What about them? Those are pics from the internet. I physically was there in person and it was my mother's house. The fire did that to their area. Road didnt burn up, and cars were literally incinerated. Some was very random damage.
You said, 'Those are pics from the internet'. Yeah, they are. Where else am I going to find the photos?
And, I'm not talking about the asphalt in the roads, but the trees, grass and other easily flammable items that should have ignited with fires that were hot enough to melt steel. If the houses burned so hot to be reduced to ash, the heat they would have given off should have ignited everything around them, leaving nothing but a black burn scar. Think about how a tiny candle burns so hot you can't get your finger too close or it will burn. So how is it that a raging fire that burns so hot it melts the steel appliances, didn't affect things adjacent to the home like the wood trees, plastic playground equipment and trash cans that burn at a much lower flash point?
If you didn't know, in order to burn steel, concrete, porcelain tile, stone fireplaces, water heaters, stoves, ovens down to ash, you have to have a fires that exceed these numbers:
Steel: 2,200 - 2,500 degrees (steel in dishwashers, stoves, water heaters washers and dryers, microwaves - all burned to ash)
Porcelain: 3,275 degrees (sinks, tubs, toilets, floor tile, dishes - all burned to ash)
Glass: 2,600 - 2,800 degrees (windows, tabletops, drinking glasses, mirrors, etc. - all burned to ash)
Concrete roof tiles: Allegedly, they cannot burn in a fire. But they did. How?
But, According to the government, a house fire never gets that hot. See:
It says this: "Room temperatures in a house fire can be 100 degrees at floor level and rise to 600 degrees at eye level. Inhaling this super-hot air will scorch your lungs and melt clothes to your skin."
So how did these houses get up to 2,200 - 3,275 degrees Fahrenheit? How?
I know all that. Lots of questions there. What are you insinuating? The aftermath of the areas I personally saw, miles and miles, surrounding where my mother lives all had spotty and random damage.
But alot of those are rural areas and are not house fires, they were forest fires with houses in the burn area. Significant damage, but out of all of it didnt see one place where steel was melted or concrete reduced to nothing. Most stone hearths were left standing. Cars and appliances heavily burnt compromised but wasn't turned to molten state.
Anyway I was responding to the line of comments about asphalt not compromised but everything burned and like people are idiots with no critical thinking. Was there some nefarious intervention to make the fires worse, maybe. I didn't see anything suggesting that other than severe forest fires destroying many homes in the process.
Forest fires where hearths were left standing and steel was left standing sounds like a normal forest fire or house fire at normal burn temperatures. Those are not uncommon.
But we are talking about the fires that didn't burn the forest. That didn't spread randomly. They were pinpointed burns that took out homes and vehicles and left grass, trees, and everything else just feet away standing. This is not possible unless something else was at play.
I hope you can spot the clear difference.
Do an internet image search for this: "what are directed energy weapons?"
Excerpt: This month, the Force awakens in theaters. Next month, a new force awakens in the New Mexico desert, where the Defense Department is to start testing a weapon worthy of “Star Wars” — a silent, invisible laser that needs just a couple of seconds to burn a hole in targets miles away.
“What it really boils down to is a silent weapon that nobody sees or hears,” said Lt. Gen. Bradley Heithold, commander of Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC, pronounced “AFF-sock”).
These are a few of the somewhat unusual photos, I'll have to see if there are any others that the internet has not scrubbed:
https://s.w-x.co/09_paradise-california_kilcrease-circle_after-fire-2_17nov2018_wv3_.gif
https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/dims4/default/0b5fe9a/2147483647/strip/true/crop/4279x2619+0+0/resize/1200x734!/format/webp/quality/80/
https://s.abcnews.com/images/US/one-year-after-camp-fire-paradise-california-19102_hpMain_20191108-054307_4x5_608.jpg
What about them? Those are pics from the internet. I physically was there in person and it was my mother's house. The fire did that to their area. Road didnt burn up, and cars were literally incinerated. Some was very random damage.
You said, 'Those are pics from the internet'. Yeah, they are. Where else am I going to find the photos?
And, I'm not talking about the asphalt in the roads, but the trees, grass and other easily flammable items that should have ignited with fires that were hot enough to melt steel. If the houses burned so hot to be reduced to ash, the heat they would have given off should have ignited everything around them, leaving nothing but a black burn scar. Think about how a tiny candle burns so hot you can't get your finger too close or it will burn. So how is it that a raging fire that burns so hot it melts the steel appliances, didn't affect things adjacent to the home like the wood trees, plastic playground equipment and trash cans that burn at a much lower flash point?
If you didn't know, in order to burn steel, concrete, porcelain tile, stone fireplaces, water heaters, stoves, ovens down to ash, you have to have a fires that exceed these numbers:
But, According to the government, a house fire never gets that hot. See:
Home Fires | Ready.gov - https://www.ready.gov › home-fires
It says this: "Room temperatures in a house fire can be 100 degrees at floor level and rise to 600 degrees at eye level. Inhaling this super-hot air will scorch your lungs and melt clothes to your skin."
So how did these houses get up to 2,200 - 3,275 degrees Fahrenheit? How?
I know all that. Lots of questions there. What are you insinuating? The aftermath of the areas I personally saw, miles and miles, surrounding where my mother lives all had spotty and random damage.
But alot of those are rural areas and are not house fires, they were forest fires with houses in the burn area. Significant damage, but out of all of it didnt see one place where steel was melted or concrete reduced to nothing. Most stone hearths were left standing. Cars and appliances heavily burnt compromised but wasn't turned to molten state.
Anyway I was responding to the line of comments about asphalt not compromised but everything burned and like people are idiots with no critical thinking. Was there some nefarious intervention to make the fires worse, maybe. I didn't see anything suggesting that other than severe forest fires destroying many homes in the process.
Forest fires where hearths were left standing and steel was left standing sounds like a normal forest fire or house fire at normal burn temperatures. Those are not uncommon.
But we are talking about the fires that didn't burn the forest. That didn't spread randomly. They were pinpointed burns that took out homes and vehicles and left grass, trees, and everything else just feet away standing. This is not possible unless something else was at play.
I hope you can spot the clear difference.
Do an internet image search for this: "what are directed energy weapons?"
And this: https://nypost.com/2015/12/27/air-force-will-test-first-aircraft-mounted-laser-weapon-in-january/
Excerpt: This month, the Force awakens in theaters. Next month, a new force awakens in the New Mexico desert, where the Defense Department is to start testing a weapon worthy of “Star Wars” — a silent, invisible laser that needs just a couple of seconds to burn a hole in targets miles away.
“What it really boils down to is a silent weapon that nobody sees or hears,” said Lt. Gen. Bradley Heithold, commander of Air Force Special Operations Command (AFSOC, pronounced “AFF-sock”).
The second link gives a grayed square. I wonder why?
Try these links:
https://s.w-x.co/09_paradise-california_kilcrease-circle_after-fire-2_17nov2018_wv3_.gif
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dd-ozyDVQAEqmU4?format=jpg&name=medium
https://twitter.com/prau55/status/1298066457209614336/photo/1
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsE26FwXgAEyPYf?format=jpg&name=large
WOW! I'd not seen those images. THANK YOU, u/purkiss80!!! You never fail.
My pleasure...
Gave you some new images, were you able to open them?
I thought for sure that I'd thanked you for them and they did open. My apologies!! Good images.