Also John 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do: and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
Well if these kinds of energies do exist, conscious or not - it wouldn't necessarily make them supernatural (in the sense of Divine), but simply another aspect of the natural and/or spiritual world/cosmos. Creator/Divine isn't in the same category as all that is then created.
As an example - humans on Earth, after millennia developed technology to discover that sun & stars emit radio frequencies (vs. only the light and heat perceived by our unaided senses). But that doesn't mean radio waves are 'supernatural' - just more subtle or different than what our biologically based senses normally pick up. Even other animals have different sensory capacities.
As undoubtedly 'There are more things in heaven and Earth [let alone the rest of the cosmos] ... than are dreamt of in our philosophy.' Known and as yet unknown.
By Heaven's precious Grace, we DO have supernatural power - or at least, we can have access TO supernatural power. God has set up at least one way (and probably a lot more than I know about) for humans to OPEN themselves to God's ETERNAL-OMNICIENCE, WISDOM and HEALING.
OP, I don't post or even comment very often but I think there's a very important reason that I noticed your post. SO, I'm here to say there is MUCH more to what God is willing to share with us - ACROSS the spectrum of supernatural power - if we're willing to pursue relationship with Him as our highest priority. (Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness... Matthew. 6:33)
AND, it's important to note that God WILL NOT share supernatural power with those persons who are not 'aligned' with (lovingly obedient) to His gracious agenda. Remember, spiritual power that is not 'His' is power with which we don't want to dabble.
Psalm 22:3 gives us a glimpse of how we can open ourselves to God's supernatural presence - and my theory is that our Heavenly Father set up this capability to benefit us and all of the world around us. He did this on PURPOSE!
Through sincere PRAISE and THANKSGIVING ("But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel." Ps. 22:3) we open ourselves to be 'INHABITED' by God's precious Holy Spirit (yes, it can be VERY 'exciting'). HOWEVER, there's no point in trying to flatter God in order to receive 'power'. God looks on our hearts and God knows our intentions from the get-go. Those people who sincerely love God and love people and who want to serve God and His purposes are VERY qualified to receive the Spirit of The Holy One of Israel!
AND, our Heavenly Father WANTS relationship with us! Our Lord WANTS to share Holy Spirit power with us for the sake of making His Kingdom REAL in us and around us! Again, HE DID THIS ON PURPOSE! No, we don't pursue relationship with God for the sake of supernatural power (but seeing Heaven at work in our natural world can be a LOT of fun). But I believe God WANTS to especially empower those who will love Him and serve Him and who want to make His Kingdom REAL.
AND REMEMBER: Psalm 22 is the Scripture Jesus referenced from the Cross when He cried out to God! Probably WAYYY more than I know, there is a LOT going on in Psalm 22 but at least, this chapter tells us: "GOD WINS!!" AMEN!
Not catholic, don’t care what the pope says other than the fact that he is “leading” the catholic community further from Christianity (not that anyone of us can achieve perfect Christianity, but it should be our goal).
If some old and ancient religions want to bring up some old documents making claims, I could care less. It doesn’t affect my faith. It doesn’t change the foundation of my beliefs. It shouldn’t affect yours either.
It's called FAITH!
(F)eeling
(A)s
(I)f
(T)he thing
(H)as already happened.
Also John 14:12 Truly, Truly, I say to you, whoever believes in me will also do the works that I do: and greater works than these will he do, because I am going to the Father.
Amen.
If the vatican has them….never mind then.
We come into this world as pure conscious energy, we leave this world as pure conscious energy.
Exactly. The time in-between is when we wear our meat sack costume.
SauceFag Here.
Found this Link from 2010: https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2010/sep/08/vatican-secret-archives-pope
Well if these kinds of energies do exist, conscious or not - it wouldn't necessarily make them supernatural (in the sense of Divine), but simply another aspect of the natural and/or spiritual world/cosmos. Creator/Divine isn't in the same category as all that is then created.
As an example - humans on Earth, after millennia developed technology to discover that sun & stars emit radio frequencies (vs. only the light and heat perceived by our unaided senses). But that doesn't mean radio waves are 'supernatural' - just more subtle or different than what our biologically based senses normally pick up. Even other animals have different sensory capacities.
As undoubtedly 'There are more things in heaven and Earth [let alone the rest of the cosmos] ... than are dreamt of in our philosophy.' Known and as yet unknown.
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Point that common sense in a safe direction. 😬
By Heaven's precious Grace, we DO have supernatural power - or at least, we can have access TO supernatural power. God has set up at least one way (and probably a lot more than I know about) for humans to OPEN themselves to God's ETERNAL-OMNICIENCE, WISDOM and HEALING.
OP, I don't post or even comment very often but I think there's a very important reason that I noticed your post. SO, I'm here to say there is MUCH more to what God is willing to share with us - ACROSS the spectrum of supernatural power - if we're willing to pursue relationship with Him as our highest priority. (Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness... Matthew. 6:33)
AND, it's important to note that God WILL NOT share supernatural power with those persons who are not 'aligned' with (lovingly obedient) to His gracious agenda. Remember, spiritual power that is not 'His' is power with which we don't want to dabble.
Psalm 22:3 gives us a glimpse of how we can open ourselves to God's supernatural presence - and my theory is that our Heavenly Father set up this capability to benefit us and all of the world around us. He did this on PURPOSE!
Through sincere PRAISE and THANKSGIVING ("But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel." Ps. 22:3) we open ourselves to be 'INHABITED' by God's precious Holy Spirit (yes, it can be VERY 'exciting'). HOWEVER, there's no point in trying to flatter God in order to receive 'power'. God looks on our hearts and God knows our intentions from the get-go. Those people who sincerely love God and love people and who want to serve God and His purposes are VERY qualified to receive the Spirit of The Holy One of Israel!
AND, our Heavenly Father WANTS relationship with us! Our Lord WANTS to share Holy Spirit power with us for the sake of making His Kingdom REAL in us and around us! Again, HE DID THIS ON PURPOSE! No, we don't pursue relationship with God for the sake of supernatural power (but seeing Heaven at work in our natural world can be a LOT of fun). But I believe God WANTS to especially empower those who will love Him and serve Him and who want to make His Kingdom REAL.
AND REMEMBER: Psalm 22 is the Scripture Jesus referenced from the Cross when He cried out to God! Probably WAYYY more than I know, there is a LOT going on in Psalm 22 but at least, this chapter tells us: "GOD WINS!!" AMEN!
Oooops, us non-elite scum are not supposed to know about such things. Work 9-5+, pay your taxes and definitely never ask questions.
Now imagine the abilities of a being that could create all that energy in the first place....
It’s gone
Not catholic, don’t care what the pope says other than the fact that he is “leading” the catholic community further from Christianity (not that anyone of us can achieve perfect Christianity, but it should be our goal).
If some old and ancient religions want to bring up some old documents making claims, I could care less. It doesn’t affect my faith. It doesn’t change the foundation of my beliefs. It shouldn’t affect yours either.