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Amazing thread 🧵: Putin literally saved Russia from the West by rebuilding their military industrial complex from scratch after the fall of the Soviet Union (twitter.com) 🇷🇺 REDSKI PILLSKI 💊
posted 2 years ago by catsfive 2 years ago by catsfive +185 / -0
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– Qled 19 points 2 years ago +19 / -0

It seems obvious to me that Putin could end the war in Ukraine tomorrow if he wanted to, but he's purposely dragging it out to bleed the west of money, weapons, and eventually men. It's no wonder that President Trump called him "very savy" when he started the special military operation in Ukraine.

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– Pbman2 11 points 2 years ago +11 / -0

The real war is economic, and they are winning that,

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– ILoveIvermectin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Ukraine +BRICS

Also a money settlement system outside of BRICS Putin is building a whole new financial system while draining the west of their war profits. This war is destroying the cabal but they are too dumb to walk away.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Mir

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– Ironside43 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

That's wishful thinking.

Putin want's Russia's Empire back. Russian history repeats itself. The Tsars wanted an Empire but weren't strong enough to rule it, and their Empire collapsed. The communists had an even bigger Empire, but despite their authoritarian control that collapsed too. After every collapse Russia is humiliated, which feeds the desire to build a new Empire. Putin is the latest, and least successful; even with the help of Republican politicians Putin can't take Ukraine. His puppet regime in Georgia is collapsing. All he has left is Belorus and Transnistria.

I've been to Russia and it is in a sorry state. Poor, dirty, shit on the streets of Moscow. Poorer and dirtier than Mexico City.

It's a shit hole.

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– Oskar64 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Another troll slips in.

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– Ironside43 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Most people on here have never visited Russia, or any of the other former Communist countries. It's easy to be taken in by Russian propaganda

Russia is a poor country. Moscow is a shit hole. What is more galling is that Russia is falling behind the countries it used to look down on

I was in Belgrade a few weeks ago. Belgrade is visibly much more prosperous than Moscow. It has a huge population of affluent young Russians who have fled Putin and the draft.

Even back in the days of communism Russia produced great writers, composers, musicians, athletes. They produced real stars. Over the last few decades all of that has gone. For the first time in centuries Russia is out of the big league in sports, culture, everything. A huge blow to national pride.

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– Oskar64 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I have been to Russia on several occasions.I must have looked at different parts than you, although I will concede that every country and City have parts of them that are shitholes. To make a statement like Moscow is a shithole as though the entire City is a festering hole is nonsense.

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– Ironside43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

It's as bad as Mumbai but with worse weather. Squalid.

And I note that none of the Putin fanboys can answer the other question?

What happened to Russian culture, art, music and sport? For centuries it was a world leader in music, literature.

And now nothing. If you want a symbol of Russia's failure as a nation just try and find a composer, or a star footballer. A great writer.

Nothing.

Just some globalist oligarchs stealing all the money and using it to buy expensive houses in London

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– Oskar64 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The same could be said for all countries or have you not seen what passes for American/British Music and Literature and Art lately. Also try not to be a fucking child by calling people who do not agree with you Fanboys. Its Pathetic

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– Ironside43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You may not like British or American art, music, literature, or art. But at least Britain and the US produce art, and movies, and music.

Russia has nothing. No great sportsmen, artists, musicians. All from a country that was once a global cultural leader for hundreds of years.

Russia is a country in decline. Just look at make life expectancy. It's as bad as sub saharan Africa.

And I am afraid that there are some silly little Putin fanboys on this board. Weak people need a strong leader, and get themselves over excited about sad Vlad.

You make yourself look foolish getting upset about it.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Is it repeating? Or is it consistent? From the first hour of Tucker's Putin interview, I took it to be consistent

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– Qled 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

This is all MSM propaganda. Russia is becoming the greatest country in the world. They're banning all this LGBTQ nonsense and returning to traditional values. They're also cracking down on misinformation and putting lying journalists in jail, could you imagine if our leaders had the balls to do that? They value truth and freedom in Russia. Once President Trump is back in office, I have no doubt that he will set things right with Russia. He'll acknowledge their historic claims over Europe and Alaska, withdraw from NATO, and in return, they will help America become great again. Together, they will crush the global elites and bring in a new age of property, cheap fossil fuels, booming economies, record stock markets, and the largest military alliance ever seen.

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– Ironside43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Are you serious?

You would hand Alaska and Eastern Europe to Russia?

The greatest country in the world with a male life expectancy the same as sub saharan Africa?

You must be having a laugh. It's a shit hole

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Nobody is giving Russia back. We kept the receipt, here, I think I have it in my right front library of Congress pocket... 😅

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– Qled 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Russia has historic claims to these places. Where have you been for the last two years? We've seen numerous justifications for why Ukraine is part of Russia. Also, who is showing you the numbers on the male life expectancy? Is it the World Health Organization? Wikipedia? I would hardly consider these to be reliable.

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– Ironside43 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

You would hand over Alaska to Russia?

Not really a patriot then are you?

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– CriticalThinking4Me 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Do you think Russia is not losing money, weapons and men? Do you think is cost free?

Just before I came here I was reading reports that Russia just lost 2 ships in 2 days

A minesweeper called Kovrovets And small missile ship called Cyclone which was in launched with great fanfare last year.

Cyclone just happened and not confirmed yett

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– Oskar64 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

Good name, maybe try it.

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– CriticalThinking4Me 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Please elaborate.

Also do you think this war was cost free for Russia?

Putin has just shaken up his own military.

Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu was demoted.

Nikolai Patrushev was removed as Security Council Secretary. Shoigu put in his place.

Lieutenant-General Yuri Kuznetsov was arrested. Deputy Defense Minister Timur Ivanov

The new Russian Defense Minister has never served in the military.

And then there's Yevgeny Prigozhin.

He was a key element of Russia's defense system He was asssinated after he rebelled against others in the Russian Military, particularly Shoigu. Patrushev allegedly approved the assasination.

Me Personally? I don't think this would be happening if everything was hunky-dory.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Good comment. Russia has its own deep state, and the war against these criminals is also happening over there too

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– Pbman2 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Think back to ww2 Russia lost more in a bad day, than they have in this war. Probably more like a few bad hours of ww2.

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– BilleeBeene 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Take the red pill…

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– Qled 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

They're not losing anything important. All they're losing is old Soviet tanks, ships, and hardware as well as some criminal recruits. There's a reason Russia isn't using their stock piles of newer vehicles, like the T-14 Armada or Su-57. The MSM is saying it is because they're afraid, but we know the real reason. If they brought these out in large numbers, the war would be over in hours. President Putin is trading garbage for strategic advantage.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Well, the t14 doesn't really bring any significant advantages to this conflict, as it's basically had a relatively stable frontline for 2 years, there's not really a requirement for mobile artillery and Ukraine isn't throwing any tactically trained or well equipped armor units at the front line, so the requirement for many copies of Russia's most expensive to produce tank like the t14 aren't needed.

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– Tossinitrightin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

My thoughts (hopes) as well.

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– Latin_Patriot_MAGA 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Or he wants to continue exposing the globalist elite more and for many of them who are still hidden pulling the strings of all this to come to light and for the world to know about them.

He is not interested in war, as you say, he could have won this war in less than a year, his main objective is to expose the elite.

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– ILoveIvermectin 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

The golden billion as they are called in Russia. He said there are a few wealthy people on this planet making people miserable 😂

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– Tim_Berframer 8 points 2 years ago +8 / -0

After it was looted by Jeffrey Sachs and his Harvard cronies.

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– Psiobs 7 points 2 years ago +7 / -0

That was very interesting, thankQ.

Here's the ThreadReader linkie: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1792176953769746585.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

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– Bowster 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

and thankQ as well!

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– catsfive [M] [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

MVP 🐸

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– PhDinNY 5 points 2 years ago +5 / -0

Saved from the West? Russia could have become a free, capitalistic, society if it wasn't for Putin's control. As if the "West" was going to invade Russia.

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– Anosha 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

There is thriving business here in Russia. The competition in markets puts Main Street USA to shame. Would be interested in knowing what you’re talking about more specifically.

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– PhDinNY 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Just that Putin, a former KGB head?, is a murderous tyrant. Yes, there is free market economics going on, but his quest to be a Czar is pretty obvious.

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– Anosha 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Do you disagree with Trump’s take on such talking points?

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– PhDinNY 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

I'm sorry, but I don't know what Trump's take on Putin is. Trump said "nice" things about the leader of North Korea, so I wouldn't gage how Trump really feels by what he says publicly.

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– CriticalThinking4Me 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

by the way the guy who's thread you are discussing is very anti Putin.

The whole point of his research is to design better sanctions on Russia.

For example, one of his key insights Russia has almost no machine tool production capacity of its own.

For example, they looked at job listings for a Russia arms producer and the skills they looked for were people with experience from 10 different tools made in the Czech Republic, Germany and Italy. None were made in Russia.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Well, Russia is an energy export country, basically, it makes sense that their industries are too old by the best the West has to offer. For instance their BMP production really suffered from sanctions from Germany when they weren't able to get any controls from companies like Bosch, for instance

I'm just saying that it's not much of a criticism recruiting for people with talent in these foreign machinery and tools

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– deleted 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

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