Veith's video in this series "Battle of the Bibles" is what convinced me of the truth of Scripture and led me to Christ.
With that being said, I don't believe Ellen White is a legitimate prophet. Many of her books are very good though because she plagiarised multiple Christian authors of old. Just skip the parts about herself and her prophecies and you're golden.
The 7th day Sabbath is Biblical. The Seventh Day Adventist doctrine of the Investigative Judgment is not.
I think there are two videos in this series dedicated to Ellen White. Other than those, the rest are outstanding.
Even the ones about Ellen White are worth watching as there's bits about what makes a prophet legitimate according to Biblical principles.
I disagree with Veith that White meets those standards, but I understand why he's so passionate about it. Roman Catholic nuns told him as an 8 year old boy his mother who had just died was in hell because she was a Protestant. Since Adventism embraces mostly traditional Protestantism and therefore identifies Rome as Mystery Babylon, it lines right up with his feelings about the Roman Catholic Church.
And I'll be honest. Most of the problems I have with Adventism are about interpretations that do not impact salvation.
Does it matter if they believe Christ in his role as high priest stepped into the inner chambers of the heavenly sanctuary in 1844? (This is the Investigative Judgment teaching, their interpretation of the 2300 day prophecy in Daniel 8.)
As long as they don't deny Christ is the high priest, I don't think it does.
I do think it's fruitful to study Adventist theology as 99% of it is a snapshot of what all Christians believed before Dispensationalism took hold.
I am so glad you came to know Christ through this series
Craziest thing about this story. I was indirectly converted thanks to an atheist.
I was an agnostic who was raised Roman Catholic and rejected Christianity in my teens when I realized the Roman Catholic Church was just making things up.
I had learned about the so-called "Immaculate Conception of Mary" which was declared doctrine by a Pope in 1954.
I could find no evidence of that in my Bible, and I asked questions in my Religion class and the answers were not satisfactory. I became an agnostic due to this.
In college, I looked into other religions other than Christianity and smoked a lot of weed. Nothing I found in that research fulfilled me.
In 2007, I moved down to Georgia because the economy in Michigan had already collapsed, foreshadowing 2008 meltdown nationwide.
Got a job right away and started dating my future wife several months later. Due to her schedule, we often had to spend time together on Sundays.
She was attending a mega church and asked me if I wanted to attend just to see their band and then get lunch afterwards. The drummer was Phil Ehart from the rock band Kansas.
So I agreed.
She was in a Bible study sponsored by the megachurch and one of her friends joined us for lunch with her son and her ex-husband, the atheist, who was picking up the son for visitation. Her ex had dropped in near the end of the service and saw some bible verses on the screen.
At lunch, he asked me what NIV listed at the end of the bible verses stood for. I told him I knew it was a Bible version but wasn't exactly sure what the letters represented.
He immediately attacked me.
"What kind of Christian are you?"
When I replied, "I'm not", my future wife jumped in and explained everything, he immediately apologized and that was that.
Since this was 2007, I couldn't look up the answer on my smart phone, but now I was dying to know what it meant.
When I got home, I Googled it and found out it stood for the New International Version. I also discovered an entire world I didn't even know existed, where people were battling over which Bible version was correct.
I was always big into researching things I am exposed to and know nothing about, and I was hooked, mostly out of curiosity.
I was in tears by the end of the video, and I was also angry. Many of the contradictions I had found in my Roman Catholic bible were due to these altered verses.
I bought a large print KJV bible and dug right in after this. Got baptized not long after.
To me, and I might be very alone with this perspective, Q is God's army on earth, and it is for a very long time. Anti-Q people ridicule me for this view, they just call Q a Jesuit psyop delivered by the CIA, but I truely believe that they are wrong. They just associate Q with Pizzagate and call us crazy cospiracy theorists.
Without Q, I/we would never ever have researched the dimensions of what is going on, so why would a CIA psyop lead me/us to free thinking, to research the true rulers of the world? It always leads to Masons -> Jesuits -> Roman Catholic Church -> the 13 families.
These topics are very vague in the drops, but somehow Q unleashed a curiosity to question and research everything. An energy to withstand the powers that be. And finally: Q brought me back to God. I didn't expect that.
It's layers over layers, and with all the Q hate going on atm, I don't have a doubt that Q is legit. Sure, it fits the Masonic gameplay of thesis and antithesis, but in a very subtle way, it managed to break this concept.
I have no issue with this post being stickied, it's important knowledge, and if people believe in Q or not: I couldn't care less. They'll find out. Or I'll find out that I'm wrong. Who knows. In the end, God decides out fate. Trust him.
Adventists originated with a guy who calculated the date of the “Second Coming” and led his flock to sell or give away everything in preparation, but got it wrong. Repeatedly. Kinda Jim Jonesey for me, but whatever gets people on their knees to Jesus Christ is okay I guess. I mean, it’s pretty brave to claim to have uniquely interpreted the “true meaning” of the text, or decoded “hidden messages”. I’d be afraid of God’s wrath for doing such a thing. Seems crazy to me. Maybe it’s all part of God’s plan. It’s not for me to say.
Once upon a time there was Orthodoxy and heresy, but somebody opened up a Pandora’s box of squabbling denominations.
Nothing changes. The patristics had their Gnostics, Arians, Montanists, etc. Irinaeus explains it all, and why heresies undermine salvation, but what did he know? He was a primitive savage. (Not). Full disclosure: I’m also no fan of Masons, Jesuits Templars or any other secret societies though they are fascinating to study.
Sounds a lot like the Q journey to me. Curious why you see the two so differently.
Ex: Many in our community (myself incl.) thought Xiden would never be inaugurated, that the Military would step in sooner, constantly looking for those hidden messages and proofs. And getting some details wrong. That doesn't change our resolve to trust the plan and keep on keeping on.
We are ridiculed and called names too, but we drive on with our convictions. Seems ironic to me. I respect the fact that people are passionate about Biblical study and dedication, even if they get some stuff wrong (and a lot right I might add).
I get where you're coming from. Other than the investigative judgement, the rest of the beliefs were held by the reformers 500 years ago. The rest of the churches have disregarded those beliefs.
This is a great series. This is what brought my wife to Christ several years ago. Walter is a strong proponent of Adventism. I tried it. It seems they have strayed from the original teachings. Less about Jesus and more about law keeping these days. They have aligned with the Vatican and sadly, lost their way. I love Wlater though.
Veith's video in this series "Battle of the Bibles" is what convinced me of the truth of Scripture and led me to Christ.
With that being said, I don't believe Ellen White is a legitimate prophet. Many of her books are very good though because she plagiarised multiple Christian authors of old. Just skip the parts about herself and her prophecies and you're golden.
The 7th day Sabbath is Biblical. The Seventh Day Adventist doctrine of the Investigative Judgment is not.
I think there are two videos in this series dedicated to Ellen White. Other than those, the rest are outstanding.
Even the ones about Ellen White are worth watching as there's bits about what makes a prophet legitimate according to Biblical principles.
I disagree with Veith that White meets those standards, but I understand why he's so passionate about it. Roman Catholic nuns told him as an 8 year old boy his mother who had just died was in hell because she was a Protestant. Since Adventism embraces mostly traditional Protestantism and therefore identifies Rome as Mystery Babylon, it lines right up with his feelings about the Roman Catholic Church.
And I'll be honest. Most of the problems I have with Adventism are about interpretations that do not impact salvation.
Does it matter if they believe Christ in his role as high priest stepped into the inner chambers of the heavenly sanctuary in 1844? (This is the Investigative Judgment teaching, their interpretation of the 2300 day prophecy in Daniel 8.)
As long as they don't deny Christ is the high priest, I don't think it does.
I do think it's fruitful to study Adventist theology as 99% of it is a snapshot of what all Christians believed before Dispensationalism took hold.
Craziest thing about this story. I was indirectly converted thanks to an atheist.
I was an agnostic who was raised Roman Catholic and rejected Christianity in my teens when I realized the Roman Catholic Church was just making things up.
I had learned about the so-called "Immaculate Conception of Mary" which was declared doctrine by a Pope in 1954.
(As an aside, the Jesuits are proud of that one - https://jesuitonlinelibrary.bc.edu/?a=d&d=wlet19541101-01.2.6&e=-------en-20--1--txt-txIN------- )
I could find no evidence of that in my Bible, and I asked questions in my Religion class and the answers were not satisfactory. I became an agnostic due to this.
In college, I looked into other religions other than Christianity and smoked a lot of weed. Nothing I found in that research fulfilled me.
In 2007, I moved down to Georgia because the economy in Michigan had already collapsed, foreshadowing 2008 meltdown nationwide.
Got a job right away and started dating my future wife several months later. Due to her schedule, we often had to spend time together on Sundays.
She was attending a mega church and asked me if I wanted to attend just to see their band and then get lunch afterwards. The drummer was Phil Ehart from the rock band Kansas.
So I agreed.
She was in a Bible study sponsored by the megachurch and one of her friends joined us for lunch with her son and her ex-husband, the atheist, who was picking up the son for visitation. Her ex had dropped in near the end of the service and saw some bible verses on the screen.
At lunch, he asked me what NIV listed at the end of the bible verses stood for. I told him I knew it was a Bible version but wasn't exactly sure what the letters represented.
He immediately attacked me.
"What kind of Christian are you?"
When I replied, "I'm not", my future wife jumped in and explained everything, he immediately apologized and that was that.
Since this was 2007, I couldn't look up the answer on my smart phone, but now I was dying to know what it meant.
When I got home, I Googled it and found out it stood for the New International Version. I also discovered an entire world I didn't even know existed, where people were battling over which Bible version was correct.
I was always big into researching things I am exposed to and know nothing about, and I was hooked, mostly out of curiosity.
Ended up coming across this video of Veith's "Battle of the Bibles"- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9cFmY5G3H0
I followed up by watching the next one on the playlist "Changing the Word" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzrC8eb21w8
I was in tears by the end of the video, and I was also angry. Many of the contradictions I had found in my Roman Catholic bible were due to these altered verses.
I bought a large print KJV bible and dug right in after this. Got baptized not long after.
I've seen several but not even half of the Total Onslaught series and they have all been very eye-opening.
Nevertheless his information is worth a look. This war has many sides.
To me, and I might be very alone with this perspective, Q is God's army on earth, and it is for a very long time. Anti-Q people ridicule me for this view, they just call Q a Jesuit psyop delivered by the CIA, but I truely believe that they are wrong. They just associate Q with Pizzagate and call us crazy cospiracy theorists.
Without Q, I/we would never ever have researched the dimensions of what is going on, so why would a CIA psyop lead me/us to free thinking, to research the true rulers of the world? It always leads to Masons -> Jesuits -> Roman Catholic Church -> the 13 families.
These topics are very vague in the drops, but somehow Q unleashed a curiosity to question and research everything. An energy to withstand the powers that be. And finally: Q brought me back to God. I didn't expect that.
It's layers over layers, and with all the Q hate going on atm, I don't have a doubt that Q is legit. Sure, it fits the Masonic gameplay of thesis and antithesis, but in a very subtle way, it managed to break this concept.
I have no issue with this post being stickied, it's important knowledge, and if people believe in Q or not: I couldn't care less. They'll find out. Or I'll find out that I'm wrong. Who knows. In the end, God decides out fate. Trust him.
I think it was only about 53 hours. I watched it about ten years ago and it was a lot of work to chew through.
Adventists originated with a guy who calculated the date of the “Second Coming” and led his flock to sell or give away everything in preparation, but got it wrong. Repeatedly. Kinda Jim Jonesey for me, but whatever gets people on their knees to Jesus Christ is okay I guess. I mean, it’s pretty brave to claim to have uniquely interpreted the “true meaning” of the text, or decoded “hidden messages”. I’d be afraid of God’s wrath for doing such a thing. Seems crazy to me. Maybe it’s all part of God’s plan. It’s not for me to say.
Once upon a time there was Orthodoxy and heresy, but somebody opened up a Pandora’s box of squabbling denominations. Nothing changes. The patristics had their Gnostics, Arians, Montanists, etc. Irinaeus explains it all, and why heresies undermine salvation, but what did he know? He was a primitive savage. (Not). Full disclosure: I’m also no fan of Masons, Jesuits Templars or any other secret societies though they are fascinating to study.
Sounds a lot like the Q journey to me. Curious why you see the two so differently.
Ex: Many in our community (myself incl.) thought Xiden would never be inaugurated, that the Military would step in sooner, constantly looking for those hidden messages and proofs. And getting some details wrong. That doesn't change our resolve to trust the plan and keep on keeping on.
We are ridiculed and called names too, but we drive on with our convictions. Seems ironic to me. I respect the fact that people are passionate about Biblical study and dedication, even if they get some stuff wrong (and a lot right I might add).
I get where you're coming from. Other than the investigative judgement, the rest of the beliefs were held by the reformers 500 years ago. The rest of the churches have disregarded those beliefs.
Who gives a fuck? The Decodes of symbols is 💯
Don’t really care, Jesus Christ , & Holy Trinity.. is all that matters… let the chips fall where they may…
I have many escape plans. And have ways to make it happen,,, // if everything goes side-ways// to help Gods People.
(I Obviously heavily respect Q and Donald J Trump)
Never trust Man.. Always trust The True God.
Damn. This guy knows his stuff. Thanks for finding this. Great thing to share with people who are trying to understand what I am always on about.
"Jesus is at the door" ...
Head of the Hydra … Freemasonry is the Deep$tate.
-90’s Rave Movement- $3L7ing of $0UL$. C.1A. $oro$:king Toad: ..(not.frog) Deep Intelligence…. Front Lines.
Jesus is King!
Ha
Thanks for posting this lecture.
This. This is what I've been thinking is happening and this dude points it all out. Wow.
The topic definitely looks interesting.
looks like a good presentation.
'we shall give them memes and continue with more memes'
thanks for posting
Thank you
This is a great series. This is what brought my wife to Christ several years ago. Walter is a strong proponent of Adventism. I tried it. It seems they have strayed from the original teachings. Less about Jesus and more about law keeping these days. They have aligned with the Vatican and sadly, lost their way. I love Wlater though.
This series should absolutely be a part of the waking up protocol.
Watching the Islam one. All of the research I've done is being put into an easily digested lecture.
Wow. Can't believe I just found this...