I think the current context is perverted from the original meanings of those terms. Furthermore, the propaganda coming from both Nazis and Communists has made either term completely meaningless.
Is one a Nazi if one wants National Boundaries, for example? IS one a NAzi if one does not want floods of perma-foreigners in one's country?
Is one a Commie if one believes food, housing and clothing etc. are necessary to keep a country healthy and low-crime, what about having decent-enough roads? How about running an election using old-fashioned paper (NAzis love computers see: IBM in WW2)?
Or do these labels only apply when slandering someone when one does not agree with them? I suspect so.
I find myself hopelessly dangled, and needing to see what either ideology was all about in their inception, sans all the slanderous epihets flying around in the Twitter-sphere.
Guess what? National Socialists were searching for the same answers as Communists (both Socialist), during a time of extreme, global hardship (financial crash, rise of crime, etc.), the Germans decided to organize their society along the lines of armies, that could be taught to march in formation carrying pageant-like torches early in the piece, even as the government were hiding the full extent of what they were building (i.e. munitions factories and autobahns) from Versailles-treaty afficionados. The moment Hitler decided to stop paying those murderous damages for WW1 so that he ould look after Germans, who had an inflation problem, he was declared literally Satan by the West. So NAtional Socialism = le bad.
Meanwhile the Russians mobilized their population towards decentralized agriculture and government controlled war-machine industries, in preparation for yet another invasion from Europeans. (Yes, they knew about those, from before - the devastation of a civil war and foreign destabilization was enough of an indicator for what was coming). Communism meant empowering the working classes, and they did exactly that. Any hard-working citizen was useful member of society. It is just that when communists decided to root out the de-stabilizing, mostly tribal, dissidents (cough ... that Khazarian issue), they were labelled as totalitarian arseholes. But, you know, empowering the working classes = MArxism = le bad.
I think the current context is perverted from the original meanings of those terms. Furthermore, the propaganda coming from both Nazis and Communists has made either term completely meaningless.
The 'greatest allies' were Soviet Union, Britain and USA. Go figure. And the most grievously harmed peoples, in terms of numbers, were the Soviets. Not the 6 Garillion Billion - and now we deserve a homeland peeps, but three times that figure. And they were fighting on their own soil. Google the WW2 casualty numbers and see for youself who bore the brunt on any side of that war.
What happooned? Why are the Russians now pitted against their former allies?
Operation paperclip meant that the German, and Western Ukrainian Officer-POWs were quickly moved to 'allied countries' instead of letting them inhumanely starve to death in open-air fenced off, dry, no-food prisons, as the enraged Americans were wont to do. After all, those were officers, not just plods.
Soviets sent those officer POWs to work-camp Gulags in a frozen place. Half-alive, or dying, whatever. Westerners were more subtle (LOL), and placed them in their militaries. So now, the difference in treatment of those paperclipped officers is coming back and haunting the peeps who cavorted with the enemy. The West did NAtSee that coming.
Sticky’d as I think we can all agree Conservatives nor Nationalists are Fascist Nazi’s. We just want what’s best for our own Nations, cultures, and people Nationally and then World-Wide.
Totalitarian has a left and right so does libertarianism.
A right totalitarian is a Nazi (rhino)
A left totalitarian is a commie (Democratic Party)
A patriot of the USA who is for freedom and the constitution is a libertarianism right or left. The word right and left are only words that are not defined correctly.
The school system in the USA really did a number. No wonder the military says it is not required any longer :)
They are commies,so the call us Nazis.
And they still pretend they are smarter than us.
I think the current context is perverted from the original meanings of those terms. Furthermore, the propaganda coming from both Nazis and Communists has made either term completely meaningless.
Is one a Nazi if one wants National Boundaries, for example? IS one a NAzi if one does not want floods of perma-foreigners in one's country?
Is one a Commie if one believes food, housing and clothing etc. are necessary to keep a country healthy and low-crime, what about having decent-enough roads? How about running an election using old-fashioned paper (NAzis love computers see: IBM in WW2)?
Or do these labels only apply when slandering someone when one does not agree with them? I suspect so.
I find myself hopelessly dangled, and needing to see what either ideology was all about in their inception, sans all the slanderous epihets flying around in the Twitter-sphere.
Guess what? National Socialists were searching for the same answers as Communists (both Socialist), during a time of extreme, global hardship (financial crash, rise of crime, etc.), the Germans decided to organize their society along the lines of armies, that could be taught to march in formation carrying pageant-like torches early in the piece, even as the government were hiding the full extent of what they were building (i.e. munitions factories and autobahns) from Versailles-treaty afficionados. The moment Hitler decided to stop paying those murderous damages for WW1 so that he ould look after Germans, who had an inflation problem, he was declared literally Satan by the West. So NAtional Socialism = le bad.
Meanwhile the Russians mobilized their population towards decentralized agriculture and government controlled war-machine industries, in preparation for yet another invasion from Europeans. (Yes, they knew about those, from before - the devastation of a civil war and foreign destabilization was enough of an indicator for what was coming). Communism meant empowering the working classes, and they did exactly that. Any hard-working citizen was useful member of society. It is just that when communists decided to root out the de-stabilizing, mostly tribal, dissidents (cough ... that Khazarian issue), they were labelled as totalitarian arseholes. But, you know, empowering the working classes = MArxism = le bad.
Agree
There is hardly a spit of difference between fascism and socialism. Both left wing ideologies.
This post glows brighter than the skies of hiroshima.
Edit Glows* not grows
u/#pepenuke
The 'greatest allies' were Soviet Union, Britain and USA. Go figure. And the most grievously harmed peoples, in terms of numbers, were the Soviets. Not the 6 Garillion Billion - and now we deserve a homeland peeps, but three times that figure. And they were fighting on their own soil. Google the WW2 casualty numbers and see for youself who bore the brunt on any side of that war.
Operation paperclip meant that the German, and Western Ukrainian Officer-POWs were quickly moved to 'allied countries' instead of letting them inhumanely starve to death in open-air fenced off, dry, no-food prisons, as the enraged Americans were wont to do. After all, those were officers, not just plods.
Soviets sent those officer POWs to work-camp Gulags in a frozen place. Half-alive, or dying, whatever. Westerners were more subtle (LOL), and placed them in their militaries. So now, the difference in treatment of those paperclipped officers is coming back and haunting the peeps who cavorted with the enemy. The West did NAtSee that coming.
Sticky’d as I think we can all agree Conservatives nor Nationalists are Fascist Nazi’s. We just want what’s best for our own Nations, cultures, and people Nationally and then World-Wide.
Can someone please rephrase this? I can’t grasp the essence of
The sheeple still canNA SEE It.
In my opinion most of them never will. They are to indoctrinated. Even the horrific crimes perpetrated on them will not open their eyes.
Totalitarian has a left and right so does libertarianism.
A right totalitarian is a Nazi (rhino) A left totalitarian is a commie (Democratic Party)
A patriot of the USA who is for freedom and the constitution is a libertarianism right or left. The word right and left are only words that are not defined correctly.
The school system in the USA really did a number. No wonder the military says it is not required any longer :)