Imagine designing these batteries, they are essentially small bombs, a source of constant heat that last for days on end. Glad I'm not the terrorists the government claims us all to be, however scary that if someone like myself with no degree or science background can come up that thought then you know there are people out there with the smarts to have already thought this through.
"but these fires don't need that type of oxygen to keep going," said Kelliher Berkoh."
how many different types of oxygen are there? also, "No one was injured and no dangerous chemicals were emitted from the fire." what chemicals were emitted due to the fire? sounds like bullshit to me.
And we know after years and years of use that they’re incredibly safe and stable under the right protected conditions. The question is how are we going to achieve this in vehicles
IMHO, a big part of the problem is rushing these vehicles to market before the tech is matured. Seems they took the model big tech used of beta testing on consumers and applied it to vehicles despite a century of experience showing how badly that works.
They knew the problems, they just didn't give a shit because they're not being held responsible for their unsafe, dangerous products. These days you can get away with anything as long as it's marketed as "eco-friendly". So they're going to continue using the cheapest, shoddiest methods out there. Why research and build new factories for vehicle-safe fuel cells? Much easier and cheaper to use existing manufacturing chains and slap together phone batteries into unstoppable chemical fires.
And we know after years and years of use that they’re incredibly safe and stable under the right protected conditions.
Those conditions are NOT vehicle conditions. Lithium batteries were developed for small handheld devices with low energy needs, used in conditions safe enough for an unprotected human. In contrast, vehicles are large heavy machines with high energy needs, which need to reliably perform under dangerous, stressful high speed conditions that would kill an unprotected human.
The question is how are we going to achieve this in vehicles
It's simple: DON'T USE LITHIUM BATTERIES FOR VEHICLES. Those batteries are meant for laptops and phones, not vehicles. Use something else.
Imagine designing these batteries, they are essentially small bombs, a source of constant heat that last for days on end. Glad I'm not the terrorists the government claims us all to be, however scary that if someone like myself with no degree or science background can come up that thought then you know there are people out there with the smarts to have already thought this through.
I know if I owned an EV (which I won't) I would never park it in my garage or near my house while charging it.
👀 Looking suspiciously at the "Smart Meter" on the side of my house. 👀
Utopias' Gonna Be GRAND!!
Introducing the newest electric vehicle. The "Chernobyl"
Lithium batteries are "safe & effective" - until you bash a nail through (whack and run!).
"but these fires don't need that type of oxygen to keep going," said Kelliher Berkoh."
how many different types of oxygen are there? also, "No one was injured and no dangerous chemicals were emitted from the fire." what chemicals were emitted due to the fire? sounds like bullshit to me.
"how many different types of oxygen are there?"
This comment should win the internet today! Sadly not enough people will see it. But it has my vote for winning the internet on 21 Aug 2023!
Lithium batteries are volatile under certain conditions.
And we know after years and years of use that they’re incredibly safe and stable under the right protected conditions. The question is how are we going to achieve this in vehicles
IMHO, a big part of the problem is rushing these vehicles to market before the tech is matured. Seems they took the model big tech used of beta testing on consumers and applied it to vehicles despite a century of experience showing how badly that works.
They knew the problems, they just didn't give a shit because they're not being held responsible for their unsafe, dangerous products. These days you can get away with anything as long as it's marketed as "eco-friendly". So they're going to continue using the cheapest, shoddiest methods out there. Why research and build new factories for vehicle-safe fuel cells? Much easier and cheaper to use existing manufacturing chains and slap together phone batteries into unstoppable chemical fires.
And so many especially woke jurisdictions are paying out the yingyang for battery powered fire trucks and other apparatus.
Stupid on so many levels.
Those conditions are NOT vehicle conditions. Lithium batteries were developed for small handheld devices with low energy needs, used in conditions safe enough for an unprotected human. In contrast, vehicles are large heavy machines with high energy needs, which need to reliably perform under dangerous, stressful high speed conditions that would kill an unprotected human.
It's simple: DON'T USE LITHIUM BATTERIES FOR VEHICLES. Those batteries are meant for laptops and phones, not vehicles. Use something else.
And everyone walks around with one in their pocket.
and carries them on airplanes.