Trump exposes Israel's PM Bibi, "No two state solution."
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…and, interestingly, peace in Jerusalem ushers in the Great Trubulation. 🤔
I wont hold my breath on any Biblical prophecies, simply because the Bibles we can read are all manipulated in many many layers, and its very hard to know what is true prophecy and what is false prophecy
Thank you for your honest analysis of the Biblical text. I'm so glad to hear that you have studied so hard to make this conclusion.
Please share with us some examples of where the layers have obscured the message, not just citing other sources.
In discussions about this topic, most are simply unaware of the massive amount of manuscripts and fragments the Bible has in its possession compared to other popular ancient writing (which no one questions).
Allow me to compare the manuscript evidence for the New Testament with some well-known ancient writings like Aristotle's works, Plato's works, and Homer's "Iliad":
The New Testament has a remarkable abundance of manuscript evidence, as previously mentioned. With over 24,000 manuscripts in various languages, it stands as one of the most well-attested ancient texts.
Some of the earliest fragments of the New Testament date back to the 2nd century (and some even to within 20 yrs of the original events - which is almost unheard of in ancient textual analysis), providing valuable early witnesses to the text.
This wealth of manuscript evidence allows for rigorous textual criticism and cross-referencing, ensuring the accuracy and reliability of the New Testament.
Aristotle's Writings:
Aristotle's works, which cover a wide range of topics from philosophy to natural sciences, have survived through a variety of manuscripts.
While the manuscript tradition for Aristotle is significant, it doesn't approach the quantity or diversity of the New Testament. There are hundreds of extant manuscripts, but the earliest ones date to the 9th century or later.
Plato's Writings:
Plato's philosophical dialogues, including "The Republic" and "The Symposium," are key texts in Western philosophy.
The manuscript tradition for Plato is better than Aristotle's, with over 200 manuscripts, but it is still fewer in number compared to the New Testament. The earliest copies date to the late Middle Ages.
Homer's "Iliad":
Homer's epic poem "The Iliad" is a foundational work in Western literature.
The manuscript tradition for "The Iliad" is notable, with over 1,900 known manuscripts. Some fragments date back to the 3rd century BC, although complete manuscripts are generally later.
In comparison, the New Testament surpasses these ancient writings in terms of the sheer quantity and diversity of manuscript evidence. While Aristotle, Plato, and Homer's works have valuable manuscript traditions, they are generally later in dating and smaller in number compared to the New Testament, which has one of the most extensive and earliest manuscript traditions among ancient texts.
This extensive manuscript evidence is a significant factor in establishing the historical reliability and textual accuracy of the New Testament.
Thank you for this throw description of the truth of God’s word. Unfortunately, some will still deny Christ. It’s very sad, all we can do is pray for these people.
Thank you for sharing!
It appears you still have bubbles that need bursting. The discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls in the mid-20th century utterly destroys the “BUt dur bIBle hAs cHaNged” camp of critics, and is a significant testament to the accuracy and preservation of the Bible.
The DSS, which predate the oldest known copies of the Old Testament by a THOUSAND YEARS (with virtually NO variation), have provided invaluable insights into the biblical text’s consistency and reliability over the centuries.
And the meticulous work of scholars in comparing these scrolls with later manuscripts demonstrates the commitment to preserving the integrity of the Bible.
We can be 100% confident that the Bible we read today is what the original authors wrote down.
If I didn't read the rest of your comment, I would have assumed this was a sarcastic joke!
There is much to learn in the area of textual criticism as it pertains to the Biblical texts.
#NotJoking
and, fortunately, guesses about what any event will usher in, including "peace in Jerusalem" are just guesses even when the guesser asserts that their guess is a fact.
Fortunately, NT Bible reader believers know Christ said "blessed are the peace makers". They also know that the bible repeatedly reminds them of Gods message to them, " fear not".
Never said it was a fact. Just, putting 2 and 2 together, like you, with what the Bible says about end times events as they relate to Israel.
The Bible also says we are to "rightly divide the Word." Context is important when throwing verses out onto the discussion table. And no one is "fearing" over here. I'm comfy as can be, knowing Who holds the future.
"Context is important when throwing verses out onto the discussion table".
So true.
Hence I laughed with a Light Heart when I read this warning which came right after " throwing" this "onto the discussion table":
" the bible says we are to 'rightly divide (sic?) the word'". 😘
Thanks for the chuckle anon and thanks for the reminder to pray for myself and for all anons who love Him and who earnestly desire to please Him.
I agree with you 100%
If Trump signs a seven-year peace agreement, then we know who he is. However, if you are pre-TRIB, we won’t be here when that happens.
Edit : change that we to an I
If President Trump does this then "we know who he is".
" We" ==???
Why would these "we" people be so very certain that their guess is THE correct guess?
Ignoring bible warnings about the dangers of pride?
Ignoring Christ telling those with ears to hear Him, "blessed are the peace makers"?
Ignoring the bibles many passages about God telling those who serve Him to " be unafraid"?
I’m very aware of what the Bible says. And I never said I was afraid. You said that.
Fear not! Of course not.
I have Jesus Christ in my heart, I have no reason to fear. I know where I’m going when I die.
Anyway… the term ‘we’ is a broad term, so let’s say I changed it to ‘I’
I can only ascertain from the book of revelation, of which our Womens Bible Study just got finished studying, that the person that signs a seven-year peace treaty, is most likely the antichrist. Now am I saying that is Donald Trump? I don’t know… I’m just saying it fits with book of revelation that we just study for a year.
People should not blindly follow anybody. I’m keeping my mind open to different options and events as they occur. At this point in time, no peace treaty has been signed, so I can’t say with some certainty; the antichrist has not yet made himself known.
We spent an entire year studying the book of revelation, so I can’t put into one sentence why I feel the way I do. I just do.
On the grand scheme of things, does it really matter what I think? No not really. God’s gonna do what God’s going to do, and yes, he will use the antichrist to further his plan for the end times. The antichrist is not in charge! God has this whole thing planned out, and everything is going to go according to plan.
No one can stop what is coming!
Im always puzzled when I encounter people who spend much time on Revelations.
Whats the point?
Why on earth would anyone spend a year studying the book of Revelations, especially now?
Especially someone who believes that what they "think" doesn't "really matter", "God has this whole thing planned out" and "no one can stop what is coming".
For those who believe this, I'm surprised that they'd spend a year studying someone's dream memories about that plan; studys that's lead to speculations about who that dreamers anti christ might be including speculations that the anti christ might be DJT.
Hopefully, when these " feels" arise they will inspire even more prayers for DJT.
Hopefully they will inspire prayers for oneself so God is able to work with and through you 24/7 with less and less interference.
Hopefully they will inspire prayers for all anons who seek to please God because they love Him and seek to increase His harvest by finding more of His currently lost sheep and, because they are so full of His Loving Light they're able to help guide these lost sheep through the darkness of death.
Right now is His gift to us. Perhaps that's why its called the present.
What one chooses to do with each gift one gets reveals ones current relationship with the Gift Giver.
Finally, since Christ warned that many who believed they were saved were very, very mistaken, I'm always puzzled to encounter people who believe that their judgment will be His Judgement.
Why the certainty despite Christs warnings? Gods mind readers?