They can FAFO all they want. There are plenty of us that were sent to fight them in their own lands that will stand ready to defend our own lands from their invasion, if it comes down to it.
I'll give you that, but I do think we have laws about calling for the overthrow of our government. This isn't free speech. Calling for genocide isn't free speech either. If we had a functioning government, these people would be arrested and tried for treason.
That's certainly the easier and more politically viable solution, but I did preface that with "if we had a functional government." That's really important, because we believe in the rule of law and the equal application of the law. All people are subject to the same laws. You or I have to follow those laws and would be subject to the charges and trial. So, too, should they.
Principles are really important. This is why the hold kids ruthlessly accountable to the rules in baseball or gymnastics or whatever: to teach a lesson about equality. None of us is "privileged" to be given leniency. We all get the same justice. That's our value. That's a fundamental part of what our nation is.
As for actually deporting them, that gets tricky because of the citizenship question. You can't just deport citizens. You can't just strip them of their citizenship once given (international law gets entangling here).
These people should never have been brought here. Now that they are, they're a problem we're likely stuck with ad infinitum, same as Europe with its own subversives.
How can they make a law against calling for the overthrow of our government? It is our natural right to be able to do so, if we feel it is needed. The Declaration of Independence spells it out nicely, but there is a lot of other evidence to this truth outside of the DoI.
You don't say "death to America" if you mean that. That's just a justification, a rationalization of a decent person's mind that hopes that there are decent people on the other side.
It's one thing when they say this in another country; it's entirely different when they say it in ours. A place where they have claimed a home for themselves and their children, through one method or another.
Even if I subscribe to your train of thought, the only end result is that there is an implicit ellipses at the end of your post, followed by "to be replaced by Sharia Law".
If you listen to the people declaring holy war on the U.S. in the Middle East, they say similar things. It's a justification for righteous fury, nothing more.
Obviously the government needs to be taken back and controlled by people who aren't policing the world, being tyrants to their own citizens, etc.
But we don't say that..So why do we allow any justification for them to say that?
I maintain rejection of the Constitution protecting illegals and other non-citizens, which Dearborn has a lot of. It was a travesty of a ruling to extend the protection of the Constitution to non-citizens, especially illegals.
Dearborn also has a lot of people acting on it too.
The ones who are citizens saying it? I can still absolutely shit on them for saying it, even if I can't advocate for action. Just like I tell the self loathing whites to go to a country they don't hate too.
Oh I absolutely agree that even citizens can go screw themselves for saying it, but I wouldn’t take action to disallow them to say it or anything else they want. Completely agree that illegals should definitely NOT be afforded any constitutional inclusion. Get the hell outta my country and come back in the right way I say.
The correct way to express that is to support voting for political change. We work within the system. We vote for guys like Ron Paul ("end the Fed") and Donald Trump. We protest. We don't call for the end of the entire country let alone call for the genocide of its people. "Death to America" isn't free speech. It isn't a protest against the government. SCOTUS has addressed. This. You can say you disagree with the gov't. You can be vulgar about it. You can say "f--- the police" to a cop's face and he can't do anything about it. You can burn the American flag. But you can't stand in front of a crowd and organize a violent revolution. That's treason.
They do this daily. FISA is up for a vote, so the FBI makes a big deal out of this now. This is narrative building and manipulation of weak congress critters.
Nothing a hot bacon grease enema can’t fix.
They can FAFO all they want. There are plenty of us that were sent to fight them in their own lands that will stand ready to defend our own lands from their invasion, if it comes down to it.
I'll give you that, but I do think we have laws about calling for the overthrow of our government. This isn't free speech. Calling for genocide isn't free speech either. If we had a functioning government, these people would be arrested and tried for treason.
Just send them back to the shithole country most of them came from.
That's certainly the easier and more politically viable solution, but I did preface that with "if we had a functional government." That's really important, because we believe in the rule of law and the equal application of the law. All people are subject to the same laws. You or I have to follow those laws and would be subject to the charges and trial. So, too, should they.
Principles are really important. This is why the hold kids ruthlessly accountable to the rules in baseball or gymnastics or whatever: to teach a lesson about equality. None of us is "privileged" to be given leniency. We all get the same justice. That's our value. That's a fundamental part of what our nation is.
As for actually deporting them, that gets tricky because of the citizenship question. You can't just deport citizens. You can't just strip them of their citizenship once given (international law gets entangling here).
These people should never have been brought here. Now that they are, they're a problem we're likely stuck with ad infinitum, same as Europe with its own subversives.
How can they make a law against calling for the overthrow of our government? It is our natural right to be able to do so, if we feel it is needed. The Declaration of Independence spells it out nicely, but there is a lot of other evidence to this truth outside of the DoI.
Dearborn should be one of the first places to clean up
Agreed
Maybe not death to all of America(ns), but death to the corrupt system that is using our taxes dollars to fund horrible atrocities all over the world.
You don't say "death to America" if you mean that. That's just a justification, a rationalization of a decent person's mind that hopes that there are decent people on the other side.
It's one thing when they say this in another country; it's entirely different when they say it in ours. A place where they have claimed a home for themselves and their children, through one method or another.
Even if I subscribe to your train of thought, the only end result is that there is an implicit ellipses at the end of your post, followed by "to be replaced by Sharia Law".
Well he has a point, if you listened to the first guy talking in the video he IS talking about the corrupt system that the U.S. government is part of.
If you listen to the people declaring holy war on the U.S. in the Middle East, they say similar things. It's a justification for righteous fury, nothing more.
Obviously the government needs to be taken back and controlled by people who aren't policing the world, being tyrants to their own citizens, etc.
But we don't say that..So why do we allow any justification for them to say that?
Well they can “say” it all they want or you don’t really believe in the first amendment. Now acting on it is an entirely different matter.
I maintain rejection of the Constitution protecting illegals and other non-citizens, which Dearborn has a lot of. It was a travesty of a ruling to extend the protection of the Constitution to non-citizens, especially illegals.
Dearborn also has a lot of people acting on it too.
The ones who are citizens saying it? I can still absolutely shit on them for saying it, even if I can't advocate for action. Just like I tell the self loathing whites to go to a country they don't hate too.
Oh I absolutely agree that even citizens can go screw themselves for saying it, but I wouldn’t take action to disallow them to say it or anything else they want. Completely agree that illegals should definitely NOT be afforded any constitutional inclusion. Get the hell outta my country and come back in the right way I say.
Then we are in agreement.
I also still think we never should have let things get this far and it's extremely unfortunate that we did.
The correct way to express that is to support voting for political change. We work within the system. We vote for guys like Ron Paul ("end the Fed") and Donald Trump. We protest. We don't call for the end of the entire country let alone call for the genocide of its people. "Death to America" isn't free speech. It isn't a protest against the government. SCOTUS has addressed. This. You can say you disagree with the gov't. You can be vulgar about it. You can say "f--- the police" to a cop's face and he can't do anything about it. You can burn the American flag. But you can't stand in front of a crowd and organize a violent revolution. That's treason.
Fuck Islam, deport them all! “Religious freedoms” my ass!
They do this daily. FISA is up for a vote, so the FBI makes a big deal out of this now. This is narrative building and manipulation of weak congress critters.
To call for death to combat death, is like calling for darkness to combat darkness.
The FBI has become an anti-American organization.
It needs to be disbanded.
That’s enough reason to take action.
CATHOLICS not Christians
Glad I pay taxes...