First, we have a Red Skull thread on 4chan.
RS being a LARP or not aside, it’s interesting that’s RS is tying this to a Jesuit civil war and Nancy Pelosi losing her power in Congress.
This got me thinking about the ongoing trial with the Vatican and its shady $400mil real estate deal in London. So I looked up if there was any recent developments in that case.
In Thursday’s 46th session of the Catholic Church’s marathon corruption trial, the president of the Vatican Bank said he had no choice but to report to prosecutors what he knew about the London real-estate deal at the heart of the inquiry, even as he faced pressure from officials at the Vatican’s Secretariat of State to approve a loan worth hundreds of millions of euro to bail out the failed investment.
“The time had come when the institute had no other choice, given the circumstances created and the uncertainty reached. The only thing that could be done was to file a complaint with the tribunal,” De Franssu told the court.
Really recommend reading that article; it’s very juicy.
We also have new bishops being appointed that apparently are raising eyebrows.
Article: Saturday was a Doozy as the Vatican Took out the Trash
Apparently Saturday afternoons are the Vatican version of the White House dumping bad PR info on Fridays so no one pays attention?
Anyway, some highlights from the article regarding this practice and how they tried to keep four new controversial clergy members getting promoted under the rug.
In the Vatican, Saturday morning is actually a work day, so its equivalent of taking out the trash comes in the noontime Saturday news bulletin. The calculation is that anything announced therein will be largely ignored, since, in Italian psychology, Saturday afternoon is the prelude to the sacrosanct calm of Sunday.
This past Saturday brought a doozy of a trash dump, with the announcement of no fewer than four bishops’ appointments, each one of which, under other circumstances, might have triggered at least a small-scale media sensation.
First bishop is in Sierra Leone:
The cavalcade began in Sierre Leone, where Pope Francis tapped Bob John Hassan Koroma as the new bishop of the Diocese of Makeni, located in the north-central part of the country about 120 miles from the capital city of Freetown.
What makes the choice noteworthy is that Makeni has been a vacant episcopal see since 2015, and it hasn’t had a residential bishop since 2012. In January of that year, Pope Benedict XVI named Henry Aruna the Bishop of Makeni, but he wasn’t ordained until a year later, and in Freetown, because the clergy and people of his new diocese refused to let him in.
More noteworthy to me is this guy:
Next, the Vatican also announced on Saturday that *Lithuanian Father Rolandas Makrickas, * who’s been acting pro tem as the special commissioner of the papal basilica of St. Mary Major since December 2021, has been confirmed in that role and elevated to the rank of Archbishop.
What make this move curious is that, like the other papal basilicas in Rome, St. Mary Major still has an Archpriest who’s theoretically in charge in the person of 77-year-old Polish Cardinal Stanislaw Rylko, former head of the Pontifical Council for the Laity who’s been at St. Mary Major since 2016.
Aside from the fact that Rylko is an old-school Catholic conservative associated with the Pope John Paul II years, and thus not really Francis’s cup of tea, there have also been persistent rumors of financial irregularities at the basilica, which were compounded by shortfalls caused by the coronavirus pandemic.
Still, the confirmation of Makrickas as “commissioner” – an extraordinary role which, by definition, is usually designed to be temporary – raises a couple of questions to which, so far, we don’t have answers.
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First, if the situation is so bad, why doesn’t Francis simple fire Rylko and appoint new leadership? Why keep him on the books, only to assign most of his authority to someone else? And, second, if the problem is money, is the solution really to appoint a former official of the financial administration of the Secretariat of State, several of whose erstwhile colleagues are currently facing trial for their roles in a $400 million London real estate fiasco?
Finally, this stood out to me re: Bishop O’Connell. Especially considering Francis’ own questionable background in Argentina and women and children going missing during the war. This is from the LA Times article on his death.
He was the chairman of the interdiocesan Southern California Immigration Task Force, helping coordinate the church’s response to immigrant children and families from Central America in recent years, and was key in sponsoring the enrollment of several young immigrants in Catholic schools — several of whom have advanced to college.
Human trafficking?
So my question is: can we link this guy directly to Pelosi and/or her husband?
Because having groundbreaking Vatican trial news and a hush hush Vatican press release about new bishops all within 24–72 hours of a bishop getting shot definitely feels related.
Everything is corrupted- this is Satans domain. A ‘church’ is only as good as the people in it. I do not denounce my American citizenship just because America is a corrupted shithole- neither do I denounce my catholism b/c of of the Vatican. I stand firm & await for Christs return and pray for my enemies. God will separate the wheat from the darnel at the end.
I agree wholeheartedly. Also, the church’s leadership in the centuries following the great schism were possibly even more corrupt than today
I see where you are coming from. I agree on God being the only one who decides who makes the cut in the end.
But, as someone baptized Catholic who gets familial flack for not going through communion and confirmation, I cannot in good conscience attend and support a corrupted system.
I have no say on who the Pope is. I have no say on which priest winds up in charge of my local parish. But I do have a say in who runs the country through my vote. As I cannot vote a Priest in, I must voice my dissent for Catholic corruption by not supporting the institutions that allow the corruption to occur.
By doing that you are basically denying visiting Jesus b/c he sits in a den of thieves & tax collectors. Swallow your pride & see going to weekly service for Christ. Not for the pope - not for the priest- but for your relationship with Christ. Like visiting with your dad 1 hour a week. The graces received by celebrating mass & taking communion far outweigh any of Satans efforts in this world. THIS is how we fight Satan- This is what putting on the Armor of God is. These graces also extend to your family & loved ones - like light emanating. Christs light.
One can be with Christ without going to a physical Church.
For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them.”
Mathew 18:20
In the book of acts when the apostles formed the first church where and how did they worship. The liturgical mass of today has no resemblance of our true roots. Why? "Roman" catholic should provide a small hint. What was religion like for Romans? How did that effect the catholic church when Constantine declared Christianity the state religion? Constantine was both head of the catholic church and the pagan church. Roman temples had statues of gods. Cathedrals have statues of Saints. The apostles went to synagogue on Saturday and celebrated a communion meal together on Sunday. Read acts. See the issue when the gentiles complain the food is not being fairly distributed at the communion meal and they were not getting enough to eat. It was an actual meal. Yes they broke bread, but the breaking of the bread was traditionally done at the meal. This meal was apparently in someones house. Like the last supper was in a borrowed hall. When we accept Christ he comes and dwells in us, not in a building. Where three or more gather there I am also. The first churches were small home groups, and I believe the last churches will be small home groups. We Christians are the new priesthood and Jesus is our high priest. We can all beeak bread at home and celebrate communion. Find a good home Bible study group to join. Meet with brothers for coffee to read the word often (iron sharpens iron). Start the one year plan to read through the word once every year. Celebrate communion often with your home group.
Yes I do believe there will be small home groups -because we will be persecuted again like in the early days- Christians will worship in hiding. But as for now -being in a group of 400 people all saying the Our Father at the same time is extremely powerful. Luke 22 14-20 This is my body - which will be given for you; do this in memory of me. & Mathew 16 vs 18. Peter- upon this rock I will build my church & the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
I am always astounded by how people assume they know what is best for me and my relationship with Christ.
Fren, all things considered? I should be dead. I am only alive because of the grace of Christ and a guardian Angel who decided I was worth saving in an accident that should’ve killed me.
One can go to Church wherever the Holy Spirit guides them to find Christ. For me, that isn’t Catholicism.
You're not alone. There's a massive group of Christians who also protest against corruption in the Catholic church.
They're called protestants.
Reconsider- there is more there than an organized religion. I too was raised catholic then went new age & Buddhist- but God has called me back. I first went back saying I was going to go through 1 liturgical year of masses. That led to me getting confirmed last year. My view is more 40,000 ft view now. I’ve come to the realization that my ancestors passed this gift of faith on generation after generation. Who am I to deny it or denounce it? Our ancestors did get some things right. I now thank them & bless them for it as it has strengthened my own faith & resolve to see Gods plan fulfilled.
Thank you for sharing, CabalBot. The writings of the early Church Fathers from the first centuries, before there WAS a Bible to read, show how the liturgy is the same and the beliefs are there from the beginning. I attend every week and took pains to find a parish where the Mass is offered with reverence and following the rubrics. That said, the mess that is Bergoglio's pontificate is the fulfillment of prophecy and scary as heck. Jesus said He is with us all days and the gates of hell will not prevail. That is my hope.
"Your Funny" !!! Jesus Christ !!! I'm funny as well . . . I'm sure that there are a few of us "Funny Fellow's" here scratching our old bald head's !!!
You can follow the Bible according to your own reading and not be a Mormon. Following the Word is what matters, not denomination.
"Peter, you are rock. And on this rock I build my church. The gates of hell shall not prevail against her." Mt 16:15
The church is the mystical body of Christ. It is not perfect, but it is the best we've got. Satan has infiltrated the Church at its highest levels - the "smoke of Satan" has been in the Vatican for a long time. That doesn't mean that we abandon the Church. We are living through times when every institution is being infiltrated. That does not mean every institution should be eliminated.
Yeah, we aren’t going to agree on this.
Try the Methodist church. Great messages and Bible-based sermons. I didn’t think I would ever join another church when I stopped being Catholic a few years back but it was exactly what I was looking for. Perusing a specific church’s website or online bulletin is a good way to see if they share your values. Methodist’s are dedicated to public service so their charitable campaigns are a good indicator of the congregation’s values.