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The UFO Deception Explosion of December 2023—Tucker Carlson, Joe Rogan, David Grusch, & Much More (www.youtube.com) 🗣️ DISCUSSION 💬
posted 2 years ago by XGemInaV 2 years ago by XGemInaV +132 / -0
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– weholdthesetruths 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

“….is a requirement to be a Christian.”

😂

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– Dudley_Doright 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

There’s a creed. A profession of faith. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are in it. There are also numerous Pauline references to what’s required to believe and profess Christianity. The Trinity is fundamental to Christianity.

For an interesting take; Dr Michael Heiser speaks knowledgeably on “The Divine Council”. He also wrote some science fiction type novels featuring “aliens”. Good stuff.

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– weholdthesetruths 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

lol and when did that creed show up, friend? You sound like a child parroting what he learned in church at age 12. My God. Christ would be so disappointed in those who call themselves Christians today. Completely missed the point. How you managed to wriggle free of the Catholics but not the dogma of Paul is beyond me.

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– SpaceManBob 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Jesus Christ is God. The trinity is the basis of Christianity.

You don't get to claim that doctrines that have been rejected by all of Christianity for 1500+ years are Christian. Even if they are wrong, they aren't Christian.

This argument is like saying Islam and Christianity are compatible and worship the same God. It's just not true.

There are doctrines one must believe, and to not believe them is to not believe in the same God as people who do believe in those doctrines.

Christianity is not for everyone, in the sense that if you reject the basic tenants, you don't get to just make up whatever you want and claim to be Christian. It IS for everyone, in the sense that you can repent and become a Christian by giving yourself over to God.

Also, the Catholic Church is the One True Church. You don't have some special knowledge of ancient deception or whatever. To keep it simple, God wouldn't have allowed such a thing because it would completely contradict His nature to do so.

Christ started the Church and made Peter the first Pope, our history is accurate enough to confirm what it needs to about the faith, and there wasn't an extended period of hundreds to a thousand plus years when God left the faithful high and dry living in deception unable to truly know Him.

And before you pull out all the lazy arguments: I wasn't raised Catholic, and only became one recently after previously converting to Christianity, which I only did after getting involved here on GAW 4 years ago and getting all the anti-Roman Catholic Church talking points hammered into my head over the years.

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– weholdthesetruths 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Also, the Catholic Church is the One True Church. You don't have some special knowledge of ancient deception or whatever. To keep it simple, God wouldn't have allowed such a thing because it would completely contradict His nature to do so.

This however…oh boy. How anyone can look around this world and decide that God would not allow mankind to exercise the agency he gave them for evil…there’s the great trick the Devil played on you right there.

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– weholdthesetruths 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I get to say whatever I think is true. No man or group of men can force me to believe other than I do. I think your church is wack—it lacks the miracles that prove its continued authenticity in my mind, among other things (your protestant offshoots suffer the same malady unfortunately, and give too much weight to your scriptures as the Pharisees did of old), but I think if you dig deep you can find God through it anyway, for God is no respecter of persons, or group of persons. He works with us according to our faith and our faith is enhanced through righteousness and the broadening of our minds and the creative exercising of our faith. I won’t blame you for where you are now. Dig deep past the dogma and you’ll find God just the same.

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– Dudley_Doright 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You have a point. I’m trying, with admittedly limited success to disabuse myself of the notion I actually “know” anything at all. Thanks for reminding me how stupid I really am. I read some stuff, and repeat it but I wasn’t there, so I can’t really say for sure.

My dog died suddenly today. It makes me feel like being extra nice to everybody, as life’s too short and uncertain to spend it in recriminations. Thanks again. Best wishes in this life, and maybe, the next.

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– weholdthesetruths 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You too. Great humble reply.

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