I'll never understand why anyone would be against them. It keeps people rotating in and forces new blood, which either forces the powers that be to spread themselves (their secrets, their money) too thin or fear being outed by making the offer that can't be refused to the wrong person.
As it stands right now, it's a club that is bought with long tenures of servitude by those who have a stranglehold on their respective districts. It'd be easy to pay them as if they were normal salaried workers because some have been in for decades.
Part of the problem is the unelected bureaucrats. They stay for life. So if you send a greenhorn to capitol hill every 4 years they will be taken for a ride by the lifers behind the scenes. But we already have that anyway except now it's a lifelong partnership so i dont see much downside
If we had free and honest, citizen only, voting then term limits may not be such an issue.
If politicians could not enrich themselves through graf, if politicians could not retire and go directly to industry to sell access then maybe term limits would not be an issue. Just sayin.
It could be a negative. Keep the good ones! Members who will not/ cannot support the Constitution for The People can be voted out when the time comes where people are not “ installed” in government.
I have mixed feelings about term limits. CA has term limits and it got worse. All they do is jump from job to job and it is an unaccountable faceless bureaucracy running the show. I wonder now if that was by design or an unintended consequence they just took advantage of - who knows?
Several years ago, I talked with someone who was a lobbyist in Sacramento for the insurance industry. She said she hated term limits because just as people were getting up to speed, they would term out and she had to start from ground zero to get them to understand the basics. She had worked pre-term limits and said while there were challenges, people understood the issues.
Today, representatives tend to be 10 miles wide and 10 inches deep on any topic, which is a big part of the problem.
I would like to see term limits expanded to include something like you have to sit out a couple of cycles before you can run and no sitting on lobbying boards. It is not your career.
I'll never understand why anyone would be against them. It keeps people rotating in and forces new blood, which either forces the powers that be to spread themselves (their secrets, their money) too thin or fear being outed by making the offer that can't be refused to the wrong person.
As it stands right now, it's a club that is bought with long tenures of servitude by those who have a stranglehold on their respective districts. It'd be easy to pay them as if they were normal salaried workers because some have been in for decades.
Just need to add some clarity to your statement. I’d never understand why anyone “who’s not corrupt” would be against them. 😉
Part of the problem is the unelected bureaucrats. They stay for life. So if you send a greenhorn to capitol hill every 4 years they will be taken for a ride by the lifers behind the scenes. But we already have that anyway except now it's a lifelong partnership so i dont see much downside
If we had free and honest, citizen only, voting then term limits may not be such an issue. If politicians could not enrich themselves through graf, if politicians could not retire and go directly to industry to sell access then maybe term limits would not be an issue. Just sayin.
It could be a negative. Keep the good ones! Members who will not/ cannot support the Constitution for The People can be voted out when the time comes where people are not “ installed” in government.
How do you judge which are the good ones? They may be playing their role until they are told to stab you in the back.
I have mixed feelings about term limits. CA has term limits and it got worse. All they do is jump from job to job and it is an unaccountable faceless bureaucracy running the show. I wonder now if that was by design or an unintended consequence they just took advantage of - who knows?
Several years ago, I talked with someone who was a lobbyist in Sacramento for the insurance industry. She said she hated term limits because just as people were getting up to speed, they would term out and she had to start from ground zero to get them to understand the basics. She had worked pre-term limits and said while there were challenges, people understood the issues. Today, representatives tend to be 10 miles wide and 10 inches deep on any topic, which is a big part of the problem.
I would like to see term limits expanded to include something like you have to sit out a couple of cycles before you can run and no sitting on lobbying boards. It is not your career.
In fairness... California is not exactly the paragon of this country in terms of who would be running for office.
I do not disagree, but 30 years ago, prior to enacting term limits, things were a bit more, shall we say, balanced.
Calif has some of the worst voter fraud in the country.
That's the main reason these criminals and traitors keep getting elected over and over again.
Yeah, similarly police need to be on rotating teams to keep the bad people clumping together.