In fact one of the lawsuits Trumps campaign had legal victories (all in Pennsylvania) which led to throwing out of 270 provisional ballots lacking signatures, separated Election Day provisional ballots from those cast afterward, and moved back Pa.’s deadline for absentee voters to present voter ID by three days.
Sorry, that is still incorrect. Trump, nor his campaign, ever made it into a trial over 2020 election results. People like Sydney Powell and others were operating independently of their own accord.
I am not aware of any trial on election fraud, specifically.
All cases I know of were filed but dismissed without looking at evidence, and without going to trial with witness testimony and evidence presented before a jury.
I would suggest the PA trial where the judge actually ruled in favor with Trumps campaigns request to throw out 270 provisional ballots without signatures on them. Sorry for the MSM link but here is some more details on the three cases Trump campaign filed that made it into court…
I see in that article a lot of opinions about this or that, but no judicial decisions (other than a few that were in Trump's favor).
If there were REALLY numerous election fraud cases that Trump lost IN COURT -- with evidence presented and witnesses testifying before a jury, with the jury voting against Trump -- then it should be very easy for the author of the article to cite those cases.
But no such cases are cited.
Because there are none.
One example from the article shows you what really happened. In Trump v. Boockvar, it says:
U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania found for the defendants on all federal claims, declined to rule on state-law issues related to those claims, and dismissed the case.
There was no trial. There was no evidence presented IN A TRIAL. There was no witness testimony IN A TRIAL.
Most of these cases were DISMISSED WITHOUT TRIAL (and no evidence or witness testimony was presented ... AT TRIAL, because there was no trial). This is how most of them went.
Just because he withdrew out of 14 of the 47 cases, does not prove that they didn’t go to trial. 3 of them did go to trial, out of the 47 that were filed. One of them led to a judgement disqualifying 270 ballots with no signature. That is a judicial decision. There had to be a trial.
For election fraud? Yes - even for election fraud during midterms.
For Trumps indictments, we’re in the midst of the first trial and Trump has already received a gag order.
So I guess the answer would be yes.
Not where Trump was the plaintiff. He has gone to court, but they always dismissed it, thus no trial.
True, it was his campaign, not Trump himself.
In fact one of the lawsuits Trumps campaign had legal victories (all in Pennsylvania) which led to throwing out of 270 provisional ballots lacking signatures, separated Election Day provisional ballots from those cast afterward, and moved back Pa.’s deadline for absentee voters to present voter ID by three days.
Even MSM covers the three cases (out of 47) filed by Trumps campaign that made it into trial: https://www.witf.org/2022/09/01/these-republicans-did-a-deep-dive-into-2020-election-lawsuits-including-in-pa-heres-why-most-of-them-failed/
Sorry, that is still incorrect. Trump, nor his campaign, ever made it into a trial over 2020 election results. People like Sydney Powell and others were operating independently of their own accord.
Depends if you count Nov 27th 2020 court case filed by Trumps campaign In Pennsylvania. Or the one were the judge granted throwing out 270 provisional ballot without signatures.. https://www.witf.org/2022/09/01/these-republicans-did-a-deep-dive-into-2020-election-lawsuits-including-in-pa-heres-why-most-of-them-failed/
Okay… I guess that was my point - that what he’s said before.
Trump hasn’t gone to trial on any of this indictments yet.
I am not aware of any trial on election fraud, specifically.
All cases I know of were filed but dismissed without looking at evidence, and without going to trial with witness testimony and evidence presented before a jury.
I would suggest the PA trial where the judge actually ruled in favor with Trumps campaigns request to throw out 270 provisional ballots without signatures on them. Sorry for the MSM link but here is some more details on the three cases Trump campaign filed that made it into court…
https://www.witf.org/2022/09/01/these-republicans-did-a-deep-dive-into-2020-election-lawsuits-including-in-pa-heres-why-most-of-them-failed/
Thank you for making my point.
Which means they never went to trial.
Which means they never went to trial.
I see in that article a lot of opinions about this or that, but no judicial decisions (other than a few that were in Trump's favor).
If there were REALLY numerous election fraud cases that Trump lost IN COURT -- with evidence presented and witnesses testifying before a jury, with the jury voting against Trump -- then it should be very easy for the author of the article to cite those cases.
But no such cases are cited.
Because there are none.
One example from the article shows you what really happened. In Trump v. Boockvar, it says:
There was no trial. There was no evidence presented IN A TRIAL. There was no witness testimony IN A TRIAL.
Most of these cases were DISMISSED WITHOUT TRIAL (and no evidence or witness testimony was presented ... AT TRIAL, because there was no trial). This is how most of them went.
Just because he withdrew out of 14 of the 47 cases, does not prove that they didn’t go to trial. 3 of them did go to trial, out of the 47 that were filed. One of them led to a judgement disqualifying 270 ballots with no signature. That is a judicial decision. There had to be a trial.
The trial in NYC is a civil suit, not a criminal case. So there was no criminal indictment.