Jesus is GOD
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Begotten does not mean created.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 1:10 He/Jesus was in the world, and the world was made by Him/Jesus, and the world knew Him/Jesus not. 1:14 And the Word was made flesh/Jesus, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. (Thank you, Wbrad, for posting the passage!)
God = His Word. Jesus claimed the personal name of God more than once.
He claimed it because he was given equality in purpose by God the Father, the 'Godhead'. He did not take up the name all by himself as he was born of the Father.
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."
begotten implies there was a time of non existence. On God the Father is the self existent one.
Cult
And this ends the discussion. Name calling in a topic of Christ.
History repeats, I do not agree with you so you are a cult and not a Christian.
On this board we seek to understand what is happening in the world around us. We see how history repeats itself. First intolerance and name calling. "Conspiracy", them censoring, finally violence. Read about Airan and the councils of the ad390.
Sadly so many comments here have been very unchristian, and are object lessons on what we see in this world.
Good luck on the future of your unchristian intolerance
You and your son are two distinct people who both share the trait of loving food. This has nothing to do with the relationship between the God the Father and God the Son. Jesus was not CREATED. Read the first part of the Gospel of John if you need to see it in scripture.
We’ve read it, dipshit. We don’t interpret it like you do. Get the fuck over yourself.
Everyone in this thread needs a fucking nap. Me most of all. I’m out.
I hope you had a good nap, brother. If I may ask in good faith, how else could you interpret such passages without the divinity of Christ?
Except that Christ never refers to himself as God- lots of scripture in which He distinguishes himself from His father. In John He says “ I will arise and go to my Father. ….and “ If you have known me, you have known my Father.” We come to God the Father through Christ the Son. God is our salvation. Jesus is the agent of that salvation. The Holy Spirit is the indwelling of that salvation.
Read the next few lines after the verse from John that OP posted.
Those listening to Him speak at the time understood His meaning. He was absolutely saying that He is God.
How else would you make sense out of statements like these?
A good one for this is John 17:3 (I think). Here he declares God the father as "the one true God" and also differentiates himself. So according to Jesus' own words, the father is "the one true God" and he is someone else, sent by God, the trinity can't be the one true God whom the father and Jesus both belong to
Correct. Jesus never referred to himself as God, as in the Father the self existent one is GOD. But Jesus has been given a throne, and is part of the 'Godhead', meaning he has been given equality with the Father in purpose that he did not seek on his own. So everything we see, feel, touch, taste ect, was created by the Son of God by having one purpose with his Father who is the original author of the idea of creation and created beings. Christ has been given much by his Father the self existent one.
I've made my decision. Make yours.
LORD = GOD
The 'spirit' or the Holy Spirit, in the King James in some verses the 'Holy Ghost' (not a really good word to use imho), is the power, presence, and personality of God the Father given to the Son then given to us in us.