This Mike Lindell deposition segment is incredible
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Just the opposite. Mike Lindell's attorney should have objected to each and every threat made by that snake of a lawyer. It is time to speak up and fight back.
I get your point though. The average American has been so impoverished and indebted that kow-towing, getting fucked in the ass, or sacrificing our children is the only appropriate behavior.
I agree. Time to fight back against these assholes
You sir are correct.
Scorched earth
I agree. This is precisely what I was saying. Apparently, I didn't express myself very well. I'll include a response I just made below. Please bear with me as you read this. The down-votes I received are surprising.
I like Mike Lindell and appreciate his bravery. However, you must understand that lawyers are trained in the 'art of rhetoric' and accordingly there is far more to the 'profession' than most people realize. Let's just say, the 'brotherhood' of the 'gild' have many interactive connections with secret societies. This asshole lawyer purposely and provocatively baited Mike Lindell with offensive language. The question I have is why didn't Mike Lindell's lawyer immediately recognize this and defend Lindell from this planned character assassination? Under contract, the defense lawyer's main directive is to defend his client. Before I begin, I'll preface the rest of my response, as I am conscience-stricken for it's length and depth.
The tactics used by lawyers run very deep and whenever possible they ply the use of character assassination. I've witnessed many good, upright individuals being character assassinated in courts. It's hard to watch. You see the effect of it as absolute shock on the respondent's face. It is designed for this purpose and 'bearing false witness' is a well-oiled tool used in the court. A crafty lawyer will couch this in layers of deceit using the rules of the court for making the defendant appear mentally unstable. If the lawyer can get away with this, his success of winning the case is more assured. Look no further than the many J6ers, who have experienced those lawyers trained in the 'art of rhetoric' and bearing false witness to achieve the lawyer's self-serving ends. Americans appearing in American courts and represented by "licensed" lawyers are known to be 'wards-of-the-court'. See, e.g., Corpus Juris Secundum, Attorney & Client, Sec. 2, pg 769.
Black's Law Dictionary (5th Ed., 1991) defines 'wards-of-the-court' as "infants" or "persons of unsound mind". Your lawyer didn't explain this to you when he took your money? Wonder why?
Earlier when I use the word "gild", I was using this in very specific terms. There is no such thing as a 'licensed' attorney in America. There is no license to practice law. Any lawyer claiming this a LIAR. Lawyers pass the bar exam and then receive a bar card, which is essentially a union or gild membership card to practice law. Look this up. The deceit is so wide and deep, it is breathtaking. And it's been going on for a very long time. The American colonists called those who plied the practice of law 'Vermin'. This was one group of people American colonists feared with reason--- a society you might say whose often insidious craft had claimed a multitude of victims, ever since the middle ages of Europe and earlier. They were indeed one class of people who were hated and feared from Massachusetts Bay to Virginia. Our forefathers were baffled by them. Today, we are still baffled by them.
In 1641, Massachusetts Bay colony took a novel approach to the problem. The government attempted to starve those devils out of existence through economic exclusion. They were denied wages, and thereby it was hoped they would perish.
Four years later, Virginia followed the example of Massachusetts Bay, and for a while at least it seemed the dilemma had been relieved. It had not. Somehow, the “Parasite” managed to survive, and the mere nearness of them made the colonists skin crawl.
In 1688 in Virginia the final solution: banishment. Exile. The “treacherous ones” were cast out of the colony. At last, after decades of enduring the psychological gloom, the sun came out, and the birds sang and all was right with the world. And the elation continued for a generation.
I’m not sure why the Virginians eventually allowed the outcasts to return, but they did. In 1680, after twenty-two years the despised ones were readmitted to the colony on the condition that they be subjected to the strictest surveillance. Like the Romans, the Virginians and the rest of the colonies failed to rid themselves of these 'Vermin' as well.
The American Bar is a subsidiary of the International Bar Association, which is headquartered in Britain. At least, the Romans tried to save their society. Today, we can see several striking examples of how the legal system has come undone. In years past, I have written extensively on this, but allow me to continue providing some history to their act and performance.
Here is something else I wrote about 20 years ago from a not completed book I researched.
History Of Lawyers and It's Subversive and Detritus Effects on the Republic.
The English throne is described by our Declaration of Independence as practicing widespread tyranny. And, it is well known the English government used its lawyers and forces of arms to silence any dissidents that spoke out against the throne. Lawyers practiced the 'art of rhetoric' by coloring the law to achieve their ends. So widespread was this practice that two hundred seventy-three years ago, the English writer Jonathan Swift described lawyers as "men bred up from their youth in the art of proving, by words multiplied for the purpose, that white is black and black is white, according as they are paid." The profession of law has not been looked upon approving kindness. In fact, 400 years ago, in one of William Shakespeare plays, one of his characters; Dick the butcher in King Henry VI, said "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers." This quoted expression was a very popular sentiment in those days.
Actually, this popular sentiment has a much longer history. It originates some 2200 years ago when serious and tradition-minded Romans were troubled by the behavior of lawyers of their day. Yes, some things never change. History tells us this many times over. What we are witnessing today in law, is the result of the allowable practice of law. The Romans were so concerned by lawyers’ opprobrious effect on public morale that they attempted to curb their influence. In 204 BC, the Roman Senate passed a law prohibiting lawyers from plying their trade for money. A man skilled in the law might volunteer to defend a friend or a cause in the law courts, but he was forbidden to accept a fee for his services. The lawyers soon found a way to get around the newly passed law, and there was no method to enforce that law effectively. As the Roman Republic declined and became progressively democratic, it became increasingly difficult to keep lawyers in check and prevent them from accepting fees under the table. Alas, many young men, with more 'ambition than virtue' flocked to the practice of law.
Successful Roman lawyers were skilled in the art of rhetoric. The Greeks invented rhetoric and made a science of it and it became the science of persuasion. The Romans imported many cultural ideals from the Greeks and the rhetoricians were able to establish schools of rhetoric in Rome. Soon, tradition-minded Romans saw these rhetoric schools as a subversive influence an assault on Roman morals and customs. It was because falsehoods could be convincingly argued where every repugnant tactic of deception, evasion, and misrepresentation was used to vilify the opponent for the purpose of winning the argument. To the Romans, it was if Fraus, the two-faced goddess of deception, was released to destroy Rome itself.
Does this sound familiar with what Mike Lindell was exposed to? To the Romans, it was if Fraus, the two-faced goddess of deception, was released to destroy Rome itself.
Early in the 2nd century BC, Cato, the Censor, once commented after listening to some of these clever Greeks that it was virtually impossible to know what was true and what was not. Cato’s views were not the first commentaries to be uttered about the rhetoricians. Two centuries before, Plato had referred to them as notorious for "making the worse appear the better cause." Unlike the United States, the Romans at least attempted to quash this cancer from spreading. In 161 BC, the Roman Senate ordered all of these Greek schools of rhetoric closed and their teachers expelled from Rome. Then later, the valorous Roman censors, who were Rome's official guardians of public morality, once again ordered all the rhetoric schools closed in 92 BC. However, this latest cure was insufficient for stopping the cancer. All the attempts to save the Roman republic were worthy, but futile acts that ultimately had no effect in stopping Rome’s fall. The lawyers fed upon and exasperated the downward plunge of Roman civilization. Just as they are doing now.
So in the end, what Mike Lindell experienced was a contrived act; a performance by Vermin that may set the stage of more bad things happening to Mike Lindell. Rule number one is to never piss off the judge. The defendant/respondent is always viewed as a 'ward of the court'. This vermin lawyer did everything he could to show the judge that Mike Lindell is of unsound mind. IMHO, Lindell's lawyer ought to be fired because he failed in defending Mike Lindell.
Years ago, the vermin lawyer's and judge's malicious behavior would have been blamed on racism, classism, or some such. And of course, we would have swallowed it hook, line, and sinker.
Mike Lindell and his lawyer(s) know this is lawfare to crush his spirit and soul. There is no appeasement, only submission. Why should Lindell submit to tyranny? It is time we hold the minions of evil with the same utter contempt and disdain.
"Why should Lindell submit to tyranny?"
I like Mike Lindell and I think he is an American hero. Now, that I have that out of the way, you are correct this is lawfare. His lawyer should know this. By the negligence of Mike Lindell's counsel, I question his attorney's motives. IMHO, Mike Lindell's lawyer has egregiously failed him. The court may use Lindell's remarks against him. I've seen this happen in more than a few court cases. In one case, the respondent made an innocuous off-the-cuff joke about the judge. Everyone knew it was a joke. Yet, the opposing counsel heard it and reported it to the judge. As a result, he was was found to be in contempt of court and jailed. The judge was lenient on him and almost charged him for a felony of threatening a judge. It was ridiculous because everyone there knew it was joke. The lesson is to be guarded in what you say when you are in their jurisdiction.
The way the courts work is that they abide by 'admiralty Law'. You might think this is non-sense, but it's really not. Not many people know this either. Anyone responding to a motion to the corporate court is prima facie evidence of submitting to their jurisdiction. I don't know if Mike Lindell attempted to resolve this matter through arbitration and keeping the matter out of a court room. I simply don't know. The deposition seems to provide an indication of this as not being the case though. His lawyer should have insisted on offering arbitration as a path to dismiss this case. In 95% of civil cases, the settlement is reached through arbitration. In any lawsuit, all means of trying to resolve it outside of the court is expected and highly recommended. The biggest mistake anyone can make is going directly to court without attempting to find remedy through arbitration. Arbitration doesn't necessarily mean accepting fault. An adept lawyer will use arbitration negotiations to both delay and bleed the pursuant monetarily for accruing lawyer costs. The idea is to make it as slow and financially draining as possible. Mike Lindell most likely has an attorney already on his pay roll. So, it doesn't cost him much more than the salary his corporate attorney already is receiving. Going directly to court always equates to entering the lion's den. It's paramount to avoid going to court and instead resolve all issues outside of it through arbitration. The bible tells us we need to be as wise as a serpent in dealing with the **evil one'. Mike has submitted to the courts jurisdiction. He has to play by the rules of the court no matter how corrupt it is. His lawyer did a great disservice to Mike by not immediately stopping this travesty before it occurred. His lawyer allowed it by his silence.
"It is time we hold the minions of evil with the same utter contempt and disdain." Can you tell us how you would proceed doing this?
Lindell and his lawyers have been dealing with this evil for years. What is there to arbitrate with Dominion? If you know better how to deal with this evil, then why not offer your advice directly?