size. Your grey water to toilets and laundry must come from there. We have a tank on a stand and it’s there just in case as our home is 50 years old. We had a storm last night and when it’s full it diverts the roof water down the gutter and it ends up out to sea. Our useless politicians should be building dams as from now on our north are in the ‘wet season’ and that rainwater is wasted. I’m all for water storage. We could do much in our outback and make it bloom but for some reason it’s desert and wasted.
The redback and black widow are related - except our little mongrels have the red stripe. They can kill a child it not taken to hospital but their bite is dreadfully painful and requires a stint in hospital. Our bad spider in the Funellweb spider. Every hospital has access to its antivenin. They will kill in a very short time. Horrible looking too. Those that live around Sydney with sandstone rock in their gardens, must protect themselves outside. Often people will wake up to dozens in their swimming pools and there is a special unit at one of the major hospitals that collect the spiders if people come across them and this is where the antivenin is made.
While we are on a large block of land but have been preppers for 15 years? It’s peace of mind really. Just gone 5:00 am here Tuesday, the birds (the parrot variety as well as the carnivores like our magpies, butcher birds, kookaburras etc) will be visiting soon. 😀. Gorgeous morning after the rain. God is good!! Take care!
maybe we should stop calling this a 'war'
it is should be called A War of Common Sense: Adhere to the Constitution, no Lobbying, no giving money to foreign governments and no scamming the 2014 Ukraine Elections
Like we used to...use it as fertiliser for crops
That would make sense back in the day. With today's diet of processed garbage and an overload of pharmaceuticals in people's bodies I wouldn't want to eat those crops.
Plants are resilient. Consider:
Anything pharmaceutical naturally degrades over time from exposure to heat, light, water, oxygen, etc. That's organic chem 101, and it's why some drugs have short shelf lives while others have long ones and why some drugs come in brown bottles.
Take any pharmaceutical you excrete as waste and put it in the natural environment. Not only is it exposed to all of the above that I mentioned, but also to a mix of bacteria which also may absorb and break it down. Only exceptionally stable molecules will concentrate (think: DDT, for example). These have unique chemistry and I cannot think of many examples where such molecules are used in pharmacy, though there are some. We have special handling rules for those.
If they get past all of the normal physical, chemical, and biological processes that would rip those molecules to shreds, there is another barrier. You have to get it through the roots' cell walls into the plant. Plants, like animals are specific about what they absorb into their cells.
The point is that I'd want to see actual proof that they're actually finding concentrations of these molecules in plants in meaningful concentrations before I'm going to jump up and down worrying about it. We need to be eating more fresh fruits and veggies, generally, not less. Healthy diet = healthy immune system so we avoid needing pharma in the first place.
Experts advise against using human waste around food crops. It's okay for your flowers and shrubs.
Humanure is fine around any food you are going to boil or deep fry. It can also be used safely on any vegetable if composted for a long enough time to kill the bacteria. "Night soil" has been used throughout history as a fertlizer, and its limitations are well understood. If it is the only fertlizer you have access to, there is no reason to fear it.
Experts? Or men selling fertilisers?
Lots of countries still using human waste and urine.....
And those "lots of countries" have a big mortality rate.
Other manures are better for food crops, both green and brown. Cow and chicken manure are good, as well as compost.
I don't use fertilizer at all in my garden.
Well they are eating chemicals an d fluoride and get vaxxed just the same as us so that's your argument out the window
I don't see your point. I'm not part of that "us" you're talking about either. No shots or tap water at all.
Never go out for meals or drinks..c.mon!!!
I eat at trusted local independent restaurants and have simple foods on the few instances where I go out to eat. I have never been out for "drinks." I have never drunk an alcoholic beverage.
BTW, most soft drinks use purified water, as fluoride and other impurities in tap water affect the taste. I used to work at a Pepsi bottler, and they had their own water purification plant out back. They couldn't use plain tap water.
Xelp, my turrd is climbing out!
During the very cold Ukraine winter, just go on the frozen ground. The poop will freeze instantly... and by Spring, some hungry animal will have eaten it.
Well if the ground is frozen, you would soil your pants before you got to dig the hole 😳.
They said nothing about digging a hole. Just poop on the group. Pretend you're on a street in San Francisco. :)
Also, I lived off the grid for fourteen years, and my legs got nice and strong from deep squatting over a hole, every day. It is not a hardship, except for I would be putting up some visual barriers around the 'long drop'. Some bagged lime is also nice, to keep down the smell, but I guess freezing conditions will help with that.
Some camp grounds on the East Coast of New Zealand have them, because there is no running water in the sand-dunes.
In the bitter cold, one would prolly try to roll the thermal underwear just enough, and have a hot water bottle ready to warm up one's behind afterwards...
We have to look out for redbacks in our dunnies. 😂
Go ahead and flush...(as long as you live above the second floor)