JESUS!!!!

For those who don't know, the Babylonian Talmud is the written form of the "Oral Traditions" of the Pharisees. The same Oral Traditions Jesus accused the Pharisees of elevating above God's Law (Torah).

Matthew 15:3-9 (NIV):

"Jesus replied, 'And why do you [Pharisees] break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?'... Thus you nullify the word of God for the sake of your tradition."

Mark 7:8-13 (NIV):

"You [Pharisees] have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions… Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that."

The Talmud came after Christ? Fascinating.

Before Abraham, I am.

Being God, Jesus always was.

JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus Christ of course was in the beginning. The Babylonian Talmud are the traditions of men that Christ referred to as transgressing the LAW. Babylonian Talmudism is known as JUDAISM today, it is the Jewish religion. Many Christians believe that the Torah is the foundation of the Jewish religion known as Judaism, but it is NOT it is the Talmud. That is why everytime I hear an uninformed Christian use the term Judeo-Christian I just cringe, there is no such thing. That term is an oxymoron, it is two opposites. Christianity has its solid foundations in HEBRAISM NOT Talmudism. Hebraic-Christian is the correct term. Most important of all is that Jesus Yashua The Christ certainly did NOT draw His teachings from the Babylonian Talmud, when He was teaching the Apostles, because He was NOT a Jew, one who practices Judaism as their religion. Christ drew His teachings from the writtings of the Torah or Old Testament and was likely using the Septuagint in those days. He uniquely taught Christians of His coming Kingdom at the end of the Age of Grace.

The Babylonian Talmud is an absolute abomination. I have access to the complete 1929 Soncino edition of the Talmud which is the English translation of the Talmud and I can guarantee that any Christian here would absolutely be offended by what it says about Jesus The Christ. There is a very good little book which is actually a letter that was written by Benjamin Friedman to a Roman Catholic friend of his, called FACTS ARE FACTS. If you get a copy you will then see why Judaism is not in any way the foundation of Christianity, but is the nemesis of Chritianity. Not sure if you can still get it on Amazon but it will open your eyes. Well worth the read for those who like to use the term Judeo-Christian, or believe that Jesus was a Jew, practicing JUDAISM, a follower of the Babylonian Talmud which is an outright deception and lie. Get (FACTS ARE FACTS by Benjamin Friedman) if you want the rest of this story. My two cents.

Both, Jesus was both before the talmud and during and after.

In His divinity, Jesus is the "I am" and transcends time, as some have observed. But in His humanity, He was "sent into the world" at a certain time (Galatians 4:4) At that point in time the Babylonian Talmud and the Jewish religion already existed. The Talmud is a collection of myths, stories, and "the opinion of rabbis down through the ages." The Talmud issued in the Jewish religion, headed up by the Pharisees, who harassed, opposed, and ultimately condemned Jesus to death. The covenant God made with Abraham as detailed in the Holy Scriptures (Moses and the prophets) issued in the Christ, the manifestation of God in the flesh. Today it is the same. There is the Christian religion (Catholic and Protestant) which consists of stories, myths, holidays and traditions nowhere in the Bible. The New Covenant issues in the reality of the Body of Christ and will consummate in the New Jerusalem. We need to be saved not only from the world and sin, but from religion.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God.

Jesus Christ created Adam in His Image. Jesus Christ spoke creation into being. Jesus Christ and The Father are one.

I'm guessing the talmud.