Where I live a lot of cars are retro fitted to use compressed natural gas and everyone I talk to says it's great and they save so much money. Maybe this comes into play as well. I've ridden in some and don't notice a performance difference.
I remember using taxis in Madrid (and I guess other large cities) in the 1970s which were powered by LNG. There is a lot going for LNG cars they have cleaner emissions and lower per-mile costs (or at least they were back then.)
There are problems though - if you retrofit your car for LNG then the yuge gas canister takes up half your boot/trunk space. Also for some safety reason the gas has to be able to vent and if your car is in an enclosed space this can be very bad. My mate blew up his garage like this.
tl;dr it's been a thing for years and never taken off
Interesting about the garage. Must have been faulty. What I was thinking is you get a large vehicle, maybe a bit of a gas guzzler and you retrofit because it would have space for the tank.
"Faulty" is what I thought too, but no. They are designed that way - I have no idea under what circumstance it needs to vent excess gas but it does. He had the car in his garage where there was also a freezer. When the thermostat clicked on the freezer a spark ignited the gas and ka-boom.
Incidentally petrol/gasoline vehicles are same. I recall seeing a neighbour's car spilling fuel from the filler cap on a freakish hot day. I was OMG OMG but the fire service kind of laughed at me and said well yeah they can do that.
Agree with you that if you can find a suitably large vehicle then the loss of internal space is not so bad.
Incidentally I forgot to mention that when you retrofit the LNG system to a car it is additional to the existing fuel system, not a replacement. This means extended range. My aforementioned mate used to love doing a demo to people where he was driving on the highway and the gasoline tank almost empty then he would flick a switch and the full LNG would kick in seamlessly. He was a bit of a nut that way actually and would drive 500 miles without stopping, just because he could.
I found out about them because I kept glancing at the taxi drivers empty fuel tank during a 3 hour trip. I was thinking surely he has to pull over at this next stop. They are cool having that flip option plus the savings.
The LNG would be the transatlantic shipped NG. Chilling NG to liquid state allows much greater volume to be shipped than in a gaseous state. Pipeline NG is in gaseous form. All-in-all, this seemingly provides the real reason why North Stream was sabotaged. And also explains why Poland is the new hub for NG in northern Europe and not Germany. The Bidens act an entire web of evil.
2009 Hillary convinces (strongarms) Barack Obama into bombing Libya. Libya supplied 35% of Europe's fossil fuels as oil via Italy. When Gaddafi was savaged to death, the country was plunged into a civil war. No more oil from North Africa. Libya is still fighting a civil war today.
2011-12 Iraq proposes a pipeline from their northern oil fields through Syria to the Mediterranean, then via ship to Italy. CIA, aided directly by Miss Lindsey and Mc NoName went over to Syria, armed up a bunch of Islamic radicals. They fomented a civil war and created ISIS. Syria is still fighting a civil war today. We're in Syria trucking their oil to Iraq and stealing it.
Iran has been selling their oil on the black market for a decade. The US made up BS about "human rights abuses," regularly antagonizes the regime, and of course, prevents them from selling cheap oil to Europe. That one's more complicated, but the State Dept has been active in destroying any effort to create a pipeline out of Iran to anywhere.
Ever wonder why Azerbaijan and Armenia are suddenly at each other's throats? It's not new. CIA and MI:6 have been over there fomenting that effort for years now. The last war in 2020 was bloody. Guess where the USSR's big southern oil fields were? Azerbaijan. We're destabilizing it. Secondary benefit is that it pressures Russia because Russia has guaranteed Armenian safety and now will be forced to commit troops for this purpose as they gear up to close the deal on Ukraine.
And of course, Nordstream 2 was hard-stopped before the project was completed, and Nordstream 1 was blown up by Joey "Ten Percent" and the US Navy.
In fact, I can think of only one source of new oil to Europe in the last 15 years: Norway, which is doing quite well with their new pipeline across the Baltic.
Their good "friends" here in the US are selling them biomass (wood chips) and LNG at 10x what they would cost if they came from domestic forests and Russia, respectively. We're making a killing while simultaneous preaching stupidity about muh carbon emissions. Germany's Energiewende killed off their domestic coal production and replaced it with worthless windmills. Now their factories are shutting down.
LNG is a GREAT fuel for cars, burns super clean so the engines last forever... probably why we don't have them everywhere now. LNG is also CHEAP compared to other refined fuels, as it is basically usable right out of the ground.
Since we are talking about LNG - it is also Methane. Farts. It is produced naturally from decomposing waste! Easily produced in every home, just a modified septic tank - the cleanest energy available, completely renewable and cost effective with so many benefits!
Glad to see world waking up to this! A large biodigester (the size of a bedroom) with added fees stock like animal manure, grass clippings, food waste, etc could provide all heat, transport, and electricity costs for a family of four - it’s great with generators.
Decentralized fuel and power would make America stronger. Easy to use. Easy to fill a propane tanks worth to share with a neighbor. Once the food stock is processed it is an excellent manure - further processing can produce alcohols, animal feeds, and plastics.
That’s crazy, maybe her ph is off, or she’s trying to introduce new microbes. She can put dry pine needles in it. It’s not as effective by volume but it works, better if you chop them first.
Anything but plastics, metals, rocks and anything ph wonky.
Yea. You can have her contact me here if she needs help. There’s a lot of studies I’m referencing, but. It is a self equalizing process.
If she’s a single lady, it’s probably not the most efficient system - my mindset is load it up and let it burn.
I just started my feeding system, which for me is chicken manure and pine straw as well as garden scraps.
It’s designed for winter outdoor heating, aesthetic lighting, boat propeller and pottery firing. Methane is also a great welding gas if used properly so the uses truly are manifold -
Tell her she’s appreciated for her willingness to embrace a sometimes frustrating technology, she deserves recognition for it.
Very interesting, thanks for finding this Anon.
Where I live a lot of cars are retro fitted to use compressed natural gas and everyone I talk to says it's great and they save so much money. Maybe this comes into play as well. I've ridden in some and don't notice a performance difference.
I remember using taxis in Madrid (and I guess other large cities) in the 1970s which were powered by LNG. There is a lot going for LNG cars they have cleaner emissions and lower per-mile costs (or at least they were back then.)
There are problems though - if you retrofit your car for LNG then the yuge gas canister takes up half your boot/trunk space. Also for some safety reason the gas has to be able to vent and if your car is in an enclosed space this can be very bad. My mate blew up his garage like this.
tl;dr it's been a thing for years and never taken off
Interesting about the garage. Must have been faulty. What I was thinking is you get a large vehicle, maybe a bit of a gas guzzler and you retrofit because it would have space for the tank.
"Faulty" is what I thought too, but no. They are designed that way - I have no idea under what circumstance it needs to vent excess gas but it does. He had the car in his garage where there was also a freezer. When the thermostat clicked on the freezer a spark ignited the gas and ka-boom.
Incidentally petrol/gasoline vehicles are same. I recall seeing a neighbour's car spilling fuel from the filler cap on a freakish hot day. I was OMG OMG but the fire service kind of laughed at me and said well yeah they can do that.
Agree with you that if you can find a suitably large vehicle then the loss of internal space is not so bad.
Incidentally I forgot to mention that when you retrofit the LNG system to a car it is additional to the existing fuel system, not a replacement. This means extended range. My aforementioned mate used to love doing a demo to people where he was driving on the highway and the gasoline tank almost empty then he would flick a switch and the full LNG would kick in seamlessly. He was a bit of a nut that way actually and would drive 500 miles without stopping, just because he could.
I found out about them because I kept glancing at the taxi drivers empty fuel tank during a 3 hour trip. I was thinking surely he has to pull over at this next stop. They are cool having that flip option plus the savings.
The LNG would be the transatlantic shipped NG. Chilling NG to liquid state allows much greater volume to be shipped than in a gaseous state. Pipeline NG is in gaseous form. All-in-all, this seemingly provides the real reason why North Stream was sabotaged. And also explains why Poland is the new hub for NG in northern Europe and not Germany. The Bidens act an entire web of evil.
A little more history:
Their good "friends" here in the US are selling them biomass (wood chips) and LNG at 10x what they would cost if they came from domestic forests and Russia, respectively. We're making a killing while simultaneous preaching stupidity about muh carbon emissions. Germany's Energiewende killed off their domestic coal production and replaced it with worthless windmills. Now their factories are shutting down.
And the bankers are getting even filthier rich.
u/#mikeyep
LNG is a GREAT fuel for cars, burns super clean so the engines last forever... probably why we don't have them everywhere now. LNG is also CHEAP compared to other refined fuels, as it is basically usable right out of the ground.
Since we are talking about LNG - it is also Methane. Farts. It is produced naturally from decomposing waste! Easily produced in every home, just a modified septic tank - the cleanest energy available, completely renewable and cost effective with so many benefits!
Glad to see world waking up to this! A large biodigester (the size of a bedroom) with added fees stock like animal manure, grass clippings, food waste, etc could provide all heat, transport, and electricity costs for a family of four - it’s great with generators.
Decentralized fuel and power would make America stronger. Easy to use. Easy to fill a propane tanks worth to share with a neighbor. Once the food stock is processed it is an excellent manure - further processing can produce alcohols, animal feeds, and plastics.
Huge people! Absolutely huge implications!
Make sure your biodigestor isn't too big for your supply. I know a lady who got one that's too big and I think she's buying manure.
That’s crazy, maybe her ph is off, or she’s trying to introduce new microbes. She can put dry pine needles in it. It’s not as effective by volume but it works, better if you chop them first. Anything but plastics, metals, rocks and anything ph wonky.
Interesting. I can't vouch for her expertise level but that's what she told me. Runs her clothes dryer and stove.
Yea. You can have her contact me here if she needs help. There’s a lot of studies I’m referencing, but. It is a self equalizing process. If she’s a single lady, it’s probably not the most efficient system - my mindset is load it up and let it burn. I just started my feeding system, which for me is chicken manure and pine straw as well as garden scraps. It’s designed for winter outdoor heating, aesthetic lighting, boat propeller and pottery firing. Methane is also a great welding gas if used properly so the uses truly are manifold - Tell her she’s appreciated for her willingness to embrace a sometimes frustrating technology, she deserves recognition for it.
Very cool info. Thanks for that.
That's some high energy shit!
LNG could also be used to make Hydrogen to burn in a combustion engine or use as a fuel cell, the byproduct being water vapor.
Water vapor is the number 2 cause of global warming.
You will have to talk to God about that one. Water is at the Center of All Life.
My point was that no matter what we do, there's going to be a problem with it. The Deep State doesn't want us driving.
Do you know what the number 1 cause of global warming is?
The sun?
Dasting! Thanks OP!
LNG refineries in my country ship straight to china.
Recommend commentary on this one. Very informative. We do have some serious domestic monsters.
Hunter recording : “largest LNG port in the world”
I am pretty sure they talk for LPG . Or cooking gas for BQ .