There's something fundamentally broken about the way men and women relate to each other in the modern world.
Gen-Z's "loneliness epidemic" has become somewhat of a buzzword in recent years, with older people expressing shock that young people aren't talking to each other or having sex anymore. The sharp decline in dating and relationships seems remarkable because prior logic dictated that men and women will always be drawn to each other no matter what. People assumed the natural sex drive and the desire for companionship would keep man and woman together under any circumstances, but we're quickly finding out that's not the case. Just one look at the birth rate paints a dire picture.
I don't think any "side" is wholly responsible for the situation. Some men will say women's standards are too high while some women will say it's because there's not enough quality men out there. The truth I think, is that we've all been screwed by a civilizational project that forced us into roles that disrupt the natural order. Technology and our modern service economy made everyone androgynous.
Boys and girls are raised indistinguishably from each other. They're taught the same way, given the same options, encouraged to pursue the same goals. For a young woman today, motherhood is something that may or may not happen after the life they've been primed for since birth. Just compare the way parents talk to their daughters about college and career achievement vs the way they talk about marriage and motherhood. Where's the emphasis placed?
On top of being raised the same way as men, young women are given ample opportunities to help compete with and economically outpace men. I'm talking about college scholarships and career quotas here. It's the economic equivalent of suddenly making every woman taller than the average man.
Women still want to feel taken care of by men. Men still want to feel respected and valued as the center of power in their families. With the modern dynamic, everyone is frustrated and forced to become autonomous. Women trade husbands for careers, men trade wives for porn.
Where relationships still do happen, they've pretty much regressed back to primitive social patterns. The most desirable men will have a haram of average women trying to get him to commit, while most men will be lonely. Instead of finding a husband, the most desirable women will be subject to mostly unserious propositions while the men in her league shirk commitment.
The thing these relationships all have in common is an unbalanced power dynamic.
That brings us back to the scary truth we've forgotten, something that goes so deeply against the modern way of thinking about things: Patriarchy is the only way of providing men and women what they innately want. When men are the providers, they feel deeply fulfilled with a sense of purpose to their lives. When women are the providers, they feel like their man's mommy. It doesn't work, and the divorce rates by income dynamic attest to this.
So what's the solution? I honestly can't think of one that fits even remotely into the modern framework. It would take a complete civilizational turn to get men and women needing each other again. Until then, all we can expect is sterility, loneliness and frustration.
"When men are the providers, they feel deeply fulfilled with a sense of purpose to their lives. When women are the providers, they feel like their man's mommy. It doesn't work"
Preach it!
The societal incentives you capture result in women often earning more than their husbands, having to work for "health insurance" and sometimes the husband is left home as mommy. That does not work! NEVER emasculate your husband that way, despite "financial" incentives! Better a lower standard of living on the husband's earnings, than turning him into a eunuch.
And the moms are denied the chance to nurture their own children!! Goes against Nature, and the woman feels used by the power structure that sucked her into that situation: the Patriarchy indeed, just not the patriarchy of loving families.
AMEN!
Were you watching the first 50 years of my life?
I guess so! Feminism started ruining women and men and relationships about that time. I have also suffered from that Zeitgeist and it is time for it to end.
I have some random thoughts about this:
I see a number of videos of women complaining about dating apps, and the number of them being ghosted or stood up when the two parties agree to meet. No one ever suspects the app itself, and the evidence of the "phone farms" in SE Asia...manned by dozens of asians posting crap. This could be part of a larger conspiracy to make singles disillusioned with the opposite sex.
Single women constantly ask, "Where are all the good men?" Yet, they insist on going out to bars, where they will ONLY meet "players" who are alcoholics and/or creeps looking to game the system. The kind of men who habitually go out to bars are not husband material, nor are they looking for committed relationships. However, these men are made the yardstick whereby women generalize what "all men" are like.
Our materialistic society has trained some women to look for men as "money machines," and nothing else. This is not a new phenomenon, but it has been upgraded in the last few years to unrealistic levels...to a point where only 1% of men may possibly qualify. But, those men in the upper 1% are generally not interested in commitment.
The "independent woman" has been manipulated to think that she can have multiple partners throughout her late teens and twenties, then find a committed partner to marry and have kids with. This is diametrically opposed to what men are looking for in a woman. Without making my comment crude, I'll allow whoever reads this to fill in the blanks.
Women are almost never trained to develop hobbies/interests on their own. This puts them at a distinct advantage at meeting quality people who might be a good match for them.
For me as a man being single.
I know this might sound crazy.
A lot of problems stem from the "Make Up" culture. Selling masses amount of Make Up to women has destoryed our expectations of what is beautiful.
This has programmed a lot men to seek plastic and fake looking women. Which has caused more women to become fake.
Something as simple as getting rid of makeup. Would bring humans to their natural roots.
Porn is worse than makeup for distorting a man's view of what a woman is.
Porn is part of it.
What is porn?
Porn is a fake reality. Make up is a fake reality as well.
They both are apart of the fake unnatural part of humanity.
My spouse told me I did not need makeup.
Most women shouldn't "need" it. My girlfriend probably looks more conventionally attractive with makeup but it's just like getting dressed up.
That's great!
That's what needs to happen more.
We are still together which has to mean something!
It does the same for women too. The "romance" section is just acceptable hard core porn sold openly at your local bookstore.
OH there are so many women authors, even of crime and mystery novels, that have to put in explicit disgusting porn scenes! i won't read those. Male authors of those genres have much less porn than the women authors! I don't GET IT!
Women? promoting absurd and graphic sexual fantasy?? Give me a BREAK!
"OH there are so many women authors, even of crime and mystery novels."
You could have stopped right there.
But it would be wrong not to mention the overwhelming percentage of female literary agents.
From my experience women mostly do stuff like that to status signal to other women. Like no man is gonna be more attracted to a woman because of her expensive purse or how well her nails are done. I don't think women are lying when they say they do it for themselves. They do it to feel higher status.
That's part of it for sure. But a lot of guys see the Kim K types and expect all women to kind of look like that.
How many none blonde women are now dying their hair blonde. This is part of the Make Up / Fake culture.
Yep it's like shoes and high heels, that shit is really about showing off to other women as most men don't care about a woman's shoes. If anything many of us are annoyed by heels as it means she now has to walk annoyingly slow and fusses about what surfaces we expect her to follow us over. Yeah there are guys with fetishes but reality is that most of us don't care and don't find them sexy.
Yes! Glad you speak honestly. I know a single guy, (we are all in our late thirties). While many of us hooked up young for life he always wanted something we all seen was beyond his reach. She had to be absolutely beautiful while his an overweight (being honest) unattractive man. And I think it was all his online viewing and thinking he would easily get it.
I've heard of some women who joined OnlyFans and now that they make money off it they only see men as atms, basically. Men who pay for OnlyFans subs also get to dm with the woman so they get this weird para-social fulfilment that makes them feel like they have a partner, but they have none of the commitment. People are also so sucked into their phones its hard to find anyone who can hold a conversation beyond the typical "Hey, how are you?" I really think most of this has been engineered to make the "Great Replacement" easier to pull off. We'd be better of if someone Emp'd the USA and sent us back to the pre-internet era.
Women want to make the same as men but also want a man that makes more than them. Women are broken. Men have mostly checked out. Men are broken. The only solution is for men to return to making God the center of their life. The realignment starts with men returning to God.
I know 4 beautiful and smart women. 2 in long term relationships, 2 not looking for anything permanent. None want children. They can't imagine bringing a child into a society as broken as ours and trying to raise them decently. It's not just women either, the 2 in relationships, their spouses feel the exact same way. I can't say that I can disagree with them either.
I think you are so right! And I'm a woman.
Tradwifery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tradwife#:~:text=Key%20to%20the%20tradwife%20identity,the%20importance%20of%20raising%20children.
They have to invent a word for normal. HA!
Definitely cultural creations. But also think about how much children listen to older family members (whether these family members realise it or not). If you have older gens saying *play the field because they regret settling early, you might get a generation playing. I think food / poison is also an issue. Eg atrazine is a herbicide used in MOST farming and causes feminise men. What woman actually wants that? I've also read the woman's pill causes males to feminise. HOW MANY WOMAN are on THAT? It's become the norm for MANY! I think out of all the women I know I'm the only one who never took the pill. (Mid thirties).
Because the inconvenient truth is that most women aren't free thinkers and have a much stronger herd mentality than men.
Men need to be the leaders