My fellow frogs, I think I might have put the tiniest of tiny dents in the armor of someone who is possibly the worst TDS case in the world. Recently I got him to listen. And he listened for a long time without interrupting and without the usual protests. He didn't agree with anything - he held his ground. BUT, he did listen, which is a first and I see it as a huge opportunity. Because, as we know, he will be thinking of our conversation.
I've gone the Trump route and for now, I want to let that lie. But another one of his derangements is about climate change and how the world is about to end. I've got some stuff saved, but I'm coming to you to ask for anything relating to the debunking of climate change. Especially anything from scientists themselves. Anything you've got would be appreciated, and any tips or advice would be welcome as well. Thanks, frens.
fren, this website debunks a lot of that stuff
https://wattsupwiththat.com/
Thank you! That's gold.
This is my favorite rebuttal live on the Communists News Network. Priceless.
https://rumble.com/v1d3sll-founder-of-weather-channel-crushes-cnn-on-climate-change-hoax.html
Oh, I forgot about this. Thank you!
You're welcome again fren.
1800 scientists sign declaration that there is no climate emergency. This includes many Nobel Laureates.
Inb4, here is the Fact Check so you can prepare yourself, because your fren will come across this fact check and throw it back at you. Very easy to retort as long as you are prepped.
Thank you!
No worries fren. You should be proud of being this patient and slowly opening this person's mind!
Thanks. I have nearly lost mine several times. I keep thinking, this will be it. If I can't get through to him this time, I'm done. Yet, I haven't been able to give up. I care about him and I want him to at least understand that there is another side, there are actual, qualified scientists who either refute or question the talking points. He honestly didn't even know that. I pitched a couple of things to him and he couldn't believe what I was saying - it just couldn't be. His knowledge base is so one-sided. He literally didn't know or believe that I was right that there are scientists who refute cc. It's hard to believe that anybody can live in that much of a bubble.
I was so encouraged by my tiny bit of progress that I wanted to gather more ammunition and strike while the iron is hot! I also often remind myself that when Jesus sent the apostles out to tell the good news, he advised them if people reject them to just shake the dust from their sandals and move on. Every time I think I'm going to do it in this case, I wind up coming back and trying again. Maybe I'm a glutton for punishment!
Good luck fren. Just remember. Our job is to drop the crumbs that get them to ask question. Our job is not to change their minds. Only they can do that to themselves, when they are ready.
Indeed.
A quick bing search turned this up
https://www.businessinsider.com/scientists-who-deny-climate-change-2015-10
Thank you.
Best way to win that argument is usually from an economic perspective. That is because the economic perspective is driven by behaviors.
Show them that there has been an increase of building near coastal and waterways the last 20+ years.
Also show them that climates change is defined as 25-30 year intervals. There has not been any significant change to climate zones on earth the last 30 years aka since 1994.
Good point. Thanks.
Arctic sea ice
https://polarjournal.ch/en/2022/02/17/dramatic-sea-ice-development-in-the-arctic/
Sea rise
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fr02a4-WYAExghN.jpg
https://leadstories.com/assets_c/2023/03/Statue%20of%20liberty:%20sea%20level%20rise%20image%20-thumb-autox851-3105383.png
Oh, this is excellent. Thank you. He looks to both of these as 'proof,' we are all about to drown.
Start with the fact that the whole climate change histrionics is based on models that predict the future climate. Every single one of them has been proven to be wrong.
There are so many fundamental scientific mistakes in the theory to make it laughable.
We actually need more CO2, not less. More CO2 would improve life for all living things on the planet.
And methane smooths out the climate changes due to the sun. A huge portion of man made methane comes from rice fields.
Thanks!
Take some notes from this interview if you missed it
https://greatawakening.win/p/17sOZmngIP/climate-is-due-to-the-sun--other/c/
I did. Thank you!
I dont have links to share because this is old but I distinctly remember when this climate change stuff started. Gore et al insisted its global warming but all the scientists insisted with stats its actually global cooling. They said we're headed for a mini ice age. SO the elites changed the term to climate change. So my 1st question to the climate change crazies would be - is it global warming or cooling?
Then too the proof is in the pudding. They probably say warming. If thats true why are so many elites buying estates on the water fronts (eg Obummer, Oprah, etc). You'd think they would know.
Also reported back then the reason the elites said its warming was because they could charge us for carbon taxes, any form of energy but they fly everywhere in private planes and their estates waste more energy than entire cities.
I believe actions speak louder than words. Watch what they do not what they say because everyone lies.
All good points. Thank you.
When you see the first chemtrail, begin taking pictures. Take them throughout the day. When the abrupt weather change happens, show the pictures in chronological order, and explain how you knew the weather change was coming before the weatherman.
That's actually a good suggestion, because he doesn't believe in chemtrails at all. Thanks!
How someone can continue to be blind to that is beyond my comprehension. Texas has it's own weather modification board for goodness sake.
climate change people Detroit (Paris of the West) St Louis ( Rome of the West) Baltimore (Charm City) Chicago ( The White City) New Orleans (America's European City) Philly ( The Athens of America) San Francisco ( City by the Bay)
These are destroyed by climate change or ???
I'm sorry, I don't quite understand this. Are you saying that some claim they've been destroyed by climate change (instead of democrat policies?)
Forbidden Knowledge had an outstanding, in depth series about the CC agenda about 10 years ago. Unfortunately, youtube destroyed their account, and I don't know where to find their series anymore. But it's worth looking for.
Alright, thank you. I'll try rumble and the others.
Tony Heller hero scientist.
Thanks, I'm not familiar with him. Appreciate it.