Is that what happened or are people just having less kids?
I can tell you as a millennial many my age are not getting married, not having kids, and are never planning to have kids. Whether that’s good or bad is up for debate, but I think we can blame the “have less kids” propaganda on some of the decline as well. This may not all be vaccine related.
Many will grow out of it once they start taking stuff seriously. I wouldn't know how to convince others, this really is an issue of parents not raising their children properly, then they fall into selfishness, not wanting to carry the torch.
Pray for them, there is no other reason to not want children, to not carrry the torch, other than selfishness. I can understand why some would be unable to have any, but selfishness is the main cause of this.
Totally. I was being semi-flippant and really just pointing out that the lockdown induced baby boom never happened. I totally get millennials choosing not to have kids. Sadly, I think a significant percentage of the decision is based on $. Kids, while more rewarding than anything else I have in my life, cost a lot. Totally worth it IMO, but agree everyone can make that choice. My main disappointment is with societal inflation and ridiculous costs of living in many parts of the world making the joys of a "fruitful family" a stressful proposition.
I think it’s a mixture of the cost of kids and people becoming more selfish. I think we judge that term, “selfish”, a little harshly in society. I don’t think choosing to not have kids is selfish, in some ways it’s selfless!
Take someone like me who is on the fence about kids. I’m not doing it from a selfish point of view (even though admittedly, I do enjoy my hobbies and free time), I just think this world is headed down a strange path. Until my confidence in it improves, why would I want to bring a child that I love into the world to potentially deal with the hardships?
Realize that’s a depressing thought, the last few years have just taken it out of me is all. I have faith in this planet and the people in it, but the vaccine being mandated and forcing me to move really made me realize how deep the rot goes. Still praying for the best
You, my fren, summed it up beautifully here, using common sense, logic and reason. Just bc we CAN procreate doesn't mean we should. So many factors to consider. Welfare recipients shouldn't procreate for the sheer gratification. Neither should discerning citizens skeptical of the future of our world. Just bc you can doesn't mean you should.
Before our child was born, my wife and I thought the same. We weren't being selfish, but rather selfless (at least in our eyes). Do we really want to raise a child in this F'd up clown world we're seeing today??
As said child has grown, we've seen the greatness and purity in the child, made long-lasting friendships with other parents, and experienced a world we couldn't have imagined otherwise. Parenting, teaching common sense values, above anything including the ABCs is most important.
So don't rush to do it simply bc you can. But understand that every being brought into this world has dealt w/ hardships. How we teach them to deal w/ those hardships is most important.
Again, best to you fren and use your own judgement. We were born with free will, no matter how hard others may try to strip it from us
Is that what happened or are people just having less kids?
I can tell you as a millennial many my age are not getting married, not having kids, and are never planning to have kids. Whether that’s good or bad is up for debate, but I think we can blame the “have less kids” propaganda on some of the decline as well. This may not all be vaccine related.
It's bad.
How would you convince them otherwise?
Many will grow out of it once they start taking stuff seriously. I wouldn't know how to convince others, this really is an issue of parents not raising their children properly, then they fall into selfishness, not wanting to carry the torch.
Pray for them, there is no other reason to not want children, to not carrry the torch, other than selfishness. I can understand why some would be unable to have any, but selfishness is the main cause of this.
Selfishness or selflessness? What if they’re worried about the state of the world and don’t want to subject children to it just to carry the torch?
Not only that, but sperm counts have been in decline for the decades leading up to where we are now.
I’ve heard that. All the poison we’ve more or less been forced to ingest likely hasn’t helped
Totally. I was being semi-flippant and really just pointing out that the lockdown induced baby boom never happened. I totally get millennials choosing not to have kids. Sadly, I think a significant percentage of the decision is based on $. Kids, while more rewarding than anything else I have in my life, cost a lot. Totally worth it IMO, but agree everyone can make that choice. My main disappointment is with societal inflation and ridiculous costs of living in many parts of the world making the joys of a "fruitful family" a stressful proposition.
I think it’s a mixture of the cost of kids and people becoming more selfish. I think we judge that term, “selfish”, a little harshly in society. I don’t think choosing to not have kids is selfish, in some ways it’s selfless!
Take someone like me who is on the fence about kids. I’m not doing it from a selfish point of view (even though admittedly, I do enjoy my hobbies and free time), I just think this world is headed down a strange path. Until my confidence in it improves, why would I want to bring a child that I love into the world to potentially deal with the hardships?
Realize that’s a depressing thought, the last few years have just taken it out of me is all. I have faith in this planet and the people in it, but the vaccine being mandated and forcing me to move really made me realize how deep the rot goes. Still praying for the best
You, my fren, summed it up beautifully here, using common sense, logic and reason. Just bc we CAN procreate doesn't mean we should. So many factors to consider. Welfare recipients shouldn't procreate for the sheer gratification. Neither should discerning citizens skeptical of the future of our world. Just bc you can doesn't mean you should.
Before our child was born, my wife and I thought the same. We weren't being selfish, but rather selfless (at least in our eyes). Do we really want to raise a child in this F'd up clown world we're seeing today??
As said child has grown, we've seen the greatness and purity in the child, made long-lasting friendships with other parents, and experienced a world we couldn't have imagined otherwise. Parenting, teaching common sense values, above anything including the ABCs is most important.
So don't rush to do it simply bc you can. But understand that every being brought into this world has dealt w/ hardships. How we teach them to deal w/ those hardships is most important.
Again, best to you fren and use your own judgement. We were born with free will, no matter how hard others may try to strip it from us
Also gardasil vaccine. Study admitted to increase infertility in mice studies "but dont worry our biology is different"