A post on our board of a retruth by Trump that expounds on him winning his THIRD presidential election, etc, (https://greatawakening.win/p/16aTCaUCb0/nbd--just-trump-openly-promoting/c/) elicited a number of responses.
Top comment: "and how is this exactly going to happen when they stole TWO elections since he had been in office? Did something fix that problem?"
This is reinforced by several sub-comments, offering the all-too-frequent "nothing happens until we get justice" and "nothing happens", "they never face consequences", "I'm getting impatient".
While such reactions are understandable, they are essentially doomerism. They need a response. The following is an attempt at a big picture sketch, to hopefully draw out the large lines that pedes need to grasp in order to really understand what it going on, and avoid falling into reactionary views that undermine and sap the energy.
"Overcoming the systems of fraud? If so, what happened in 2020?"
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it had to be this way.
Grasping The Big Picture
For decades, the white hats have been battling against the Cabal and their evil operations. However, for decades, the White Hats have also been in the underdog position. The corruption too heavy, the odds too difficult. Look at what happened to JFK.
So, the white hats had to plan, collect, bide their time until the right opportunity.
It came some time before 2016. They were able to move and in a wink of an eye, switch the positions, so that they "had everything" and "caught them all". That was 2016.
But the corruption in the system is far too deep and penetrating to be uprooted in a single term, or by a single government, or in 4 years, etc. THe corruption is an international cabal and the US is simply one location, albeit the central one.
So, beginning from 2016, an operation was put into place. Q is just one part of that. And, several things are necessary for that operation (aka extrication and eradication of the Cabal) to succeed.
One
One, the people of the world must wake up. But there's a problem. People have been brainwashed in the matrix for decades. Whole generations have grow up not understanding how the Cabal matrix was all around them. So, you cannot simply say "hey! this <truth>". It would be rejected and shot down. So, there is a lengthy process required to gradually and successfully wake up enough of the world's population (including the US population) to the fact that things are not what they have seemed to be.
Two
Two, to wake people up, the system must be exposed. That requires letting the system operate, but in increasingly more 'sunlight'. If the system was simply shut down, behind the scenes and from the top down:
Firstly, very few people would even accept that the system exists - you cannot simply "tell" people. Realization needs to come, can only come through waking up via the very painful experience of experiencing REALITY.
Secondly, because the root cause of the problem is the deception of the people, the root solution is humanity throwing off the deception, so without the people experiencing the reality of the world, the Cabal system would simply return and grow back, even if it were removed partially or temporarily. A permanent solution is required, and that requires the system being fully and completely exposed, which requires the reality of it hitting the world BUT with sunlight and exposure now added to the mix.
Three
Three, meanwhile, as the world is waking up, steps have to be taken, mostly behind the scenes to neuter and disarm the potential nuclear-level bomb that is the Cabal. Think of the most complex bomb in a James Bond movie, and multiply that by 1000 or 10,000 in terms of complexity. Once the war was openly declared (2016), the Cabal became a more deadly opponent. They could resort to anything to strike back, including nuclear bombs, massive destruction.
In other words, there needs to be a controlled demolition of the Cabal system, done in such a way that the damage and fallout is as limited as possible, and this takes both time and very careful planning and action. In a game of chess, there is a point where both sides realize that one of them has won the game. The better the chess masters, the earlier they see this. But the Cabal has NO RETREAT option. They cannot surrender. At all. That's because surrender means their destruction and annihilation. So, over time, the white hats have to force them more and more into compromising positions, gradually reducing their options until the final blows can be openly executed.
Controlled Demolition
Look around. So much of their system is being exposed, so many people waking up. Meanwhile the controlled collapse of the fiat currency system, which underpinned all their power and wealth, is underway.
For this reason, in the large scale of things, 2020 had to happen. All of the collapsing of the system could NOT take place under DJT. Afghanistan 'pullout'? Collapse of the fiat USD? Rowe vs wade? etc.
Painful as the process is, the white hats who understood what has been going on, for decades, for centuries, had to come up with an operation, a plan, that took the whole thing down. 2020 was painful, but necessary. And Joe Biden is the biggest red pill the Americans could ever ask for, in reality. Meanwhile, so MANY things DJT's admin put in place have been continuing under Biden, despite appearances.
We want to get to the place where everything is fixed, certainly, but it requires the above elements - exposure of the reality of the system > experience of that reality by the people > the awakening of the people + controlled demolition of the corrupt system behind the scenes.
It is so, so, so much bigger than election fraud in the USA. The election fraud is miniscule in comparison to the corruption endemic to our societies. Election fraud? What about economic fraud? Judicial fraud? Propaganda (information fraud)? Corporate fraud? Education fraud? It's everywhere, and as such, it requires a wholistic solution, as painful as it may be.
And, the controlled demolition requires the White Hats stepping out of the way in certain cases to allow the black hats to take steps that will end up only hurting them. Think jiu jitsu.
Our Part
Our part is to learn to think again, for ourselves, and grasp that there is indeed an operation under way. Collectively, we have been ignorant of the Cabal agenda and malignancy for decades. Waking up to that is the first step, but then we also need to wake up to the White Hat agenda, and see it for what it is.
That's where Q was the kickstart, and that's why we are here.
The war was over before it began. How long it takes, and how it unfolds, well, you, me, and every other individual involved becomes a factor. Nothing can stop what is coming, but we can hasten it or delay it by what you and I choose to do. That's our part in this. But, we are not alone. Not by any means.
Follow up:
Devolution series, re-read Q drops, and review from 40,000 ft. Meanwhile, hunger for truth. Q is/was a psyop to kickstart the process or awakening. We have to continue it.
That sounds like a false dichotomy. Perhaps the cabal was more entrenched than previously believed or reacted in unanticipated ways in 2020. Perhaps they underestimated how hard it would be to wake people up and stupid voters turned up in greater numbers. Or maybe demoralized Patriots stayed home in greater numbers.
Nah. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Q only "appears" in Oct 2017 if the game is already OVER. The White Hats won this thing before they can put forth the Q OP.
The battle is won
Before it's begun
Yup, the battle is won, but there is a lot to clean up, still pockets of resistance. It will take years, and maybe even decades before the truth fully comes out. An organization that's existed for centuries isn't removed in just a few years. I think my grand children's generation will know everything and the world will be a much better place.
Great but I don' t know that patriot resolve will last for decades without seeing at least SOME visible, tangible signs of justice FFS
We're not made of stone
Yep, as annoying and frustrating as the waiting is/has been, it has to be done in a palatable manner so normies could get on board. As is becoming obvious, a lot of people are now getting it. They see retarded Biden, they see Fetterman elected, they see covid was a plandemic, they see Zelensky saying our young people will have to fight in Ukraine, they see Hunter's laptop was not misinformation, etc. In my opinion, all the Rob Reiners and loud "mouths" on social media are entrenched with the left. They know the truth but have to obey their orders to spread disinfo. Their messages are not working anymore. Q stated that there will be certain percentage -4-6% who will refuse to know the truth. People are beginning to turn against the tranny shit due to the shows for children and crap like Hershey having a man on wrappers for Woman's Day.
If it were truly over in 2017 I would think the inevitable victory would be a lot more apparent 5.5 years later. The problem is it feels to me we're in a substantially worse position now.
This is why simply relying on feelings isn't tenable. In the midst of war (biggest war humanity has ever seen), chaos is abundant. What you see really depends on the parameters your base your viewing point from.
Those feeling are based on hard numbers. The hardest two are that:
You are correct. Juan O’Savin did a whole segment on this as a truth of the Cabal being locally deeper in each State and many communities even in red states and red towns and cities. So progress had to be decelerated some to make sure We The People would be caught off guard later by these sleepers or more subtle agents. Though he did say it would take a few years to fully expose them and remove them all (the ones with real power/control locally). That’s why we all have to encourage others and to be involved in our communities.
And this isn’t the end. Once we handle the US, we then must turn to help finish the job world wide. So yes it’ll be a few years until we can breath a bit easier.
The video linked below I think is the correct one where Juan discusses how bad/dug-in locally the Cabal turned out to be beyond all the prior info/intel, besides what was for sure known at the Fed and Capital State Level.
https://rumble.com/v29s81y-juan-o-savin-and-david-nino-knowledge-of-whats-occurred...html
...which resulted in Trump receiving more votes than any sitting president in history.
LOL
No, it's this one:
Q team expected Trump to win. There was even a post about how the democrats would fight the victory in court, insist Trump cheated, etc.
Not as clear-cut as that.
The Q post you cite was a message to us, telling us what the cabal had planned if white hats intervened as they did in 2016. The cabal was going to claim Trump cheated and push civil war.
That's one of the reasons the cabal was allowed to steal 2020.
My problem with that is that I didn't see any evidence that anyone was prepared to stop fraud, despite having had the 2018 election to monitor to figure out the weaknesses and address them.
Is there any visible evidence of a change for 2024? I've seen zero.
But he WAS CiC on Election Day so the ultimate responsibility was on DJT. They either did not monitor the election (dereliction of duty), or they did monitor. Then, they either take steps to rectify or, they don’t and just walk off into the sunset (dereliction of duty).
So if this is where we are: DJT seemingly not in power…is it bc that’s part of white hat’s plans, or bc he abandoned his duty and took the loss on his chin like a good lil bitch??
Which do think seems more like Trump? If we’re not in the plan now, why would we want Trump again if we think he just watched it all be stolLen and did nothing? Reconcile.
I can't reconcile because this timeline and the visible actions makes no sense. We are not in a strengthening position. We're being invaded by millions of people who do not share our culture, our language, or our values. Our law enforcement agencies are weaponized against US, not the criminals. Our schools no longer education, they indoctrinate with a hostile ideology. Our economy is being deliberately destroyed through a combination of rampant spending, rapid inflation, and rampant debt. Unless the plan is to start a civil war I'm having trouble seeing how the current actions are taking us anywhere good.
I feel you fren. It doesn’t really make sense. Only thing I keep telling myself is that it makes even less sense for DJT to throw us to the wolves w/o contingencies in place when he knew what WAS happening, and what WOULD follow. No one said this was going to be pretty but as we’ve seen- the normies aren’t even all waking up now (some are but not enough), so anything less than this certainly wasn’t going to awaken them. There has to be a plan or a reason that we gave up the power and high ground that ‘the good guys’ supposedly fought so far to gain. Everything you listed was coming to pass either way without DJT, plausibly far worse too, so I’m just hoping the white hat math checks out. But I agree, this is SO confusing and hard not to get demoralized. BUT, Trump only has to say the word and we would mobilize far greater that J6, consequences be damned, and he hasn’t done that, so I’m guessing we’re not quite to our end yet.
President Trump is still in power. The Devolutions series explained this all in detail. Everything we're seeing (and much we can't) is all part of the process. As always, Trust the plan.