You and your son are two distinct people who both share the trait of loving food. This has nothing to do with the relationship between the God the Father and God the Son. Jesus was not CREATED. Read the first part of the Gospel of John if you need to see it in scripture.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. - John 1:1-4
Except that Christ never refers to himself as God- lots of scripture in which He distinguishes himself from His father. In John He says “ I will arise and go to my Father. ….and “ If you have known me, you have known my Father.” We come to God the Father through Christ the Son. God is our salvation. Jesus is the agent of that salvation. The Holy Spirit is the indwelling of that salvation.
Read the next few lines after the verse from John that OP posted.
I and the Father are one.”
Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?”
“We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” - John 10:30-33
Those listening to Him speak at the time understood His meaning. He was absolutely saying that He is God.
How else would you make sense out of statements like these?
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.” - John 8:58
And he said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. - Luke 10:18
A good one for this is John 17:3 (I think).
Here he declares God the father as "the one true God" and also differentiates himself.
So according to Jesus' own words, the father is "the one true God" and he is someone else, sent by God, the trinity can't be the one true God whom the father and Jesus both belong to
Correct. Jesus never referred to himself as God, as in the Father the self existent one is GOD. But Jesus has been given a throne, and is part of the 'Godhead', meaning he has been given equality with the Father in purpose that he did not seek on his own. So everything we see, feel, touch, taste ect, was created by the Son of God by having one purpose with his Father who is the original author of the idea of creation and created beings. Christ has been given much by his Father the self existent one.
You and your son are two distinct people who both share the trait of loving food. This has nothing to do with the relationship between the God the Father and God the Son. Jesus was not CREATED. Read the first part of the Gospel of John if you need to see it in scripture.
We’ve read it, dipshit. We don’t interpret it like you do. Get the fuck over yourself.
Everyone in this thread needs a fucking nap. Me most of all. I’m out.
I hope you had a good nap, brother. If I may ask in good faith, how else could you interpret such passages without the divinity of Christ?
Except that Christ never refers to himself as God- lots of scripture in which He distinguishes himself from His father. In John He says “ I will arise and go to my Father. ….and “ If you have known me, you have known my Father.” We come to God the Father through Christ the Son. God is our salvation. Jesus is the agent of that salvation. The Holy Spirit is the indwelling of that salvation.
Read the next few lines after the verse from John that OP posted.
Those listening to Him speak at the time understood His meaning. He was absolutely saying that He is God.
How else would you make sense out of statements like these?
A good one for this is John 17:3 (I think). Here he declares God the father as "the one true God" and also differentiates himself. So according to Jesus' own words, the father is "the one true God" and he is someone else, sent by God, the trinity can't be the one true God whom the father and Jesus both belong to
Correct. Jesus never referred to himself as God, as in the Father the self existent one is GOD. But Jesus has been given a throne, and is part of the 'Godhead', meaning he has been given equality with the Father in purpose that he did not seek on his own. So everything we see, feel, touch, taste ect, was created by the Son of God by having one purpose with his Father who is the original author of the idea of creation and created beings. Christ has been given much by his Father the self existent one.