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Without getting into too much (potentially doxxing) detail:
A local GOP committee meeting was held today; a local candidate who won in her district meet with us today to help figure out what is needed to propel our committee to actual victory. I talked with her regarding the notion that the GOP lost plenty within the area due to abortion issues.
Long story short, we MUST address the abortion issue on a cultural front before we even begin to think about writing laws banning or really restricting abortion. I know you all hate to get involve in culture wars, but politics is downstream from culture, and we must participate in culture wars and push back against the tyrannical left's monopoly if we are to save this nation and the world...
I believe that adoption agencies need to be supported and available and ready to do outreach which is visible, friendly, and accessible. There must be a percentage of women who would consider carrying their baby to term if they knew how to go about the procedure. Conservatives do not like the idea of helping the poor with services, but you cannot be anti abortion and anti support for a poor women. If we could show the culture we are really committed to life, we could influence the mind set. Have adoption alternatives for women front and center, get them educated to the fact that if they give birth, they will get help through their pregnancy, they will not lose their job. The left uses the argument that pro life people only care about the fetus, but not the child who is born after. In some cases they have a point. And for the love of God, stop being anti birth control. To me, that does not make any sense. Of course abstinence from sex is the religious stance, but that will not work, period. I have no faith that even spreading the Gospel will reach all of those young people enough to change their behavior. There is a wonderful agency in Virginia that I send a check to every month, Saint Margaret of Cortona for Women. They provide services, respite, and a temprorary shelter and home for pregnant women. They do good work. The babies adoptions are set up. Now let me bring up something that I have been harping on forever. If you are a parent of a son, and he is under age, and he gets a girl pregnant, you are just as responsible for the support of that child, and for helping that girl, you do not get off the hook. If the baby is born, the parents of the father, if he is under 18, are responsible, and that should be law. I think the GOP went a little nuts with preaching that birth control should be illegal, that just is crazy, in my opinion. People are going to do the thing, the best way to stop abortion is to not get pregnant in the first place, duh.
Conservatives do not like helping the poor with services???
You are confusing local town and church charity with government programs. Guess which American conservatives support and fund more than any other group in the world?
The many small church groups where I live only help those who are in the church, not the general public. They even have their own foodbanks, for the congregants. Our food bank, womans shelter from abuse are supported from local towns who put it in their annual budget and vote on at town meetings. Private adoption agencies are extremely wealthy and cater to wealthy people, who want a "certain" type of child. The foster system cannot keep up once these kids are older, there are lots of creeps applying to do foster care, and many who do it for the stipend check. If not the "government" then who regulates the care and adoption or funds the programs that can help a girl to carry out the pregnancy and have the baby's adoption set up before the birth? I get what you are saying about government, but government can be a good thing if the right people are working in it.
We can narrow in on your point easily and still begin to move the needle on abortion.
TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN - no grooming, no porn, no sex, no abortion for minors without parental knowledge and consent. Minors are being manipulated by bad actors; they should not have to deal with sex at all until they are of age. Before then, only teach them to never hide things from their parents, to never trust anyone who makes then feel uncomfortable, and how to recognize manipulation- this is a hard one, but is best addressed primarily by taking them out of government indoctrination centers.
We may need a whole generation to be freed from the programming before we significantly move the needle on abortion countrywide.