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That's man made organization. I'm speaking of Christ like organization. Jesus is a powerful organizer. One might say he is the tippy top. King of King Lord of Lords
One might say that, but that would be ones belief. If one does not believe that, then different beliefs are ones path.
We don't need to be "organized." Organization is the opposite of personal revelation.
Personally, I think Jesus was trying to tell us something very similar to what the Buddha was trying to tell us:
"I am the Son of God."
"You are All Children of God."
-- Jesus
He wasn't saying he was the "Lord or Lords" or even "Lord" of anything.
"Thou art God."
-- Buddha
It seems to me they are both trying to tell us we are ALL Split-Aparts from Source. Same words, same message, but many who call themselves "Christian" interpret that very differently. My interpretation focuses on all of the words attributed to Jesus in all of the Gospels, not just the ones in the book we got as "truth."
My interpretation, and spiritual path, ignores the "teachings" of Saul, a known agent of the Pharisees (and very likely controlled opposition agent). It ignores the teachings of the Torah and the rest of the OT; all books written by the Priest Class of Jews (the same people that rule the world today). Once you dig in, you find the OT has been so badly mistranslated into English that it completely misses the fact that it talks about numerous gods, and explicitly states (in context with other religions of the region) that El was the creator, and Yahweh the usurper.
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me." "My name is Jealous." These are just some of the explicit statements of Yahweh that insist that we ignore HIS father, El (not to mention his brother Ba'al).
When you actually read the OT, it becomes immediately obvious that Yahweh was a racist, slaver, and misogynist, who demanded blood sacrifices and first born children as both slaves and for their blood, not to mention a murderer of innocent children (has anyone who calls themselves "Christian" actually read the Passover story?).
The idea of "Lord of Lords" comes from a book that was decided upon three full centuries after Jesus' death, leaving out more books that were doctrine at the time than it included, by people who set up "Christianity" as the de facto religion of the Roman Empire to unite the entire Empire under one religious doctrine, setting up the Emperor as a God-King (religious and political leader). The ideas of "Lord of Lord," and "Trinity," etc. were enforced at that time and written into law (Codex Theodosianus) to ensure that people either believed that "truth" or were punished as heretics. The standard Christian dogma literally comes from Roman Law, written three to four centuries after Jesus. How many Christians actually realize this?
Why don't they?
Your beliefs are not my beliefs. That doesn't make me right and/or you wrong, but please don't try to "organize" my beliefs to align with yours.
That would be a sin.
This!
The end of “organized religion” will come after the dismantling of the Nicene dogma. After that, the pre-Nicene sects such as Nazarene, Ebionite and Gnosticism will once again flourish.
To ignore the scripture is to deny the sovereignty of God. You read scripture with your own understanding and throw out what doesn't fit u. You also have grossly miss understood it however not gonna get in the theological talks tonight. Someday the whole world will bow before Jesus feet. I encourage you to truly seek him out before that moment comes. There is only one truth and that truth is JESUS CHRIST. U can deny it and that's your free will choice. I'm simply sharing the good news of Jesus Christ for those with the ear to hear. Jesus most definitely is the King of King, Lord of Lords. Have a blessed night though. I pray u will come to Jesus so u can walk that narrow path and begin kingdom building with us. All else will be burnt away. ☝️✝️👑🌈
You believe that. From my perspective I have dug into the evidence and found some very interesting pieces of information that are ignored.
You assume that, but that doesn't make it true. I spent three decades of my life studying this. I'm ready and willing to discuss this with any amount of evidence and argument you wish. However, if I do, you must actually read the evidence I show and address it directly. So far, no one who responds as you have actually has.
I promise you, I will not bow to anyone. Not ever. Not because I think myself "better than," nothing could be further from the truth. It is because I recognize that I am not "less than," and the idea that I am was created by the exact same group that rules the world today, by that exact belief that they created.
I'm gonna be just fine. Please don't worry about me or my soul.
The Truth is whatever It Is. I am happy for you that you think you know it, but I disagree with your assessment, and I think you have been brainwashed by the Priest class of Jews. There is a ton of evidence to support it. I gave you a smidge, and you didn't actually address a single word of it, rather you dismissed it as you were programmed to do with "you grossly misunderstood," and "you throw out what doesn't fit your belief."
No, I laid out explicit protests and you ignored it all. THAT is what actually happened.
Thank you. I feel the exact same way after my own decades of investigation - the kind of investigation that's necessity because you MUST know - because it's like a splinter in your very core. An existential crisis. You have no choice but to seek out the truth, often venturing where few are strong enough to allow themselves to go to arrive at it. Certainly not because I needed a hobby or because anyone else told me to do it or believe it.
So many missed the Christ's message - whether he walked the earth or not - his entire message is that you are and can be Christ. He is the example. Same with the Buddha. This fantasy that Jesus is going to come back and make everything heaven on earth is such a cop out. It's no different than expecting superman or some other savior to fix everything. It's very immature. Most that believe it haven't even tasted a glimpse of Christ consciousness because they haven't been spoon fed that or instructed to attempt it.
Such is the nature of believing vs knowing. There's a HUGE difference. When your spirt KNOWS the truth, through experience, you no longer assume the role of second class citizen/spirit by default... and therefore, bow to no one. I doubt many have really thought about what kind of being would want to be worshipped. It's repugnant. The true God would never need or want that. It'd be like a girl/boy friend that relentlessly worshipped the ground you walked on... that would get pretty annoying, pretty quickly. But few can allow themselves to even consider that perspective or even try on the thought of it... and so it goes.
Yes the whole meh Jews bad thing instantly shows that u haven't truly read the bible nor understood it(Jews vs synagogue of Satan). Like I said u are free to see what ever false ideas you can make up. I much rather spend my time talking with the Christians so we can begin building up the kingdom. To much good work to do to argue with a hardened heart. Only Jesus can remove the scales from your eyes. I truly pray he does so u can experience a peace and joy like u have never experienced. I promise u that someday u will bow before his feet. Wether u are with him or against him. It all belongs to him. Turn to him. Lean not on your own understanding. Praise the Lord. Jesus Christ is King. Thank you Jesus. Continue to guide us and bring your lost sheep home.
Praying for your soul my fren. Have a blessed night. Im here if/when you decide to turn to Jesus and we can talk more.
I'm off to bed. Good night
Eh? Its not a sin to try to change your mind. As for us being God, self worship is part of the new secular religion of Gaia that the cabal is trying to establish, along with the worship of nature.
Can you show me where Buddha said that we are god?
I studied Buddhism with intensity for about three years, spending most of my weekends and no few weeks in retreat (at various Buddhist temples). However, it has been a couple decades since my time studying Buddhism, and at least that long since I have read Buddhist specific teachings or the Eightfold Path, etc.. So, no, I can't tell you that he said those words, but I can tell you why I said he said those words.
Buddhism is all about an appreciation of our connection to Source. It is about realizing that the world of the physical is just an illusion, an emergent property of something more fundamental. Insight meditation, a central core practice of Buddhism is about learning how to listen to the Source and appreciating our connection to it. Everything in the teachings of the Buddha center around that connection. In the teachings of the Buddha, you are Source. Your soul cycles (rebirth) through Samsara (the illusionary planes of existence) until you reach a fundamental understanding of your connection to Source (Nirvana), that you, the fundamental you, your soul is Source.
"Thou art God" is actually a quote from Stranger in a Strange Land, by Robert Heinlein, but it is fundamental to the teachings of the Buddha, if you replace the Christian concept of "God" (a separate Ruling entity) with the idea of "The Source of all Things."
So you can't show me. Buddhist enlightenment is nothing more than a natural process in the amglydia which can be reproduced electro acoustically.
I wasn't talking about "trying to change my mind," I was explicitly talking about the system of mind control and brainwashing inherent in any system that "organizes" belief. I believe that was obvious in context.
Who said anything about "worship?" Why should we "worship" anything? A recognition of self as meaningful and connected is not worship.
The fraud of the Christian dogma we got (which is no where present in the actual teachings of Jesus), is the separation of us from God. All of everything (science, the teachings of Jesus, the teachings of Buddha, numerous religions that existed prior to Christianity and Judaism, etc.) suggests that we are fundamentally tied to the Fundamental AKA Source AKA God. All of our present day dogmas try to separate us from the Fundamental, even though everything points to that connection. Science does it by showing the connection, but insisting that the Fundamental isn't intelligent, all the while they purposefully avoid actually looking to see if there is any evidence to support the dogma that is insisted upon. But the Abrahamic Religions do it in a different way. They try to both separate us from that Source AND tell us to "bow down to him," "fear him," etc..
The very idea of a "male" Source should be a huge red flag. The idea of ascribing such human limits and concepts to the Source of all things is ludicrous, yet it is insisted upon within the Dogma. Anything in the teachings that makes literally no sense at all, or is obviously contradictory, is assumed to be perfectly fine and rectified through the use of Faith. It is by Faith alone that YHWH literally get's away with murder, and everyone insists we must worship Him.
You gotta have Faith.
But we also have intelligence. The application of faith often includes the demand that we forgo that intellect or the red flags we see. We have intelligence because we are tied to the Fundamental. We are the Fundamental. Of course we are. All things are, but we are special because our intelligence is tied to our soul, which is nothing but a forever tied part, a Platonic Split-Apart of the Fundamental Intelligence. (I am only using the concept of the split-apart, I am not espousing the teachings of Plato.)
The Big Lie is that we are separate. Another lie that keeps Christians in a box is that the religion that the Cabal wants to take us into is all wrong. The Cabal picks and chooses from the larger scope of Truth, using little pieces of actual truth, and twists them into a box. The Cabal doesn't usually tell lies, they tell the truth in a scope of their choosing. That is how all sides are controlled. Each side gets a different piece of the truth, but without all the context any lie can be told and a box created. In the case of "the new religion," the Cabal takes an appreciation of our obvious connection to Source and twist it into a formal Religion. With a practiced hand, they create the Dogma and fill in the gaps with Faith, rather than just allowing everyone to appreciate, on their own, that their soul is Divine, and so is everyone else's.
We are all born equally Divine. Of course we are. That is obvious. There is no room for "self-worship" in that realization. But we have been brainwashed to not appreciate that Divinity in self, or in others. We have been separated from Source, and thus separated from ourselves, and separated from others.
Divide and Conquer.
But with that much separation, we are far worse off than "conquered," our very souls have been enslaved.
I'm trying to "spread the good word." If you read the book of Thomas you will appreciate what I am saying here. Of course that's a "Gnostic gospel" and thus forbidden, but I suggest you read it, and release all the overlay that Saul put on top of the words of Jesus. Christian dogma comes more from Saul's interpretation of Jesus' words than from his words themselves. I think it is highly likely that he was a disinformation agent. I don't ask you to believe that, I just ask you to allow for the possibility, then read the Gospel of Thomas.
Your soul is free, if you just allow it to be. You keep it in the box of their creation. If you understand that, you understand everything.
Showing people the box is the hardest part. We have been trained to not look at it. Looking at the walls of the box makes you a Heretic, or a Conspiracy Theorist. Those are the worst people you can be. They are the very dregs of society. You do NOT want to be one of those people. Thus the box protects itself.
Lol. Its all my fault then?
Bullshit baffles brains.
It's still not to late to turn to Jesus my friend. He loves you more than u can ever know. Put aside your ego masked in perceived understanding and follow the king of Kings. U will not regret it. That new age stuff is a dead end road and will lead to destruction. Jesus brings life
I am with you 100% but you're going to tread on a lot of toes. You either get it or you don't, and many people's only understanding and experience comes through an organised church, making you a heretical blasphemer in their eyes
You can't "get it" if you aren't exposed to it. I keep trying different ways of broaching the subject. I'm batting about .050, which isn't very good, but I think I'll figure out the intro eventually.
I was only ever exposed to catholic tradition and doctrine, it wasn't until I had a direct personal experience of something that I was drawn to the eastern traditions in order to try to make sense of exactly what it was that I had experienced. Whatever you wish to call it drew me down that path, it's not something I set out to do previously, and that is why I'll never turn my back and adopt the 'one true religion', because I know what I have experienced to be true. I've had to sort of piece things together and retcon things. Basically I've learned over time to how to see the similarities between my 'eastern' and gnostic style beliefs and classic western Jesusism. But I'm terrible at explaining it and it just sounds like heresy to the certain people. It's just exactly as you said.