Israel initially chose to respond with extreme force. An F-35 loaded with a nuclear bomb was sent east over Jordan.The mission: cause a high-altitude detonation over Iran that would provoke a surge in the high-capacity power lines, crippling Iran's electric grid, as well as disabling all electronic devices. An EMP attack. However... As the Israeli F-35 was leaving Jordanian airspace it was shot down by the Russian Air Force. Hence the publicised version of the Israeli counter response was such a travesty. In the end, all sides decided not to publicise the real news - to de-escalate what could well turn into WWIII.
I doubt the shoot down and the aircraft would not be flying alone. It would also need refueling on the way in and the way out. If the F-35 were to do an EMP type attack, then it would likely do an old fashioned over the shoulder toss.
What Really Happened When Israel Attacked Iran - Revealing Analysis with solid Sources 🤔💭 Theory 😲💡
posted 5 days ago by OregonAngel2 +31 / -1
This sounds pretty wild, but if you look into the details it ends up being the only reasonable explanation of what actually happened during the Israeli attack on Iran, and furthermore it explains major strange military and political events that have happened since then.
Speaker Johnson's betrayal, Israel's inexplicable wimpy military response, widespread sudden finding of weapons for Ukraine... they all make sense given all the facts.
Let's go through this piece by piece in order:
Netanyahu calls for an EMP attack on Iran:
On April 1st the Israelis attacked a consulate in Syria killing upper level Iranian military officers and others. Two weeks later the Iranians attacked Israel on 14 April.
The next day, April 15th, "Netanyahu instructed the army to propose targets in Iran, attacks on which would “send a signal”, but without casualties"
– Washington Post https://t.me/European_dissident/51628
How do you cause damage but not have casualties? There is only one clear way: An EMP missile also known as an electromagnetic pulse weapon.
Understand all the points but there are major issues with the disinformation Pepe Escobar was fed by his Asian source. Then again, there are also major issues with the official account as well.
No way a Russian Jet or missile from Syria downed an Israeli F35 over Jordan or Iraq with a nuke on it without it getting out or without the US or Israel responding against the Russian asset that launched the attack. Also Highly unlikely Russia could have successfully targeted the highly defensible F35 so far from their own airbase & Area of Operations and struck the only F35 in the strike force that carried the Nuke.
If a live nuke (or for that matter the F35 airframe itself) was lost in such an incident in Jordan or Iraq there would have been a massive NEST team being sent in to recover it with full air cover and likely substantial ground equipment assets. No way you cover that up completely without such an effort leaking,
A high level nuke to cause an EMP from an F35 is highly unlikely. Much more likely a low level US made CHAMP EMP missile would be used for this purpose instead, but the CHAMP missile cannot be carried internally on the F35. Then again, the Rampage Missile Israel reportedly used to take out the S-300 radar at the airbase in Iran is also reportedly too large to be carried internally on the F35 as well poking a big old hole in the mostly accepted account of events as well.
If either the Rampage missile or the CHAMP missile were carried externally on the F35, it is unlikely the F35 would have been able to penetrate Iranian air defenses so deeply without being detected and both missiles in their standard configuration reportedly lack the range to reach the Iranian Airbase if launched from Iraqi airspace. There is also the issue that if either missile were used, Iran would be displaying the missile debris showing the west they would be reverse engineering the technology to humiliate the west.
Airspace of most countries in area was denied to US & Israel for purposes of a counterattack against Iran & Biden refused to support an Israeli Counterattack against Iran as well. An Israeli F35 couldn't reach Iran without refueling support from the US or UAE over Iraq. Unless a B2 was used for refueling for the airstrike, there would be no hiding the refueling from radar so even the official story of the airstrike is sketchy. There were reports of tankers loitering over Iraq that night that eventually exfiltrated to the UAE.
Pepe was probably fed disinformation on purpose to discredit him. It also may have been done to hide the true nature of the attack on the s-300 air defense battery at the airfield in Iran.
I'm not sure we will ever know what really happened with regard to this attack without more info about the attack coming out in the future, but it may have been accomplished by alternate means or for all we know, may not have happened at all.
Very strange everyone has been so quiet about the exact details of the attack and it suggests that the details we have been told cannot be relied upon without further disclosure..
Russian EW may be able to disable an aircraft without crashing it. There are numerous sources reporting on the F-35 vulnerability to hacking:
https://www.popularmechanics.com › military › aviation › a25100725 › f-35-vulnerability-hacked
F-35's Hacking Vulnerability | Could the F-35 Be Hacked?
The F-35's Greatest Vulnerability Isn't Enemy Weapons. It's Being Hacked. The high-tech fighter can hide from radar, but hackers are a different matter. The F-35 Lightning II can evade radar while ...
https://nationalinterest.org › blog › buzz › f-35’s-cyber-reliance-makes-it-powerful—-also-vulnerable-attack-198014
The F-35's Cyber Reliance Makes It Powerful—But Also Vulnerable to ...
The F-35's computing power also brings the fighter jet's crucial "software drop" updates to fruition, an incremental upgrade process that continuously adds new weapons interfaces, improved ...
https://www.pogo.org › analysis › uncorrected-design-flaws-cyber-vulnerabilities-and-unreliability-plague-the-f-35-program
Uncorrected Design Flaws, Cyber-Vulnerabilities, and Unreliability…
Unaddressed Design Flaws Adding Risk. The services set lofty goals for the F-35 program at its 2001 inception. The program established 536 performance specifications for the functional requirements of the aircraft and its components. As of September 17, 2019, the program had satisfied only 493 of them. " The latest testing report on the F-35 ...
https://responsiblestatecraft.org › 2022 › 03 › 16 › the-russians-probably-arent-too-worried-about-the-f-35
The Russians probably aren't too worried about the F-35 fighter
The F-35 used to be frequently described as a "flying computer," although that happens rarely today. The reason is simple: one of the aircraft's biggest weaknesses is its vulnerability to cyberattacks. Three testing directors in a row have warned about the hacking danger, but many of their concerns have yet to be fixed. ...
https://defence.nridigital.com › global_defence_technology_mar19 › back_door_for_hackers_f-35_cyber_weaknesses_in_the_spotlight
Back door for hackers? F-35 cyber weaknesses in the spotlight
The F-35's next-generation logistics Even the F-35's logistics system - not the most exciting aspect of the Joint Strike Fighter - will be a first-of-its-kind capability, allowing operators from across the world to share key platform data and use over 60 apps to manage different areas including training, maintenance and the wider supply chain.This is known as the Autonomic Logistics ...
Nuke must be armed and the correct firing sequence is required for correct detonation. If you blow up a nuke you just scatter the fuel. Often, to get the correct detonation the fuel is brought together in two or more parts and then an exploding casing is used to crush the fuel into a small space, the casing is arranged so there are segments that have different reaction times to a signal, so the signal must be a sequence in the correct order and timing that only the genuine firing mechanism can deliver - something "like" that.
Ryan is talking about this tweet:
https://twitter.com/RealPepeEscobar/status/1781652011173253524
So, how did they know?
Could be https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2024/05/new-chinese-satellites-ending-us-monopoly-ability-track-and-hit-long-distance-targets/396272/?oref=d1-homepage-top-story
I doubt the shoot down and the aircraft would not be flying alone. It would also need refueling on the way in and the way out. If the F-35 were to do an EMP type attack, then it would likely do an old fashioned over the shoulder toss.
What Really Happened When Israel Attacked Iran - Revealing Analysis with solid Sources 🤔💭 Theory 😲💡 posted 5 days ago by OregonAngel2 +31 / -1
This sounds pretty wild, but if you look into the details it ends up being the only reasonable explanation of what actually happened during the Israeli attack on Iran, and furthermore it explains major strange military and political events that have happened since then.
Speaker Johnson's betrayal, Israel's inexplicable wimpy military response, widespread sudden finding of weapons for Ukraine... they all make sense given all the facts.
Let's go through this piece by piece in order:
Netanyahu calls for an EMP attack on Iran:
On April 1st the Israelis attacked a consulate in Syria killing upper level Iranian military officers and others. Two weeks later the Iranians attacked Israel on 14 April.
The next day, April 15th, "Netanyahu instructed the army to propose targets in Iran, attacks on which would “send a signal”, but without casualties" – Washington Post https://t.me/European_dissident/51628
How do you cause damage but not have casualties? There is only one clear way: An EMP missile also known as an electromagnetic pulse weapon.
Read more details and implication with images here: https://www.dagnyintel.com/post/what-really-happened-when-israel-attacked-iran
Understand all the points but there are major issues with the disinformation Pepe Escobar was fed by his Asian source. Then again, there are also major issues with the official account as well.
No way a Russian Jet or missile from Syria downed an Israeli F35 over Jordan or Iraq with a nuke on it without it getting out or without the US or Israel responding against the Russian asset that launched the attack. Also Highly unlikely Russia could have successfully targeted the highly defensible F35 so far from their own airbase & Area of Operations and struck the only F35 in the strike force that carried the Nuke.
If a live nuke (or for that matter the F35 airframe itself) was lost in such an incident in Jordan or Iraq there would have been a massive NEST team being sent in to recover it with full air cover and likely substantial ground equipment assets. No way you cover that up completely without such an effort leaking,
A high level nuke to cause an EMP from an F35 is highly unlikely. Much more likely a low level US made CHAMP EMP missile would be used for this purpose instead, but the CHAMP missile cannot be carried internally on the F35. Then again, the Rampage Missile Israel reportedly used to take out the S-300 radar at the airbase in Iran is also reportedly too large to be carried internally on the F35 as well poking a big old hole in the mostly accepted account of events as well.
If either the Rampage missile or the CHAMP missile were carried externally on the F35, it is unlikely the F35 would have been able to penetrate Iranian air defenses so deeply without being detected and both missiles in their standard configuration reportedly lack the range to reach the Iranian Airbase if launched from Iraqi airspace. There is also the issue that if either missile were used, Iran would be displaying the missile debris showing the west they would be reverse engineering the technology to humiliate the west.
Airspace of most countries in area was denied to US & Israel for purposes of a counterattack against Iran & Biden refused to support an Israeli Counterattack against Iran as well. An Israeli F35 couldn't reach Iran without refueling support from the US or UAE over Iraq. Unless a B2 was used for refueling for the airstrike, there would be no hiding the refueling from radar so even the official story of the airstrike is sketchy. There were reports of tankers loitering over Iraq that night that eventually exfiltrated to the UAE.
Pepe was probably fed disinformation on purpose to discredit him. It also may have been done to hide the true nature of the attack on the s-300 air defense battery at the airfield in Iran.
I'm not sure we will ever know what really happened with regard to this attack without more info about the attack coming out in the future, but it may have been accomplished by alternate means or for all we know, may not have happened at all.
Very strange everyone has been so quiet about the exact details of the attack and it suggests that the details we have been told cannot be relied upon without further disclosure..
If you read the article you will see that it wasn't actually a nuke. There are other ways to cause an EMP without a nuke.
See https://www.dagnyintel.com/post/what-really-happened-when-israel-attacked-iran and https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13325343/US-Air-Force-develops-missiles-obliterate-Iran-nuclear-facilities.html
Russian EW may be able to disable an aircraft without crashing it. There are numerous sources reporting on the F-35 vulnerability to hacking:
https://www.popularmechanics.com › military › aviation › a25100725 › f-35-vulnerability-hacked F-35's Hacking Vulnerability | Could the F-35 Be Hacked? The F-35's Greatest Vulnerability Isn't Enemy Weapons. It's Being Hacked. The high-tech fighter can hide from radar, but hackers are a different matter. The F-35 Lightning II can evade radar while ...
https://nationalinterest.org › blog › buzz › f-35’s-cyber-reliance-makes-it-powerful—-also-vulnerable-attack-198014 The F-35's Cyber Reliance Makes It Powerful—But Also Vulnerable to ... The F-35's computing power also brings the fighter jet's crucial "software drop" updates to fruition, an incremental upgrade process that continuously adds new weapons interfaces, improved ...
https://www.pogo.org › analysis › uncorrected-design-flaws-cyber-vulnerabilities-and-unreliability-plague-the-f-35-program Uncorrected Design Flaws, Cyber-Vulnerabilities, and Unreliability… Unaddressed Design Flaws Adding Risk. The services set lofty goals for the F-35 program at its 2001 inception. The program established 536 performance specifications for the functional requirements of the aircraft and its components. As of September 17, 2019, the program had satisfied only 493 of them. " The latest testing report on the F-35 ...
https://responsiblestatecraft.org › 2022 › 03 › 16 › the-russians-probably-arent-too-worried-about-the-f-35 The Russians probably aren't too worried about the F-35 fighter The F-35 used to be frequently described as a "flying computer," although that happens rarely today. The reason is simple: one of the aircraft's biggest weaknesses is its vulnerability to cyberattacks. Three testing directors in a row have warned about the hacking danger, but many of their concerns have yet to be fixed. ...
https://defence.nridigital.com › global_defence_technology_mar19 › back_door_for_hackers_f-35_cyber_weaknesses_in_the_spotlight Back door for hackers? F-35 cyber weaknesses in the spotlight The F-35's next-generation logistics Even the F-35's logistics system - not the most exciting aspect of the Joint Strike Fighter - will be a first-of-its-kind capability, allowing operators from across the world to share key platform data and use over 60 apps to manage different areas including training, maintenance and the wider supply chain.This is known as the Autonomic Logistics ...
What's your hypothesis on the Israeli missile that fell in Iraq?
This is such a fucking stupid point. If the world lost power billions would die within one winter. This is why you don't do nuclear wars. Or EMPs.
Winter is not so bad in many places. Would be bad for Northern countries and over-industrialized countries.
An F-35 can hold a nuke? And it can be shot down with said nuke without it detonating?
Okay
Nuke must be armed and the correct firing sequence is required for correct detonation. If you blow up a nuke you just scatter the fuel. Often, to get the correct detonation the fuel is brought together in two or more parts and then an exploding casing is used to crush the fuel into a small space, the casing is arranged so there are segments that have different reaction times to a signal, so the signal must be a sequence in the correct order and timing that only the genuine firing mechanism can deliver - something "like" that.
Nukes need a specific detonation so I am told.