The same could be said of Republican voters pre-Trump. Every one of us was asleep at some point or another. The only difference is when and how we wake up.
I don't disagree at all and hope that those in the non-malevolent, wilfully-ignorant category can be reached and removed from the equation in time by waking them up. There seems to be some pushback in even criticizing those who are still behaving poorly and I'm going to hold my ground there. This awakening is, in fact, teaching people the hard way that there are actual, sometimes very bad, sometimes even fatal consequences for bad behavior and wilful ignorance.
Do I want any of these people to suffer? Absolutely not! I want every last one of them to awaken. Even looking at these radical, violent antifa turds I think of what a shame to see such energetic, physically healthy young people with such severe mental and/or moral deficiencies. I think this is why Q states that the [D] party will cease to exist. It's not that we want leftist individuals to "cease to exist" (as living, breathing people), but rather the party be exposed and for current leftists to walk away from it. I voted for Bush Jr - the first time - but could not, would not vote for his second term after seeing him in action. And I called out his bad behavior to friends on both sides of the aisle while he was behaving poorly.
... Furthermore, since they seem to be brainwashed by the FNM, the WH have made great strides in weaning many of them off the DS narrative teat. I'm one of those who wades into the detestable FNM swamp periodically to see what the left is being fed for narrative and it's been interesting to watch the changes.
I'm all for unity and allowing those strong enough to break their programming back into the fold, so to speak, but as long as those remaining on the left continue to reject both sides of an argument in favor of what they want or fear to be "true" I'll continue to consider them wilfully-ignorant.
Sorry, but have you tried to offer these people facts on a topic that they don't want to believe is true? I have, many times over the years (not just the recent jab data) and they refuse to even consider it. That's wilful ignorance. They want to believe in global cooling, global warming, climate change, standing room only or any number of other fear-inducing BS they get fed and no amount of data from actual scientists who aren't in line with the DS narrative will ever be even considered.
from their point of view, its simply unlikely that you're correct, and require more evidence. you're saying that providing evidence (exposure) will make a difference, so you can't also say they won't consider it, or evidence wouldn't work.
also, global cooling is not one of theirs.. isn't that a DJT quote?
The entirety of the democrat party defends, and even cheers the lawless behavior of the commie-democrats. There isn't even a question about it, just look at how they vote in congress- all for BS impeachments vs. Trump; all in support of the blatantly flawed fraud 2020 election; all in support of HRC and her crime spree; all in support of a zillion govt. coverups; all refuse to challenge the two-tier justice system; etc. And, all in support of Adam Schiff. Watch the clip of McCarthy censuring Schiff, and listen to the democrats yelling over him as if Schiff doesn't deserve the censure- they actually support his crimes too.
They are pathetic hypocrites, every single one of them. The whole party has embraced hypocrisy as its guiding principle. There is no "unity" to be had with people like that. Croakus Kennedy offers nothing for America, except to legitimize the worst of what the democrat party has become, and we cannot afford to give those outlaws even 1 inch of legitimacy.
the left is fueled by ignorance. plenty of their voters haven't even heard of whats going on. ...and there are those on the right who are just as uninformed, but vote red out of habit, maybe for a RINO every time.
it has cost our adversaries trillions to mislead humans to the degree they have been. and frankly it doesn't sound like you interact with anyone outside this echo chamber, and probably don't speak any more accurately about them than they do about us.
Your condescension towards a differing opinion aside, I have to disagree with you that anon u/ToxicLibertyism sounds like he/she doesn't interact with "anyone outside this echo chamber" and isn't speaking accurately about them. I have many friends on the left, some who have been friends for decades, and wilfully-ignorant, virtue-signaling and hypocritical are just a few of the many unflattering, but apt, descriptions of what these people are, particularly in the realm of politics. Furthermore, TL's description of the behavior of the left in Congress is absolutely true. I would also add that the left is fueled by FEAR.
When I say "all democrats..." it is in reference only to political figures. Individual voters are not the same as the party. The topic of the tread is Flynn foolishly thinking that there is any sort of "unity" to be found with elected democrats.
We as a people who care about protecting our nation, our society, and our way of life simply cannot afford to compromise with the deranged [elected party officials] democrats. They have all proven to be wicked hypocrites who consistently vote against the rule of law, and in support of criminal govt. abuses of power. They are controlled by actual communists determined to destroy every shred of this so-called "democracy" idea. There can never be "unity" with that ideology, period.
my condescension towards a differing opinion? while you defend dismissing a whole demographic as your stereotype of the worst of them? its just not based in reality. and it runs contrary to the mission of this website. the awakening is far from over. we have far too much waking to do to dismiss the case as hopeless. there are still plenty of moderate democrats that we can point to the right information to help them understand. the migration from the left to the right has increased from a trickle to a flood, as per the overton window.
so yeah, since we're here to wake people up, I think asserting we cannot counts as dooming. its not even true by your own measure, if you're waiting for 'exposure' to finally change some peoples mind. its frustrating to argue with friends or family who remain unconvinced, but its also ignorant to expect them to wake up on your timing instead of their own. so instead of venting about how hopeless it is, maybe just change your target, change your tactic, or pray on it.
unity with democrat voters is not the same as unity with the deep state.
"democrat voters" = wilfully-ignorant voters + malevolent commies.
I like the Q take on this -- that "... The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed. ..."
https://qalerts.app/?q=%232635
The same could be said of Republican voters pre-Trump. Every one of us was asleep at some point or another. The only difference is when and how we wake up.
I don't disagree at all and hope that those in the non-malevolent, wilfully-ignorant category can be reached and removed from the equation in time by waking them up. There seems to be some pushback in even criticizing those who are still behaving poorly and I'm going to hold my ground there. This awakening is, in fact, teaching people the hard way that there are actual, sometimes very bad, sometimes even fatal consequences for bad behavior and wilful ignorance.
Do I want any of these people to suffer? Absolutely not! I want every last one of them to awaken. Even looking at these radical, violent antifa turds I think of what a shame to see such energetic, physically healthy young people with such severe mental and/or moral deficiencies. I think this is why Q states that the [D] party will cease to exist. It's not that we want leftist individuals to "cease to exist" (as living, breathing people), but rather the party be exposed and for current leftists to walk away from it. I voted for Bush Jr - the first time - but could not, would not vote for his second term after seeing him in action. And I called out his bad behavior to friends on both sides of the aisle while he was behaving poorly.
how is it willful ignorance when there is a concerted and expensive effort to keep them ignorant?
if it were willfull ignorance, exposure wouldn't make any difference at all. luckily that, for the most part, isn't the case.
... Furthermore, since they seem to be brainwashed by the FNM, the WH have made great strides in weaning many of them off the DS narrative teat. I'm one of those who wades into the detestable FNM swamp periodically to see what the left is being fed for narrative and it's been interesting to watch the changes.
I'm all for unity and allowing those strong enough to break their programming back into the fold, so to speak, but as long as those remaining on the left continue to reject both sides of an argument in favor of what they want or fear to be "true" I'll continue to consider them wilfully-ignorant.
Sorry, but have you tried to offer these people facts on a topic that they don't want to believe is true? I have, many times over the years (not just the recent jab data) and they refuse to even consider it. That's wilful ignorance. They want to believe in global cooling, global warming, climate change, standing room only or any number of other fear-inducing BS they get fed and no amount of data from actual scientists who aren't in line with the DS narrative will ever be even considered.
from their point of view, its simply unlikely that you're correct, and require more evidence. you're saying that providing evidence (exposure) will make a difference, so you can't also say they won't consider it, or evidence wouldn't work.
also, global cooling is not one of theirs.. isn't that a DJT quote?
The entirety of the democrat party defends, and even cheers the lawless behavior of the commie-democrats. There isn't even a question about it, just look at how they vote in congress- all for BS impeachments vs. Trump; all in support of the blatantly flawed fraud 2020 election; all in support of HRC and her crime spree; all in support of a zillion govt. coverups; all refuse to challenge the two-tier justice system; etc. And, all in support of Adam Schiff. Watch the clip of McCarthy censuring Schiff, and listen to the democrats yelling over him as if Schiff doesn't deserve the censure- they actually support his crimes too.
They are pathetic hypocrites, every single one of them. The whole party has embraced hypocrisy as its guiding principle. There is no "unity" to be had with people like that. Croakus Kennedy offers nothing for America, except to legitimize the worst of what the democrat party has become, and we cannot afford to give those outlaws even 1 inch of legitimacy.
the left is fueled by ignorance. plenty of their voters haven't even heard of whats going on. ...and there are those on the right who are just as uninformed, but vote red out of habit, maybe for a RINO every time.
it has cost our adversaries trillions to mislead humans to the degree they have been. and frankly it doesn't sound like you interact with anyone outside this echo chamber, and probably don't speak any more accurately about them than they do about us.
Your condescension towards a differing opinion aside, I have to disagree with you that anon u/ToxicLibertyism sounds like he/she doesn't interact with "anyone outside this echo chamber" and isn't speaking accurately about them. I have many friends on the left, some who have been friends for decades, and wilfully-ignorant, virtue-signaling and hypocritical are just a few of the many unflattering, but apt, descriptions of what these people are, particularly in the realm of politics. Furthermore, TL's description of the behavior of the left in Congress is absolutely true. I would also add that the left is fueled by FEAR.
When I say "all democrats..." it is in reference only to political figures. Individual voters are not the same as the party. The topic of the tread is Flynn foolishly thinking that there is any sort of "unity" to be found with elected democrats.
We as a people who care about protecting our nation, our society, and our way of life simply cannot afford to compromise with the deranged [elected party officials] democrats. They have all proven to be wicked hypocrites who consistently vote against the rule of law, and in support of criminal govt. abuses of power. They are controlled by actual communists determined to destroy every shred of this so-called "democracy" idea. There can never be "unity" with that ideology, period.
my condescension towards a differing opinion? while you defend dismissing a whole demographic as your stereotype of the worst of them? its just not based in reality. and it runs contrary to the mission of this website. the awakening is far from over. we have far too much waking to do to dismiss the case as hopeless. there are still plenty of moderate democrats that we can point to the right information to help them understand. the migration from the left to the right has increased from a trickle to a flood, as per the overton window.
so yeah, since we're here to wake people up, I think asserting we cannot counts as dooming. its not even true by your own measure, if you're waiting for 'exposure' to finally change some peoples mind. its frustrating to argue with friends or family who remain unconvinced, but its also ignorant to expect them to wake up on your timing instead of their own. so instead of venting about how hopeless it is, maybe just change your target, change your tactic, or pray on it.