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Does not need to be Q related.
Apologies to the board. Haven't been tracking GAW hard for a few days (a good thing now and then, right?). And then I come here to .... vent? Erg.
But I logged in today to see a post by undine53 (whose posts I often notice and like a lot, so this is no flame job here) which totally rates my cheese:
<engage rant mode>
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqPZDUN7/putin-announces-total-independen/c/
I immediately recognized the source website from an article that u/penisse posts about 12 days ago.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZXa5aDha/cia-threat-list-names-8-million-/
CIA “Threat List”: Names 8 MILLION AMERICANS Who WILL BE DETAINED or EXECUTED When MARTIAL LAW Is Imposed
Kudos to penisse that he tags the subject line with the question "are these people credible?"
I suspect that penisse's diligence in attaching the question to the post resulted in pedes approaching the content with caution and the post itself only garnering 22 upvotes.
unlike the post by undine above, which at time of writing has some 223 upvotes and is on the HOT list just under the stickies.
There are so many things OBVIOUSLY wrong with the source here, that shortly after red flags were raised in my mind by the sensationalist, fear porn-ish and clickbaitish content of the headline, a quick 2 or 3 minutes examining the source website revealed heaps of things that immediately reinforced the initial impression. 5 minutes would be way overkill in attempting to evaluate and look for anything suggesting the website and content should be given anything by a fart in the wind:
Consider:
clickbait-ish headlines, visibly designed to grab (undiscerning) patriot, truthseeker or anon attention
Grandiose sounding name : AMERICAN MEDIA GROUP, when ALL the posts are by one single person
Dodgy-sounding name with what very much looks like a stock photo: Medeea Greere
Scam money grabbing links embedded directly in to each "news article"
Links leading to
Trump diamond checks
https://patriotsfuture.com/trumpdiamondbuck/?hop=medeea23
NSA chakra experiments that will activate your wealth DNA to attract money to you effortlessly. Seriously?
https://wealthdnacode.com/vsl/index_ctrl.php
Golden Patriot TRB checks (with obligatory images of DJT and blurbs about how DJT loves all patriots and directly implying these "checks" are related to or sourced from him).
https://www.goldenpatriotsfuture.com/?hop=medeea23
With apologies for the long gripe, here's my real rant;
How on earth does a post (from a reputable contributor, alas) that directly sources and links to such an obviously scam website get 223 upvotes, with little work at vetting, checking, attempts to validate or even dig... on GAW? (must recognize the pedes who question the content etc in the comments, although .... sadly ... they are downvoted?????? cheese louise
That really grates my cheese. Shouldn't the GAW collective be the people who expose and shoot down this sort of nonsense and exploitative content, instead of promoting it and thereby actually supporting it?
People who run these websites are the WORST kind of scum, as they exploit people's desire for truth, hope or relief. To my mind, they are the very worst form of grifters, up there with the people who do exactly the same thing but on a very large scale: the Pharmaceutical cos, the deep state, the media etc.
The only saving grace of this sort of lowlife website operator is that they are so small in stature. But in terms of quality or intent, are they any different from the cabal that just ran the global scam on humanity int he form of Covid19 scamdemic?
Please, GAW pedes. Please be discerning. Please learn to recognize simple red flags that easily lead to a very quick review that reveals actual truth behind the fiction. It's not that hard.
Learn to be aware of how sensationalism triggers your emotional responses. Be aware that there are people (lol, vermin?) out there willing and investing effort to run direct scams on us and the people we are attempting to wake up, and use that awareness when engaging with sensational content.
Do due diligence. Q will be proud.
For easy reference, my comment to undine's post below. u/undine, I love so much of your posting, but you really dropped the ball on this one. Not even a "are these people credible" in the subject line to give pedes a heads up. ;.;
<end rant mode>
Oh, and have a powerful, potent 2023, frens.
https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqPZDUN7/x/c/4Toippxdlm5
I would not trust any single thing written up by this website. Total scam grifters.
Are we so eager to hear what soothes are aching psyches that we latch on to whatever sounds good?
Websites like this mix truth and fiction, with one single purpose: to manipulate and enrich themselves
It is fake news grifting of the worst order. Imagine exploiting the name of Donald Trump in order to grift of gullible patriots or unthinking anons!~!!!!
<where is the vomiting emoji when you need it?>
Here is what they link to DIRECTLY (This is ONLY the first 3 links EMBEDDED in the "news article" (there are more))
https://wealthdnacode.com/vsl/index_ctrl.php
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Bait is attractive.
u/#excellentbait
That said, excellent comment. GAW worthy, imho.
Wow. I consider that high praise. Thankee
Glad you got that off your chest fren! I will make a note of this source as being dodgy: Being in the UK I don't have the same awareness and am still learning who is trustworthy. Posted this after a long day, so didn't scrutanise it as rigorously as I should have - me bad. My browser is not that good and there is a LOT of censorship, which makes checking harder. Lead me to the sackcloth and ashes!
P.S. Please let me know which other sources are unreliable and I will make a list of dodgy sites to avoid - thanks.
Thanks for the response. As I said, I am a fan of your contributions, U.
I don't know about geography and awareness; I'm not located in the US either.
I think that in information warfare, it's important, if not critical, to NOT take the approach of "who is trustworthy?" but RATHER "does this information have credibility?"
The former puts an emphasis and reliance on authority (even if it is trusted authority), whereas the latter places the emphasis on developing, building, and maintaining skills of discernment, capacity to analyse a variety of factors, and independence in thinking.
In turn, these two things (reliance on authority and development of skills and capacity) foster either 'other reliance and tendency to avoid responsibility' on one hand or 'self-reliance, a proactive attitude to taking and being responsible for what I do, choose to believe, and what impact I have' on the other.
That may be a lot to digest, but it speaks to the much larger issues of what kind of psychological mindset is actively fostered and exploited by the Cabal, and which played a big part in leading us to where we are today, vs. the kind of mindset and approach that is needed to extricate ourselves from that matrix and liberate us from the psychological thralldom they placed us in.
That said, there are a few points I want to emphasize here:
One, we've all made these kinds of mistakes. The longer you've been in the business of being anon, the more mistakes you've made and so the wiser (ideally) and more skilled you become. If you work at it. Been about 7 years + since I began seriously red-pilling, and I've been tracking Q since Around Dec 2017, so I think that counts. Through experience, my natural tendency to spot these things has been developed, For some, it's on the foundation of a lifetime of experience. Point is, we're all learning and it's by experience (mistakes and successes) that we actually learn. So welcome the mistakes!
Two, my rant was more about the response from the board than about your post itself. (See preceding point!) At some time or other, if you are trying to contribute, you're going to post a dud, or a bomb. But my rant aka lament was that a lot of the board looked at your post rather uncritically, didn't bother to vet it, process it, evaluate it, or dig. (not only my rant, there were a bunch of other comments to that effect, but anyway...). Point is, the real challenge I feel is how we (GAW) are acting as a collective. Sure, the collective is comprised of (and is more than the sum of) the individual board members, but even if as individuals we fumble sometimes, the collective is what in the end defines our overall direction.
Just clicking on something cos it sounds good, not really investing any effort to verify, evaluate, discern, that's not going to serve us as a whole. That was the issue that grates the cheese, so to speak.
Three, rather than developing a list of "trustworthy sites", develop a list, even a mental one, of things that should be red flags, or factors and things that should indicate care is to be taken, when engaging with information and sources of information.
Even "trustworthy" sources can make mistakes and can also be given bad info. Also, our intent should not be to have people "trust me" when I tell you about all this stuff I know (aka conspiracy theories, Q etc) but to inspire folks to learn to practice discernment and think for themselves. Thus, we have to do that ourselves if we are going to achieve that.
The factors I mentioned in my other post (here in case you missed it) are some simple great red flags that should give your pause. HOWEVER, as with any instrument, applying these takes practice, and there is no substitute for building up through practice skills and discernment. No substitute. Either you practice that stuff, and build your skills and discernment, or your don't.
Conclusion: thanks for the response. Keep on keeping on! So glad to have you here!!
I agree, feel like that myself at times but its no good being a martinet - we are only human, after all. As C5 said: frogs not gods.
Yes, he's a good bloke.
So nice to see respectful exchanges in situations like this👌
Time away well spent. Deserves it's own daytime post and, IMO, sticky. You know, when it's a slow BOOMs day.
Checks and balances. This is why we all put in so much work. Brothers in arms.
WWG1WGA
kekle.
Heheh. Thanks for the encouraging feedback. After I threw the above together, I had the same thought, and cobbled up a stand alone post, which a mod picked up and stickied.
Did you see it? https://greatawakening.win/p/16ZqPbRnho/scam-alert-american-media-group-/
The feedback from all this has inspired a bunch of ideas, which I'll let percolate. If you're keen, I'll drop a few your way once the brew is done.... O.o
wwg1
Grates my cheese too but I've been banned for being skeptical of people's favorite sources or favorite people so many times on this website I've given up being skeptical publicly for other people.
It's still a great site. Entertaining. Sometimes good information. Maybe still the best site on the internet.
But for me and alot of others, the culture here has changed and without a significant group discussion and change of leadership style -- I ain't intervening if people want to believe stupid shit on here.
I'm sick of being exciled for calling it out when 90% won't care what inconsistencies you point out they'll believe it they'll believe what they want anyway. And the other 10% ALREADY know and can't reallly do anything about it either. And you risk just getting erased or attacked.
Hell I even had someone attempt to dox me here for posting links to someone's favorite pay-triot grifters ongoing court docs in PACER to prove the guy was lying.
There's been a culture shift here. Maybe because of newbies. Maybe because egos. Maybe because fear or hopelessness of something. Maybe because of enemy infiltration. Probably not going to trend back to being dominated by quality research posts a d comments unless there's a major discussion about how to reverse this trend in a positive and constructive way coming from the top.
This is still the HQ of all things Q for me. But I have to say I see a lot more amazing research, critical takes, DIRECT sauce, AND an appetite for it on Truth Social these days than I do here -- despite them having an amazing amount of bullshit as well.
Probably unpopular opinion.
Someone is going to say I'm a hater and being too critical of GAW.
I can't help that. Still my favorite place on the internet. But still, this remains a part of my experience here.
Fren, your comment was the highlight of my GAW day. Seriously. Tone, spot on, attitude, checks out. Etc. Etc.
It got me thinking a lot. I even came up with some random brainstormy ideas that I might just pitch to the board community.
(On account of the fact that I tend to believe that there is no such thing as a perfect mod team, and that the mods are really just there as caretakers to facilitate the fire in the participants. We should think of mods as like a sort of cross between owner representatives and custodians. Like govs responsibility is to preserve the rights of the People, NOT to rule or control or even direct the people. But I digress...)
I feel a lot like (what I think) you are expressing.
Anyway, this one's a keeper.
I just checked your comments.
You haven't "given up", nor should you.
Imho.
You're somewhat right. If I had completely given up, I wouldn't be here at all -- or anywhere. At the moment however I post 95% percent rants and random opinions instead of 95% research as I did on previous accounts. If the board trends towards in-depth research and critical thinking again I'll be back in full force -- or to participate in a discussion about how to make that happen.
I suppose that isn't giving up but it kinda feels like it. I suppose a better way to think about it for me is I'm focusing my efforts in places where I can be more effective for now -- and trying to sketch out how a productive discussion can be had about this cultural problem here, without stepping on toes, causing useless infighting, and backfiring.
Thank you for the pep talk lol
I accept "somewhat".
I miss the research that was so great to read and "somewhat" emulate on voat, for instance.
Perhaps you will find the urge to share a link post to some of your research every now and then.
Meanwhile, Happy New Year.
May 2023 be a year of substance.