Pesticides, herbicides and additives. I am fond of cigars but the only cigar maker that only uses organic tobacco is Valencia. Quite pricey but worth the avoidance of all the tru poisons.
Sure, vitamin C can also kill with high dose. I'm not a fan of banning anything, free market that shit!! But I've only seen intense addiction from nicotine use, nothing in between.
Did you know “water poisoning” is a real thing and people die every year of it? It’s also referred to as water intoxication and water toxicity.
The LD50 for Tylenol is 4000mg for the average adult, and caffeine is actually incredibly lethal, at 150-200mg per KG, and in some cases in the 50mg per KG range.
People have died from too much oxygen, water, heat and cold. What are we talking about team?
Nicotine poses several health hazards. There is an increased risk of cardiovascular, respiratory, gastrointestinal disorders. There is decreased immune response and it also poses ill impacts on the reproductive health. It affects the cell proliferation, oxidative stress, apoptosis, DNA mutation by various mechanisms which leads to cancer. It also affects the tumor proliferation and metastasis and causes resistance to chemo and radio therapeutic agents.
I’ve seen no study to suggest this; I have heard from the same people that horse paste will kill you (it does not); and safrole was used as a medicine by everyone in early America but “that caused cancer” in mice that they gave insane doses to (was also the basis for root beer- as it’s made from sassafras root), cocoa leaves are banned as well, but Brazilians still make tea from the leaves.
I don’t even think tobacco leaves are terrible, it’s the crap they put in modern tobacco.
You sent me down an interesting little rabbit hole (:
what components of chewing tobacco cause cancer?
The primary carcinogenic components in chewing tobacco are tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). TSNAs are formed during the curing and processing of tobacco, while PAHs are produced when tobacco is burned. Both of these chemicals have been linked to various types of cancer, including oral, pancreatic, and esophageal cancer.
what are TSNAs?
Tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) are a group of potent carcinogenic compounds found in tobacco products, including chewing tobacco. They are formed during the curing and processing of tobacco due to the reaction of nicotine with nitrosating agents. The most common TSNAs are N'-nitrosonornicotine (NNN) and 4-(methylnitrosamino)-1-(3-pyridyl)-1-butanone (NNK). These chemicals are known to cause DNA damage, leading to the development of various types of cancer, particularly in the oral cavity, pancreas, and esophagus.
what nitrosating agents are used?
In tobacco products, nitrosating agents are primarily introduced during the curing, processing, and storage stages. Some common nitrosating agents found in tobacco include nitrite (from the use of nitrogen-based fertilizers), nitrogen oxides (from combustion during smoking), and N-nitroso compounds (formed from the reaction of nicotine with other chemicals). These agents react with nicotine and other tobacco alkaloids to form tobacco-specific N-nitrosamines (TSNAs) which are potent carcinogens.
is it possible to cure tobacco without these nitrosating agents?
It is theoretically possible to cure tobacco without nitrosating agents, but it would require significant changes in the curing and processing methods currently used in the tobacco industry. This could involve using alternative curing methods that do not introduce nitrosating agents, such as air-curing or shade-curing, or by implementing stricter quality control measures during the processing and storage of tobacco to minimize the formation of TSNAs. However, such changes would likely impact the taste and overall characteristics of the final product, which could make it less appealing to consumers.
sooo yeah. Not nicotine. It's, once again, these big corporations doing things in the processing of the products we consume, taking short-cuts, flavor boosting at the cost of safety reduction for the consumers. Same with processed foods
You know, I've always wondered how that's the case for tobacco and literally no other foodstuff given it's not going to be tobacco farmers purposely ordering the cancer fertilizer.
I am interested to hear the downvoter's information. I already knew it when I heard it from a cardiovascular specialist speaking to a group of >70 other specialists at a cardiovascular center of a major hospital. He said the latest research shows lung cancer in smokers is from radioactive isotopes in the leaf. None of them batted an eye. I thought this information needs to be made public and the doctors who know are responsible for making an effort to do that.
Quitting nicotine was rough. 6 weeks of the worst sleep of my life, not to mention the effect on mood during the day..for me the process of quitting was enough to deter me from picking up the habit back up.
Thats right. The tobacco industry swore blind it wasn't addictive and didn't cause cancer and only came clean about it when long jail sentences were staring them in the face.
And then they invented vaping to get people hooked in their product by telling them its was the elements in the smoke that caused cancer, not the nicotine, the vapes were there to help you get off nicotine and all and sundry bought into this lie.
If it was there to help you kick the habit why don't vapes have a data sheet with them as all medical products must have by law?
No more so than caffeine. There are a lot of benefits of nicotine, more than caffeine. Both are found naturally in plants. If you eat pepper/peppers, eggplant and many other vegetables you consume nicotine. It's also used in weight loss because of it's effect on metabolism.
2 things are associated with the highest increases in mortality, primarily cigarette use, and auxilliary inhalation of smoke.
People who inhale cigar or pipe smoke only have a doubled risk of lung cancer, from 1 in 16 chance to a 1 in 8 chance. People who do not inhale have negligible increases in all mortality rates versus background rates.
Cigarettes kill, not tobacco, not nicotine, cigarettes do.
Nicotine does not kill. Has many many medical benefits . What kills are the chemicals used in tobacoo products. Nicotine Patches offer low dose of nicotine have many benefits for your brain and immune system. They don't like nicotine because it is medicinal and now that companies are selling pure nicotine without all the deadly addictive chemicals, our deep state goons need it gone. Also it kills covid and boosts your immune system...fights alzheimers, helps people with MS..the list goes on. Nicotine is not the problem when it comes to addiction.
the more the Governemnt controls what we can and can not do the less creative and productive we becomje. We have sheep in the end. Just look around as you will see many.
There are 0 studies outlining the health risks/benefits of tobacco. All studies are on the detriment of modern carcinogenic chemical cocktail cigarettes. Form your own conclusions.
Interesting well written BUT Nicotine addiction kills….and it’s an ugly painful way to go - very very very difficult circular habit to stop
Nicotine is not the killer. Doesn't cause cancer. It's the junk in the smoke.
Yep! It's medicinal and prevents Covid.
Tobacco is the best remedy for stopping the pain from a bee or wasp sting.
Pesticides, herbicides and additives. I am fond of cigars but the only cigar maker that only uses organic tobacco is Valencia. Quite pricey but worth the avoidance of all the tru poisons.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/
Nicotine is Def a killer, I use it as an insecticide regularly in agriculture.
Welcome to the term dosage, alcohol kills bacteria but you only ever see major health issues with heavy drinking.
Sure, vitamin C can also kill with high dose. I'm not a fan of banning anything, free market that shit!! But I've only seen intense addiction from nicotine use, nothing in between.
Did you know “water poisoning” is a real thing and people die every year of it? It’s also referred to as water intoxication and water toxicity.
The LD50 for Tylenol is 4000mg for the average adult, and caffeine is actually incredibly lethal, at 150-200mg per KG, and in some cases in the 50mg per KG range.
People have died from too much oxygen, water, heat and cold. What are we talking about team?
Life is a killer, sadly. I work in chemicals, stuff I handle has a very low LD50. In general, nicotine can kill just like anything else.
Yes. OSHA has an MSDS(Material Data Safety Sheet) for H2O.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/
And I’ve read that the junk in the smoke, ironically, comes from the filters.
or is that just a cover for all the other poisons that damage us?...
wondering because George Washington grew tobacco, and he seems to be right most of the time...
https://www.mountvernon.org/search/#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=Tobacco%20&gsc.page=1
I’ve seen no study to suggest this; I have heard from the same people that horse paste will kill you (it does not); and safrole was used as a medicine by everyone in early America but “that caused cancer” in mice that they gave insane doses to (was also the basis for root beer- as it’s made from sassafras root), cocoa leaves are banned as well, but Brazilians still make tea from the leaves. I don’t even think tobacco leaves are terrible, it’s the crap they put in modern tobacco.
You sent me down an interesting little rabbit hole (:
what components of chewing tobacco cause cancer?
what are TSNAs?
what nitrosating agents are used?
is it possible to cure tobacco without these nitrosating agents?
sooo yeah. Not nicotine. It's, once again, these big corporations doing things in the processing of the products we consume, taking short-cuts, flavor boosting at the cost of safety reduction for the consumers. Same with processed foods
That is total nonsense. Nicotine is not the carcinogen.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4363846/
nicotine is used in more "medicine" than any other drug known to man...nicotine in itself isnt the problem
It's radioactive polonium in rock phosphate fertilizer taken up by the tobacco plant and deposited in the leaves that causes cancer in smokers.
You know, I've always wondered how that's the case for tobacco and literally no other foodstuff given it's not going to be tobacco farmers purposely ordering the cancer fertilizer.
Well cigarette smoking is down and cancer is way up…. So ya.
Tobacco absorbs polonium easily. Rock phosphate is considered organic. The presence of polonium in tobacco leaves has been swept under the rug.
I am interested to hear the downvoter's information. I already knew it when I heard it from a cardiovascular specialist speaking to a group of >70 other specialists at a cardiovascular center of a major hospital. He said the latest research shows lung cancer in smokers is from radioactive isotopes in the leaf. None of them batted an eye. I thought this information needs to be made public and the doctors who know are responsible for making an effort to do that.
see: https://greatawakening.win/p/17tLFhKmIb/x/c/4ZCaGXkL7GS
Quitting nicotine was rough. 6 weeks of the worst sleep of my life, not to mention the effect on mood during the day..for me the process of quitting was enough to deter me from picking up the habit back up.
Nicotine is not addictive nor is it a carcinogen, it's the other crap in cigarettes.
Thats right. The tobacco industry swore blind it wasn't addictive and didn't cause cancer and only came clean about it when long jail sentences were staring them in the face.
And then they invented vaping to get people hooked in their product by telling them its was the elements in the smoke that caused cancer, not the nicotine, the vapes were there to help you get off nicotine and all and sundry bought into this lie.
If it was there to help you kick the habit why don't vapes have a data sheet with them as all medical products must have by law?
Are vapes actually unhealthy?
I haven’t heard any info that wasn’t from the we-suddenly-flipped-because-people-are-quitting-cigarettes lobby began dropping coin.
I have heard that the disposable vapes are very nasty, they will destroy your lungs with a condition called Popcorn Lung. The UK will ban them soon.
No more so than caffeine. There are a lot of benefits of nicotine, more than caffeine. Both are found naturally in plants. If you eat pepper/peppers, eggplant and many other vegetables you consume nicotine. It's also used in weight loss because of it's effect on metabolism.
2 things are associated with the highest increases in mortality, primarily cigarette use, and auxilliary inhalation of smoke.
People who inhale cigar or pipe smoke only have a doubled risk of lung cancer, from 1 in 16 chance to a 1 in 8 chance. People who do not inhale have negligible increases in all mortality rates versus background rates.
Cigarettes kill, not tobacco, not nicotine, cigarettes do.
Nicotine does not kill. Has many many medical benefits . What kills are the chemicals used in tobacoo products. Nicotine Patches offer low dose of nicotine have many benefits for your brain and immune system. They don't like nicotine because it is medicinal and now that companies are selling pure nicotine without all the deadly addictive chemicals, our deep state goons need it gone. Also it kills covid and boosts your immune system...fights alzheimers, helps people with MS..the list goes on. Nicotine is not the problem when it comes to addiction.
Evertything is based on moderation. Even water. To much and you have water intoxication.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41533-021-00223-1
the more the Governemnt controls what we can and can not do the less creative and productive we becomje. We have sheep in the end. Just look around as you will see many.
There are 0 studies outlining the health risks/benefits of tobacco. All studies are on the detriment of modern carcinogenic chemical cocktail cigarettes. Form your own conclusions.