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I actually agree with this in many ways.
I’m a member of a nondenominational church and I always find it odd that most who attend nondenominational churches worship Jesus before God. Man,,,, was that a loaded statement!
When Jesus was asked “how do I pray?”, He stated “pray to your Father who is unseen”. Obviously, since Jesus was standing right there He wasn’t referring to Himself, but to God who is Heaven.
If interpreted correctly the Bible does say that Jesus said “I and the Father are one”. Yet, He never said He was God and early Christians didn’t say that either.
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Jesus claimed to be God. In the Gospels, Jesus made several statements and took actions that indicated his divinity. While he did not explicitly say the words, "I am God," he made claims and used titles that were understood to be equating himself with God. Jesus saying "I AM" was Him saying He was God however. Jesus claimed to be God was by using the phrase "I AM," which is associated with God's self-identification in the Old Testament. In the Gospel of John, Jesus made several statements using "I AM" to assert his divinity.
For example, in John 8:58, Jesus said, "Before Abraham was, I am." Here, he used the present tense "I am" to refer to his eternal existence, identifying himself with the same name that God used when speaking to Moses at the burning bush in Exodus 3:14. By using this phrase, Jesus implied his timeless and divine nature.
Furthermore, in John's Gospel, Jesus used several metaphors with "I AM" to describe himself, emphasizing his divine identity. He said, "I am the bread of life" (John 6:35), "I am the light of the world" (John 8:12), "I am the door" (John 10:9), "I am the good shepherd" (John 10:11), "I am the resurrection and the life" (John 11:25), "I am the way, the truth, and the life" (John 14:6), and "I am the true vine" (John 15:1). These statements convey Jesus' divine attributes and his central role in providing spiritual sustenance, guidance, and salvation.
By using the "I AM" statements and making these claims, Jesus equated himself with God, asserting his divinity.
One significant instance is found in the Gospel of John, where Jesus says, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). This statement echoes the name of God revealed to Moses in the Old Testament (Exodus 3:14) and suggests Jesus' eternal nature and divine existence. Additionally, Jesus referred to himself as the Son of God, which was understood as a claim to deity in the Jewish context of his time.
Furthermore, Jesus forgave sins, which was seen as an exclusive prerogative of God. In Mark 2:5-7, when Jesus forgave a paralyzed man's sins, the religious leaders accused him of blasphemy, as they recognized that only God had the authority to forgive sins.
Moreover, Jesus accepted worship from his disciples and others, which was reserved for God alone. In multiple instances, such as after his resurrection, people worshiped Jesus without him rebuking them or correcting their actions (e.g., Matthew 28:9, John 20:28).
These claims and actions, among others, led his followers to recognize and worship him as the divine Son of God, the second person of the Holy Trinity in Christian theology.
I could go alot deeper with many more examples but this is sufficient to prove you're wrong.
All early creeds and confessions of the church affirmed this historically. Your position is a classic form of heresy. The primary heresy that denies the divinity of Jesus is known as Arianism. Arianism is named after Arius, a Christian presbyter from Alexandria in the fourth century. Arius taught that Jesus, although a highly exalted being, was not fully God but rather a created being. According to Arianism, Jesus was the first and greatest of God's creations and was subordinate to the Father.
Arius' teachings gained significant attention and caused a major controversy within early Christianity. The Council of Nicaea in 325 AD was convened to address the issue, and it condemned Arianism as a heresy. The council formulated the Nicene Creed, which clearly affirms the full divinity of Jesus Christ, stating that Jesus is "begotten, not made, of one substance with the Father."
The rejection of Jesus' divinity is not limited to Arianism alone. Other heretical movements and groups throughout history, such as Socinianism and Jehovah's Witnesses, have also denied the full divinity of Jesus Christ, offering alternative understandings of his nature and role.
Orthodox Christian belief, as expressed in mainstream Christian denominations such as Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy, and most Protestant traditions, affirms the divinity of Jesus Christ and considers the denial of his divinity as heretical.
You need to repent. If you believe in a Jesus that is not God then you believe in a different Jesus. A Jesus that cannot save you.
Jesus did say that, but way before that (Exodus 3:14) God claimed that titled when He told Moses ..
Yeah, both are God. That's the point. No one but God uses that title.
God the Father & Jesus, God the Son
Notice Moses, unlike Jesus, didn't say he (Moses) was "I AM"?
HUGE category difference. Come on, you're better than that aren't you? That was either wildly inconsistent or intellectual dishonesty. Either way, not a good look.
Now address everything else because I took the time to slaughter your heretical position and false claims about the early church. I did this so you can be without excuse and hopefully repent or you WILL go to hell my friend. I don't want that and you certainly don't.
This isn't about being right or wrong, it's about alighting with scripture. Set aside your pride. You know you have no real argument at this point.
What I’m saying is Jesus was referring to God, not Him when He said “I Am”.
But he said, “No, don’t worship me. I am a servant of God, just like you and your brothers the prophets, as well as all who obey what is written in this book. Worship only God!” Revelations 22:9
I agree, and the way i interpreted what you said… jesus said I and the father are one… but he was implying that we are all one with the father…. We are god as god is within us all….