Here is another way to thinking about it: Having seen how the progressivism has used and abused peoples ideas of equality and freedom to push us to the brink, how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way?
I believe this is basically what the Christianity set out to do, after Jesus exposed the bankers doing pretty similar to what they are doing today, and tried to codify simple rules that would keep the future generations safe.
If I have to choose between Dungeons and Dragons or Keeping kids safe from the Satanists, I would chose the latter any day. It's not a solution, but a compromise.
how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way
As Dr Ron Paul famously has said: you cannot legislate morality. Morality comes from within.
Consider the 10 commandments. Careful consideration of these laws, of which many still cling without a thought, reveals that these are property laws. Do not kill, is eared towards the meaning of honoring the other's life. Do not steal is geared towards honoring another's property. But that goes for do not commit adultery, do not covet, honor thy parents, even keep holy the sabbath is honoring a property right. Lying or bearing false witness, destroys the good name of someone else: i.e. property right.
Taking all these things in as a whole, we, ourselves, are the embodiment of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It encompasses everything, including to treat others the way we want to be treated or to do for others what we wish they'd do for us.
George Washington' s farewell address practically gives answers to your question: how to "how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way?"
It depends on what we set as an example.
To a degree the freedom loving man is always in a disadvantageous position in relation to the oppressor wannebe. It is more difficult to organize freedom loving people than it is to organize those who willingly separated themselves from their freedom to follow the rule of just one man, or a small group of men with an agenda.
As Reagan said: freedom is not passed to the next generation.
It is our determination on the red line beyond which they shall not go, that eventually will save the day. That red line, that precipice is ours to decide.
Saving the Republic, saving the basis on which this Republic stands, is our inheritance. (a word closely related to, heredity and heretic: to choose)
In a way, betraying that basis, is basically betraying ourselves.
one thing is clear though: parents must be in the driver seat when it comes to the education of their offspring, and determinative on what is being taught to their kids.
Freedom, or even nature for that matter, always takes it sweat time.
The argument against oppression is an argument for freedom, BUT there is no freedom without responsibility.
And, if God exists, then the decision as to what is one's responsibility or not is not purely a matter for self-choice. It is, in its initial and root form, God defined.
The real challenge of history is to find those definitions that are God's, and we do that by ever increasingly resonating conceptualizations.
This is what I think BB is or was getting to. What God defines as responsible human living is expressed, whether imperfectly or perfectly, to the highest available degree in the Christian teaching, as an expression of the thought of Christ. (I am of the belief that the expression is not perfect in one sense, but it is better than anything else. Thus, the expression is merely a stepping stone to the source).
Codify does not necessarily mean codify in a legal sense. It can (and in BB's case, I believe does- correct me if I'm wrong BB) mean simply to enunciate in concentrated form that allows the information to be brought together into an integrated system of codes, or principles, as guiding designations as opposed to legal imperatives.
Hmmm. Not familiar with Washington's address. But I plead innocence; not a US citizen or resident.
But going off topic for a bit, something you wrote caught my attention:
To a degree the freedom loving man is always in a disadvantageous position in relation to the oppressor wannebe.
This is wholly my own religious belief, but the way I see it, human history is the history of the conflict between good and evil. This is why scripture starts with the creation of the universe (sets the stage) but then describes the start of history as the fall of man. From a scriptural viewpoint, this was the start of history, and the history described by scripture and also encompassing the 2000 years since the time of the New Testament is one of the process of Good working to overcome Evil.
Because of the starting point, evil has for all of history had the upper hand. However, good has worked to carve out its beachhead, expand its territory, more and more and more. The territory is the heart of humanity.
IN this view, today we are at the consummation of human history. This represents a cross-over point, where evil is losing its upperhand long held, and good is rising into the upper hand position.
Thus, while evil ruled, then indeed, the freedom loving man has always been in a disadvantageous position. And that's because evil has also functioned as a handbrake on the true power of the universe - unselfish love. But in this changing era, and as the transition becomes more and more apparent, then I believe (with reason, but still believe) that the freedom loving man will come to always be in a position of advantage over the oppressor wannabe. Because the positions will have changed, and the power of the universal law will be unleashed to uphold good.
Hope that makes some sense.
Sorry for the divergence. Long story short, that's how I see things are today, and in that sense, the Great Awakening is also the manifestation of that transition. Formerly, evil has ALWAYS had the advantage, the upper hand. Anything God did, was an encroachment on Evil's territory. Such as the founding of the USA.
But when the positions are switched, good will become an unstoppable force, and anything evil does will be a rear-guard attack, always losing ground, always attempting to hold onto the formerly held 'upper hand', but steadily losing.
Don't we see that reality in the world around us today? I surely do. I surely do.
All that is fine and dandy, but the concrete question is not about morality. Its about how do you codify the does and donts to ensure the future generations do not get seduced into the abyss?
It has to be something people can remember easily - 5 generations from now, having only a vague idea of the true history of these times.
Having seen how the progressivism has used and abused peoples ideas of equality and freedom to push us to the brink, how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way?
Yes, you posed that question with reason. Framed like this it indeed fuels the need for codification.
I am not a doer of wrong to men.
I am not one who telleth lies instead of truth.
I am not a teller of tales.
I cause not famine.
I cause not weeping.
I am not a murderer.
I give no orders for murder.
I reduce not the offerings in the temples.
I lessen not the cakes of the gods.
I rob not the dead of their funeral food.
I tamper not with the tongue of the balance.
I snatch not the milk from the mouth of babes.
I drive not the cattle from their pastures.
I net not the birds of the manors of the gods.
I catch not the fish of their ponds.
I stop not the water at its appointed time.
I divide not an arm of the water in its course.
I am not fraudulent in measures of grain.
I am not sluggish.
I am not an eavesdropper.
I am not one of prating tongue.
I trouble not myself except with my own affairs.
I commit not adultery.
I am not hot of speech.
I lend not a deaf ear to the words of righteousness.
I am not given to cursing.
I put no check upon the water in its flow.
I have no unjust preferences.
I have no strong desire except for my own property.
This is an ancient codification from the Book of the Dead, judgement. Refraining from doing something as opposed to the encouragement to do something. Each of the above lines has a positive antipode.
Yet, again, history teaches that it is easily forgotten. The toils of man to exit are such that the real values and virtues are often forgotten. Fortitude and being upright give way to compromise and submission, courage to cowardice, truth to lie, honesty to deceit, principle to political expediency.
So, how do you codify?
People of every civilization have often kept their stories in tact, over thousands of years. any of these stories have several layers: Musement, morality, deeper spiritual truths.
When I read Massey's book: Egypt, the light of the world, it became quite obvious how easy things are forgotten, when stories no longer reverberate, but are nothing more than myths with no relevance for today. An even "modern" developments destroying the tribal cohesion, or national cohesion, changes the very stories that kept culture alive, to the dustbin of marxist cancel culture.
Some of these myths are rehashed and staged in a form and manner that totally subverts and destroys it's meaning, inducing faulty views. (think Hollywood)
Perhaps this ebb and flood of is also a manifestation of humanity. In the 1200 new ideals were "discovered". Die Nibelungen is one such tale.
Perhaps in the same vein: The Lord of the Rings, is a modern tale containing the same type of codes.
If I have to choose between Dungeons and Dragons or Keeping kids safe from the Satanists, I would chose the latter any day. It's not a solution, but a compromise.
I think you know this, but.. we only have to choose for ourselves and our families. My wife wasn't allowed to listen to most music or watch most movies as a kid. She has never seen an episode of "friends." Some parents may think it's ok for their kids to watch "friends." Some may not. Parenting works; no banning of D&D is necessary.
The fact is, we were living in a world of darkness where the nature of reality was hidden from us. Those who knew we were being driven into the abyss had a really hard time stopping it. They had to pick between letting this slow crash happen, or suppressing their own kids from what they believed were their freedoms. There were no easy answer. There still aren't, and hopefully after the awakening the answers will become easier.
I think D&D is just an example. But think about it - most D&D games have nothing to do with dungeons, and yet its named as such. Why is that?
As for Friends or almost any other TV show - they all have so much propaganda embedded into them in such subtle ways, it changes who we are without even realising how. The solution is definitely not to ban it, but to throw light on it and its not easy to do. At least we are now learning how to do it, but our parents and previous generations didn't have this luxury.
I myself grew up in a house where I was not allowed to watch American shows or music (Our TV did not even get those). I felt like I missed a lot. In my 20s I watched a whole lot of all that stuff. Now that I understand the truth about MK Ultra (yeah it was not limited to CIA dungeons, but it was pervasive through main stream media) and I understand how this propaganda works, I have pretty much lost interest in most shows and music I used to listen. I can now see that it's truly satanic and yet I used to feel oppressed when I was young for being stopped from listening to these.
Again, when it comes to parenting, there are no easy answers. The anti-humanists have made it pretty much a choice between willingly send your kind into the arms of the Evil, or make them feel traumatised and lose them.
Added: One undeniable fact, regardless of which parenting is effective or how oppression religions are - if the Americans specifically did not have the so called "Bible Belt", we would have been at the abyss long long ago.
Agreed about the Bible Belt and almost everything else except that parents will lose their children if they shield them from bad influences. Didn't happen with my wife, at least, so it's doable, if done right. After she moved out, she rebelled a tiny bit. Bought a Marilyn Manson CD (lol). But the benefit outweighed the harm overall and she gets along well with her parents.
Happy to hear about your wife. I know kids who completely quit talking to their parents after they got older. I guess it depends on the kid and the influences they come under.
Here is another way to thinking about it: Having seen how the progressivism has used and abused peoples ideas of equality and freedom to push us to the brink, how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way?
I believe this is basically what the Christianity set out to do, after Jesus exposed the bankers doing pretty similar to what they are doing today, and tried to codify simple rules that would keep the future generations safe.
If I have to choose between Dungeons and Dragons or Keeping kids safe from the Satanists, I would chose the latter any day. It's not a solution, but a compromise.
As Dr Ron Paul famously has said: you cannot legislate morality. Morality comes from within.
Consider the 10 commandments. Careful consideration of these laws, of which many still cling without a thought, reveals that these are property laws. Do not kill, is eared towards the meaning of honoring the other's life. Do not steal is geared towards honoring another's property. But that goes for do not commit adultery, do not covet, honor thy parents, even keep holy the sabbath is honoring a property right. Lying or bearing false witness, destroys the good name of someone else: i.e. property right.
Taking all these things in as a whole, we, ourselves, are the embodiment of the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It encompasses everything, including to treat others the way we want to be treated or to do for others what we wish they'd do for us.
George Washington' s farewell address practically gives answers to your question: how to "how would you codify in a set of rules that would prevent the future generations from being taken advantage of the same way?"
It depends on what we set as an example.
To a degree the freedom loving man is always in a disadvantageous position in relation to the oppressor wannebe. It is more difficult to organize freedom loving people than it is to organize those who willingly separated themselves from their freedom to follow the rule of just one man, or a small group of men with an agenda.
As Reagan said: freedom is not passed to the next generation.
It is our determination on the red line beyond which they shall not go, that eventually will save the day. That red line, that precipice is ours to decide.
Saving the Republic, saving the basis on which this Republic stands, is our inheritance. (a word closely related to, heredity and heretic: to choose)
In a way, betraying that basis, is basically betraying ourselves.
one thing is clear though: parents must be in the driver seat when it comes to the education of their offspring, and determinative on what is being taught to their kids.
Freedom, or even nature for that matter, always takes it sweat time.
The argument against oppression is an argument for freedom, BUT there is no freedom without responsibility.
And, if God exists, then the decision as to what is one's responsibility or not is not purely a matter for self-choice. It is, in its initial and root form, God defined.
The real challenge of history is to find those definitions that are God's, and we do that by ever increasingly resonating conceptualizations.
This is what I think BB is or was getting to. What God defines as responsible human living is expressed, whether imperfectly or perfectly, to the highest available degree in the Christian teaching, as an expression of the thought of Christ. (I am of the belief that the expression is not perfect in one sense, but it is better than anything else. Thus, the expression is merely a stepping stone to the source).
Codify does not necessarily mean codify in a legal sense. It can (and in BB's case, I believe does- correct me if I'm wrong BB) mean simply to enunciate in concentrated form that allows the information to be brought together into an integrated system of codes, or principles, as guiding designations as opposed to legal imperatives.
As I appreciate code, it is a language descriptive of something, a set of symbols with a message.
I belief we already have these.
i still keep coming back to Washington' s 1793 address. We have the code. Now we need to be knowledgeable of it, and the fortitude to apply it.
Hmmm. Not familiar with Washington's address. But I plead innocence; not a US citizen or resident.
But going off topic for a bit, something you wrote caught my attention:
This is wholly my own religious belief, but the way I see it, human history is the history of the conflict between good and evil. This is why scripture starts with the creation of the universe (sets the stage) but then describes the start of history as the fall of man. From a scriptural viewpoint, this was the start of history, and the history described by scripture and also encompassing the 2000 years since the time of the New Testament is one of the process of Good working to overcome Evil.
Because of the starting point, evil has for all of history had the upper hand. However, good has worked to carve out its beachhead, expand its territory, more and more and more. The territory is the heart of humanity.
IN this view, today we are at the consummation of human history. This represents a cross-over point, where evil is losing its upperhand long held, and good is rising into the upper hand position.
Thus, while evil ruled, then indeed, the freedom loving man has always been in a disadvantageous position. And that's because evil has also functioned as a handbrake on the true power of the universe - unselfish love. But in this changing era, and as the transition becomes more and more apparent, then I believe (with reason, but still believe) that the freedom loving man will come to always be in a position of advantage over the oppressor wannabe. Because the positions will have changed, and the power of the universal law will be unleashed to uphold good.
Hope that makes some sense.
Sorry for the divergence. Long story short, that's how I see things are today, and in that sense, the Great Awakening is also the manifestation of that transition. Formerly, evil has ALWAYS had the advantage, the upper hand. Anything God did, was an encroachment on Evil's territory. Such as the founding of the USA.
But when the positions are switched, good will become an unstoppable force, and anything evil does will be a rear-guard attack, always losing ground, always attempting to hold onto the formerly held 'upper hand', but steadily losing.
Don't we see that reality in the world around us today? I surely do. I surely do.
All that is fine and dandy, but the concrete question is not about morality. Its about how do you codify the does and donts to ensure the future generations do not get seduced into the abyss?
It has to be something people can remember easily - 5 generations from now, having only a vague idea of the true history of these times.
Yes, you posed that question with reason. Framed like this it indeed fuels the need for codification.
This is an ancient codification from the Book of the Dead, judgement. Refraining from doing something as opposed to the encouragement to do something. Each of the above lines has a positive antipode.
Yet, again, history teaches that it is easily forgotten. The toils of man to exit are such that the real values and virtues are often forgotten. Fortitude and being upright give way to compromise and submission, courage to cowardice, truth to lie, honesty to deceit, principle to political expediency.
So, how do you codify?
People of every civilization have often kept their stories in tact, over thousands of years. any of these stories have several layers: Musement, morality, deeper spiritual truths.
When I read Massey's book: Egypt, the light of the world, it became quite obvious how easy things are forgotten, when stories no longer reverberate, but are nothing more than myths with no relevance for today. An even "modern" developments destroying the tribal cohesion, or national cohesion, changes the very stories that kept culture alive, to the dustbin of marxist cancel culture.
Some of these myths are rehashed and staged in a form and manner that totally subverts and destroys it's meaning, inducing faulty views. (think Hollywood)
Perhaps this ebb and flood of is also a manifestation of humanity. In the 1200 new ideals were "discovered". Die Nibelungen is one such tale.
Perhaps in the same vein: The Lord of the Rings, is a modern tale containing the same type of codes.
I think you know this, but.. we only have to choose for ourselves and our families. My wife wasn't allowed to listen to most music or watch most movies as a kid. She has never seen an episode of "friends." Some parents may think it's ok for their kids to watch "friends." Some may not. Parenting works; no banning of D&D is necessary.
The fact is, we were living in a world of darkness where the nature of reality was hidden from us. Those who knew we were being driven into the abyss had a really hard time stopping it. They had to pick between letting this slow crash happen, or suppressing their own kids from what they believed were their freedoms. There were no easy answer. There still aren't, and hopefully after the awakening the answers will become easier.
I think D&D is just an example. But think about it - most D&D games have nothing to do with dungeons, and yet its named as such. Why is that?
As for Friends or almost any other TV show - they all have so much propaganda embedded into them in such subtle ways, it changes who we are without even realising how. The solution is definitely not to ban it, but to throw light on it and its not easy to do. At least we are now learning how to do it, but our parents and previous generations didn't have this luxury.
I myself grew up in a house where I was not allowed to watch American shows or music (Our TV did not even get those). I felt like I missed a lot. In my 20s I watched a whole lot of all that stuff. Now that I understand the truth about MK Ultra (yeah it was not limited to CIA dungeons, but it was pervasive through main stream media) and I understand how this propaganda works, I have pretty much lost interest in most shows and music I used to listen. I can now see that it's truly satanic and yet I used to feel oppressed when I was young for being stopped from listening to these.
Again, when it comes to parenting, there are no easy answers. The anti-humanists have made it pretty much a choice between willingly send your kind into the arms of the Evil, or make them feel traumatised and lose them.
Added: One undeniable fact, regardless of which parenting is effective or how oppression religions are - if the Americans specifically did not have the so called "Bible Belt", we would have been at the abyss long long ago.
Agreed about the Bible Belt and almost everything else except that parents will lose their children if they shield them from bad influences. Didn't happen with my wife, at least, so it's doable, if done right. After she moved out, she rebelled a tiny bit. Bought a Marilyn Manson CD (lol). But the benefit outweighed the harm overall and she gets along well with her parents.
Happy to hear about your wife. I know kids who completely quit talking to their parents after they got older. I guess it depends on the kid and the influences they come under.