Honestly, understanding the true play here regarding Russia and Putin is far more advanced knowledge than most people, even slightly red pilled people can handle.
I would agree its best to hide your power level from most people.
It's astonishing how in sync y'all and the commie boards are with this issue. Communists give the same arguments for Russia's right to Ukraine as they do for China's right to Nepal, and Taiwan, and Hong Kong's soul as well as its land and whatever else China wants. But thought here generally seems to be for landmasses being independent of China.
I raise this not as any point, but as a matter of interest. What is it about Russia? Is it just a weird combination of admiration for an iron-handed Christian capitalist leader on one side and nostalgia for Communism's glory days on the other? Or is there something else?
It's not the same argument at all. If you look at the DPR and the LPR, these people have now fought for 8 long ass years for the right to leave Ukraine and join Russia. You can't chalk that up to a rigged referendum. They have suffered mightily, bled, and died to make the will of their people clear. 15,000+ of them have been killed in the fighting. The US was founded in a similar war.
A slightly weaker argument can be made for Crimea. Crimea was seized 8 years ago, but without the violent revolution. Crimea simply voted to join Russia. Now, the question of a rigged referendum arises, but we have a proxy to answer that question. Have we seen a rise in protests, crime, sabotage, or other subversive activities? Have we seen a Resistance like in Vichy France? Not at all! It has been quite peaceful. It is clear the Crimean people wanted to join Russia.
We have two other provinces: Kherson and Zaparozhia in question. They, too, voted to join Russia. And again, we get the same narrative about rigging the referenda. We don't have as much time to answer the question as we have with Crimea. I'm not familiar with any widespread resistance movement, but the wartime propaganda makes finding such things out with certainty difficult. Only the future will tell, but I strongly suspect the way Poroshchenko and now Zelensky have embraced Ukrainian nationalism and been absolutely vile to Ukrainians of Russian heritage that they'd be happy to leave that government which seems to despise them and join the Russians who treat them as brothers and fellow Russians.
However, to compare what has been done in Ukraine to Nepal or Taiwan is totally inadequate. It's an apples to oranges situation when you get to the details. The fact that you still think Russia is communist betrays some pretty intense ignorance about the current situation, so I can only suggest reading more and a wider variety of sources before giving your learned opinion.
Thats a pretty huge leap of assumption from "Ukraine is not a real country" to "Russia has rights to Ukraine".
Just to be clear, my statement was meant to indicate that Ukraine had a Cabal coup in 2014 and does not really have a real democratic government, but rather a TV star running a fake government whose real control is from DC.
As for Russia - its a separate question. If you cannot see the role Putin is playing in this Battle, after being here all this time and reading all the discussions we have had, no one can change your mind, and you are welcome to your opinion.
This is precisely what the Tankies have said about this exact issue, but with "deep state" traded out for "The West".
Idk what both y'all groups have against what to me seems the eminently reasonable position of "invasions are bad AND proxy wars are bad". Why does there always have to be someone who's in the right? That so rarely is the case for governments, that it seems insane to expect that.
Probably the old cold war mindset of Russia bad. Also probably the mindset of we did good work in Mogadishu, and that we should have interfered in the Hutu/Tutsi civil war.
Hell, there are supposed "conservatives" on Free Republic, whom I now believe to be either paid shills or hacked accounts, that wholeheartedly support Ukraine and their dancing faggot actor "president."
"Paid shills"./psyop agents are on every internet site and have been for some time. They observe then infiltrate. Wolves in "sheep" camo so they blend in.. Using persuasion lingo: join/pace/lead.....astray.
It's astonishing that so many people believe Ukraine is a real country.
I told my friend that I was Rootin for Putin and she told me I'd better not tell anyone that. hahahaha BRAINWASHED
Honestly, understanding the true play here regarding Russia and Putin is far more advanced knowledge than most people, even slightly red pilled people can handle.
I would agree its best to hide your power level from most people.
hahahaha that's a very smart perspective!
Maybe not brainwashed, more so to tell you not to so people don't gang up on you. You know how the left is with people that don't agree with them.
That's how I took it too.
It's astonishing how in sync y'all and the commie boards are with this issue. Communists give the same arguments for Russia's right to Ukraine as they do for China's right to Nepal, and Taiwan, and Hong Kong's soul as well as its land and whatever else China wants. But thought here generally seems to be for landmasses being independent of China.
I raise this not as any point, but as a matter of interest. What is it about Russia? Is it just a weird combination of admiration for an iron-handed Christian capitalist leader on one side and nostalgia for Communism's glory days on the other? Or is there something else?
Politics!
It's not the same argument at all. If you look at the DPR and the LPR, these people have now fought for 8 long ass years for the right to leave Ukraine and join Russia. You can't chalk that up to a rigged referendum. They have suffered mightily, bled, and died to make the will of their people clear. 15,000+ of them have been killed in the fighting. The US was founded in a similar war.
A slightly weaker argument can be made for Crimea. Crimea was seized 8 years ago, but without the violent revolution. Crimea simply voted to join Russia. Now, the question of a rigged referendum arises, but we have a proxy to answer that question. Have we seen a rise in protests, crime, sabotage, or other subversive activities? Have we seen a Resistance like in Vichy France? Not at all! It has been quite peaceful. It is clear the Crimean people wanted to join Russia.
We have two other provinces: Kherson and Zaparozhia in question. They, too, voted to join Russia. And again, we get the same narrative about rigging the referenda. We don't have as much time to answer the question as we have with Crimea. I'm not familiar with any widespread resistance movement, but the wartime propaganda makes finding such things out with certainty difficult. Only the future will tell, but I strongly suspect the way Poroshchenko and now Zelensky have embraced Ukrainian nationalism and been absolutely vile to Ukrainians of Russian heritage that they'd be happy to leave that government which seems to despise them and join the Russians who treat them as brothers and fellow Russians.
However, to compare what has been done in Ukraine to Nepal or Taiwan is totally inadequate. It's an apples to oranges situation when you get to the details. The fact that you still think Russia is communist betrays some pretty intense ignorance about the current situation, so I can only suggest reading more and a wider variety of sources before giving your learned opinion.
It's kind of funny that leftists are always in an uproar about "rigged elections" when they don't like the results.
Where on Earth did I say Russia was still communist???
Thats a pretty huge leap of assumption from "Ukraine is not a real country" to "Russia has rights to Ukraine".
Just to be clear, my statement was meant to indicate that Ukraine had a Cabal coup in 2014 and does not really have a real democratic government, but rather a TV star running a fake government whose real control is from DC.
As for Russia - its a separate question. If you cannot see the role Putin is playing in this Battle, after being here all this time and reading all the discussions we have had, no one can change your mind, and you are welcome to your opinion.
Easy test if you should root for Russia or Ukraine: who does the deep state support. Who does the deep state hate. End of test.
Succinct and to the point.
This is precisely what the Tankies have said about this exact issue, but with "deep state" traded out for "The West".
Idk what both y'all groups have against what to me seems the eminently reasonable position of "invasions are bad AND proxy wars are bad". Why does there always have to be someone who's in the right? That so rarely is the case for governments, that it seems insane to expect that.
Probably the old cold war mindset of Russia bad. Also probably the mindset of we did good work in Mogadishu, and that we should have interfered in the Hutu/Tutsi civil war.
Hell, there are supposed "conservatives" on Free Republic, whom I now believe to be either paid shills or hacked accounts, that wholeheartedly support Ukraine and their dancing faggot actor "president."
"Paid shills"./psyop agents are on every internet site and have been for some time. They observe then infiltrate. Wolves in "sheep" camo so they blend in.. Using persuasion lingo: join/pace/lead.....astray.