You will not be destroying the one at the Vatican.
The obelisk does not signify pagan worship, although it undoubtedly has pagan origins. Where St. Peter’s now stands once stood a Roman circus erected by the infamous Roman Emperor Caligula. Caligula placed this obelisk, a symbol of ancient Egyptian religion, in this circus. Many Christians were executed in this circus, particularly during the reign of the Emperor Nero, and would’ve seen the obelisk in their dying moments as they looked upward. Christian tradition holds that Peter was one of those martyrs.
In homage to these early Christian martyrs, against whom death could not ultimately prevail (John 11:25), the Church erected St. Peter’s Basilica on the location of the former circus, and placed the obelisk as a reminder of the victory of both the Church in general and early Christians in particular over the pagan Roman Empire.
There is further evidence refuting the charge of pagan worship by the Catholic Church. In pagan times, a golden ball symbolizing worship of the sun topped the obelisk. However, the Church long ago replaced the golden ball with a cross, in which is contained a relic of the True Cross. Which, ironically, is a fulfillment of Jeremiah 43:13.
The Romans inherited the obelisk and its meaning from the Greeks, who obtained it from Aristotle, who brought it from Egypt after spending 20 years in the Egyptian mystery schools. The original purpose of the obelisk was to honor Osiris's godlike schlong. I'm not kidding.
The piece of Osiris which Isis never recovered was the penis, which Set had cruelly thrown into the Nile, where it was eaten by fish. Ever-resourceful, Isis 'manufactured an artificial organ around which the Egyptians established a cult and festival'.[7.] From this it is a small step to the conclusion that the benben or obelisk was itself a phallic symbol. Where of Osiris, Re or of fertility in general, it was a symbol of fatherhood: 'the rock that begot'. To Freemasons groping for mystic enlightenment in the 1800s the obelisk was the only architectural symbol of Osiris still in existence.
So it's an occult symbol, Freemason symbol, and ancient symbol of Egyption myth, which was based on the Babylonian mysteries.
Freemasonry adopted the obelisk possibly to represent their dominion over any land where it is --ahem-- erected.
This is why Washington DC is Freemason central. The 13 colonies represented the 13 body parts of Osiris that were recovered, and the 14th piece is Washington DC, the schlong of Osiris that was never found but is represented by the Washington monument.
As an aside, I think this was the real reason the white hats turned off the lights on the monument just days after Biden was inaugurated.
In homage to these early Christian martyrs, against whom death could not ultimately prevail (John 11:25), the Church erected St. Peter’s Basilica on the location of the former circus, and placed the obelisk as a reminder of the victory of both the Church in general and early Christians in particular over the pagan Roman Empire.
There is further evidence refuting the charge of pagan worship by the Catholic Church. In pagan times, a golden ball symbolizing worship of the sun topped the obelisk. However, the Church long ago replaced the golden ball with a cross, in which is contained a relic of the True Cross. Which, ironically, is a fulfillment of Jeremiah 43:13.
AGAIN...
However, the Church long ago replaced the golden ball with a cross, in which is contained a relic of the True Cross. Which, ironically, is a fulfillment of Jeremiah 43:13.
Here is more...
Pope Sixtus V conducted the ancient rite of exorcism against the obelisk. After that he casted sanctified water upon the pillar in the form of a cross and spoke, “In nomine Patris, et Filij, et Spiritus sancti. Amen” (“In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen”). The text of the exorcism is carved in Latin into the western and eastern sides of the base of the obelisk.
The obelisk has been conquered. It stands for all to see.
We have been taught, all of our lives, that the past and the present are separate; that intentions changed hands, and different entities took power. Any trappings left behind is just homage, not intended to represent what it originally represented. Your statement is a perfect example of that training.
Where is the evidence to support that belief? All evidence comes from people with conflicts of interest. As you dig deeper, you find the exact same group of people doing the exact same thing in the exact same way. The "change of hands" is less different entities, and more like "one cousin killed another cousin and took control."
All of the different "emperors" and "kings" and "khans," etc. were all related. They all used the same form of government, and the real leaders were always the High Priests and the Money Changers (eventually called Bankers). These High Priests and Bankers were always the same families as well. When you dig in, you find that the only thing that really changed was the face of government. There was an ever improving illusion that power was being vested in the people. It never was. The real power remained the same, all throughout time, residing in an aristocracy, being ultimately controlled by the Churches/Temples/Mosques/etc. and the Banks.
The past and the present are directly connected. Nothing has changed at its core. The illusion of separation has been taught to us for generations, and we believe it, despite all the evidence to the contrary. No one knows about that evidence, because all of those institutions in charge taught us to live our entire lives happy to not look, and to repeat, as you have done, everything there is to know about the shadows on the cave wall; where they created the cave, the light, and the hand puppets that show us the story they want us to see.
Also, it doesn't require the Bible to see that the past and the present are intimately connected through the control structures, which was the point of my post.
Except that it does. That is exactly what it signifies. That it signified that before the Catholic church appropriated it is not contested. You suggest that it signified something different for the Catholic church. I am saying it does not. I am trying to tell you that the Catholic church was created by and is run by the exact same people as those who used the obelisk for its original purpose. The evidence for that assertion is everywhere. Your apology was created by those with conflicts of interest.
What does that prove or negate?
You stated:
You either believe the Bible is a historical record or you don't.
My statement was to indicate that that is irrelevant (in the sense that it is an unnecessary requirement) to being able to see these connections between past and present. On the contrary, while I agree it is an excellent resource, it can interfere with that process, because in order to hold on to the belief that the Bible is absolute truth, every word exact as given to us by Source, you must ignore a great deal of evidence.
I told you what that one particular obelisk signifies for the Catholic church. The Catholic church is not pagan. It's topped with a cross and has been exorcized for a reason. Why bother if its all the same religion?
I am trying to tell you that the Catholic church was created by and is run by the exact same people as those who used the obelisk for its original purpose.
The Catholic church was started by Jesus Christ and while it may be infiltrated, that does not negate the fact that the Church is not pagan nor do we worship a pagan god.
The day the Georgia Guidestones came down, I felt a whole new pep in my step lol. The obelisks shattered might just have me doing cartwheels and back flips!
Me < strongly suspecting that Bannon has been playing a role. All of his ragging on Q and anons early on really felt like kayfebe to me. Like Flynn, like Kash's soft touch, etc.
Yet, a few months back, he gave a kudo to anons work on trafficking, if I recall correctly.
Bannon is serving a really important niche.
As you say, it's no coincidence that musk wrote "there are no coincidences".
What everyone is missing is that there is truth in Elon's post, and he's trolling the deep state. To the cabal, the Washington monument represents the phallus of Osiris, so it is a religious symbol to them. See my comment above about the meaning behind it.
...when the obelisks in DC, the City of London and the Vatican are destroyed and removed, we will finally b free of [ DS] control
You will not be destroying the one at the Vatican.
The obelisk does not signify pagan worship, although it undoubtedly has pagan origins. Where St. Peter’s now stands once stood a Roman circus erected by the infamous Roman Emperor Caligula. Caligula placed this obelisk, a symbol of ancient Egyptian religion, in this circus. Many Christians were executed in this circus, particularly during the reign of the Emperor Nero, and would’ve seen the obelisk in their dying moments as they looked upward. Christian tradition holds that Peter was one of those martyrs.
In homage to these early Christian martyrs, against whom death could not ultimately prevail (John 11:25), the Church erected St. Peter’s Basilica on the location of the former circus, and placed the obelisk as a reminder of the victory of both the Church in general and early Christians in particular over the pagan Roman Empire.
There is further evidence refuting the charge of pagan worship by the Catholic Church. In pagan times, a golden ball symbolizing worship of the sun topped the obelisk. However, the Church long ago replaced the golden ball with a cross, in which is contained a relic of the True Cross. Which, ironically, is a fulfillment of Jeremiah 43:13.
https://www.catholic.com/qa/paying-homage-to-paganism-the-obelisk-in-st-peters-square
Nice apologetics. Just like the upside down cross represents Peter...
The Romans inherited the obelisk and its meaning from the Greeks, who obtained it from Aristotle, who brought it from Egypt after spending 20 years in the Egyptian mystery schools. The original purpose of the obelisk was to honor Osiris's godlike schlong. I'm not kidding.
In case you want to read more: https://www.freemasonrywatch.org/obelisks_freemasonry.html
So it's an occult symbol, Freemason symbol, and ancient symbol of Egyption myth, which was based on the Babylonian mysteries.
Freemasonry adopted the obelisk possibly to represent their dominion over any land where it is --ahem-- erected.
This is why Washington DC is Freemason central. The 13 colonies represented the 13 body parts of Osiris that were recovered, and the 14th piece is Washington DC, the schlong of Osiris that was never found but is represented by the Washington monument.
As an aside, I think this was the real reason the white hats turned off the lights on the monument just days after Biden was inaugurated.
Did you ignore everything I wrote on purpose?
Read again. SLOWLY.
In homage to these early Christian martyrs, against whom death could not ultimately prevail (John 11:25), the Church erected St. Peter’s Basilica on the location of the former circus, and placed the obelisk as a reminder of the victory of both the Church in general and early Christians in particular over the pagan Roman Empire.
There is further evidence refuting the charge of pagan worship by the Catholic Church. In pagan times, a golden ball symbolizing worship of the sun topped the obelisk. However, the Church long ago replaced the golden ball with a cross, in which is contained a relic of the True Cross. Which, ironically, is a fulfillment of Jeremiah 43:13.
AGAIN...
Here is more...
Pope Sixtus V conducted the ancient rite of exorcism against the obelisk. After that he casted sanctified water upon the pillar in the form of a cross and spoke, “In nomine Patris, et Filij, et Spiritus sancti. Amen” (“In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen”). The text of the exorcism is carved in Latin into the western and eastern sides of the base of the obelisk.
The obelisk has been conquered. It stands for all to see.
It isn't coming down.
So... it's a modern day John Wayne Bobbitt danger gonger??? LOL
At least take a few stones off the top of the Vatican obelisk in order to represent Martin Luthers absolutely brutal circumcision of the church.
We have been taught, all of our lives, that the past and the present are separate; that intentions changed hands, and different entities took power. Any trappings left behind is just homage, not intended to represent what it originally represented. Your statement is a perfect example of that training.
Where is the evidence to support that belief? All evidence comes from people with conflicts of interest. As you dig deeper, you find the exact same group of people doing the exact same thing in the exact same way. The "change of hands" is less different entities, and more like "one cousin killed another cousin and took control."
All of the different "emperors" and "kings" and "khans," etc. were all related. They all used the same form of government, and the real leaders were always the High Priests and the Money Changers (eventually called Bankers). These High Priests and Bankers were always the same families as well. When you dig in, you find that the only thing that really changed was the face of government. There was an ever improving illusion that power was being vested in the people. It never was. The real power remained the same, all throughout time, residing in an aristocracy, being ultimately controlled by the Churches/Temples/Mosques/etc. and the Banks.
The past and the present are directly connected. Nothing has changed at its core. The illusion of separation has been taught to us for generations, and we believe it, despite all the evidence to the contrary. No one knows about that evidence, because all of those institutions in charge taught us to live our entire lives happy to not look, and to repeat, as you have done, everything there is to know about the shadows on the cave wall; where they created the cave, the light, and the hand puppets that show us the story they want us to see.
Nope, nothing new under the sun as the Bible states.
The Bible says there is nothing new under the sun. You either believe the Bible is a historical record or you don't.
I'm pretty sure you didn't read what I wrote.
Also, it doesn't require the Bible to see that the past and the present are intimately connected through the control structures, which was the point of my post.
I read it a few times.
You opened with a false statement.
No, I have not been taught that the past and present are separate. I was taught there is nothing new under the sun.
And?
What does that prove or negate?
You made the claim:
Except that it does. That is exactly what it signifies. That it signified that before the Catholic church appropriated it is not contested. You suggest that it signified something different for the Catholic church. I am saying it does not. I am trying to tell you that the Catholic church was created by and is run by the exact same people as those who used the obelisk for its original purpose. The evidence for that assertion is everywhere. Your apology was created by those with conflicts of interest.
You stated:
My statement was to indicate that that is irrelevant (in the sense that it is an unnecessary requirement) to being able to see these connections between past and present. On the contrary, while I agree it is an excellent resource, it can interfere with that process, because in order to hold on to the belief that the Bible is absolute truth, every word exact as given to us by Source, you must ignore a great deal of evidence.
Prove it.
https://www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/basilica-of-saint-peter
I told you what that one particular obelisk signifies for the Catholic church. The Catholic church is not pagan. It's topped with a cross and has been exorcized for a reason. Why bother if its all the same religion?
The Catholic church was started by Jesus Christ and while it may be infiltrated, that does not negate the fact that the Church is not pagan nor do we worship a pagan god.
Replace with an actual statue of Washington
I think its the other way around. When we are finally free of Cabal control, the obelisks will be removed.
The day the Georgia Guidestones came down, I felt a whole new pep in my step lol. The obelisks shattered might just have me doing cartwheels and back flips!
There's a joke in here somewhere about boners but I can't seem to erect it.
There are no coincidences.
That line comes from Steve Bannon.
He may have made it popular, but I'm confident Steve didn't invent that sentence.
Yeah, it doesn't matter. It can't be a coincidence that Bannon started saying that in almost every show and now Elon uses it too.
Because there are no coincidences.
Me < strongly suspecting that Bannon has been playing a role. All of his ragging on Q and anons early on really felt like kayfebe to me. Like Flynn, like Kash's soft touch, etc.
Yet, a few months back, he gave a kudo to anons work on trafficking, if I recall correctly.
Bannon is serving a really important niche.
As you say, it's no coincidence that musk wrote "there are no coincidences".
What everyone is missing is that there is truth in Elon's post, and he's trolling the deep state. To the cabal, the Washington monument represents the phallus of Osiris, so it is a religious symbol to them. See my comment above about the meaning behind it.
Yeah, totally.
Musk is sending signals, dropping hints, and seeding narratives. That boy be active.
This picture is more literal than most people realize.
We know where the dicks are.
Nimrod?
Is it just me or does this picture make the earth look like a Q? There are no coincidences, lol.
Indeed it does.
Hard to Prove him wrong.
OMG - I just spit out my tea!