So, if you haven't heard of the term "forum sliding" before, it refers to making posts, whether factual or not, that are not related to the content that is discussed in the board. In most cases in other places on the net, it does have intent, and that intent is to push a narrative that's either completely false or against the grain of the purpose of discussion. I think in honesty, for what I have been witnessing happening here on GAW, that's not exactly the whole story, so what I am describing is not out of criticism, but of concern.
To those who are innocent of this, they may not realize they are doing it. There has been a LOT of this happening for a while now. Whether it's karma farming (the act of gaining popularity and reputation on a board, with really no substantial value) pure self promotion (which is actually a rule here that's not being followed sometimes, with some being either actual feds, employees or promoters of an external website), or it's because this is the only or one of the few boards that posters frequent, it serves as a deterrent, a distraction, and it really weakens the overall motive of this board; to gain better understanding about the references that Q made, and to help all anons, no matter their level of knowledge, to congregate, share ideas, dig deeper, and sometimes have a little fun, which I'm not against at all. It also creates unnecessary tension (as I am guilty of), and we should focus on getting as many anons awakened as possible, and not losing them to such antics.
I know I can't call myself a mod, but to veterans and newcomers alike, it's cluttering up the board, and some very good posts get drowned out or get basically no visibility, unless you diligently filter by "rising" or "new". The mods can only do so much, so I think we should really focus on tuning out the noise and post those types of content on their designated boards within the .win community. I've made the comment many times about switching to a vBulletin style board, which would make this issue much easier to manage, and I would be willing to help, but I know that will take quite a bit of effort.
But in the meantime, and I'm saying this humbly; please consider what you post. Check the catalog to avoid duplicates, use the correct flairs when available, research the source of your posts to make sure it's verifiable and relevant, and if you see a post that's high quality and deserves to be stickied, let the mods know! But most of all, let's try not to post things that are reposts we see on social media sites that don't relate much to Q or GAW, or do not have a reliable source. I would say that's where the filtering would have the biggest impact.
Thank you all for being here, and for all the deep research and discussion that is had here. Many forums like these have fell away, and it all started by sliding posts, sinister mods, or outright trolling and shadow banning. Just want to keep the spirit alive here and tweak things just a bit so that we can all get good, reliable info. We are doing damn good for what opposition we face, I just hope that we stay together and don't lose the momentum.
Sincerely,
An oldfag from the early 2000s
Thank you for a very good post dealing with a topic that should concern ALL board members of anything more than newbie status.
More than anything, I would characterize your post as being about GAW community culture.
Of particular note is the "I know I can't call myself a mod, but .... " point. My fundamental philosophy towards community boards (such as GAW) is that the community should always consider themselves the real owners, and the mods as a sort of government role: to uphold the integrity of the board, regulate the community and keep things running on track, but ON BEHALF of the community.
Mods are here as servants, but its incumbent on all board participants to have the mentality of good owners and not just expect the mods/servants to do all the work.
Like any nation build on democratic representative principles, the culture here only really works and/or works best when the people consider themselves at least as invested and as responsible as the mods. Participants should feel a sense of responsibility to think and act like mods, in terms of making the vibe and well-being of the forum their personal priority, even if they do not have the mod position or role.
To clarify, I do not mean participants should act like mods who occasionally have to mete out punishments, bans, and such aka administrative work, but rather in terms of caring for the forum as a whole, participants should have the civic sense and public mindedness that good mods embody.
To me, this post embodies that spirit perfectly.
So far the post has not gotten a sticky, but I think its worthy. I would suggest to the mod team that they should always have at least a 10% sticky rate for posts that highlight Forum culture, community attitude, and best practices, etc. As these are the underpinnings of the value of the forum. I know the mods cannot always get to it, and they do an amazing job already, so this is just a suggestion in case it makes sense and is useful.
/bubble_bursts
/qanaut
/propertyofuniverse
"My fundamental philosophy towards community boards (such as GAW) is that the community should always consider themselves the real owners, and the mods as a sort of government role: to uphold the integrity of the board, regulate the community and keep things running on track, but ON BEHALF of the community."
Ahem.
--PS
Right? Good luck with that. (Chuckle).
Good post as always.
Do we need a list of known bullshit sources? Pretty much all mutations of RealRawNews...maybe list known twitter accounts that are not to be trusted.
Using common sense and 30 seconds in a search engine to verify is apparently too difficult for some people.
But this is for the noobs. The usual suspects with several year old accounts that still do this have absolutely no excuse. Sorry but they can fuck off with that upvote farming bullshit and get their dopamine fix from somewhere else in life.
I get tired of seeing some of the click bait websites with debatable sources. I don't like the leftist MSM, but sometimes they are the only source for a good story, and most of us have the ability to filter out their bias and spin, and get to the facts.
Wow great stuff right here fren. I might need your help in future, writing the framework for Prayer Garden. It's basically what you just said but scaled out to .win as a whole. + A little other things.
You have my number. Metaphorically speaking.
Thanks brother. :)
A place for everyone and everyone in their place 😜😀
There has been a bit of bias against me here for a long time, but in the event that I'm wrong and I'm hoping that I am, it would be nice for a sticky, or at least a mod post that addresses the concerns. Thank you for the response, I think me and you have agreed on a lot before here, especially when it comes to weeding out posts that are obviously sliding.
Only reason I ever had anything against you was because you went off on me for calling out a liberal in a grocery store. Then you went on to say that us military members aren’t needed and we’re just useless sheepdogs that bark and do nothing. How you’re training is just as good and we’re not really needed. How we’re just “larping retards”.
That’s not “bias” against you. That’s you opening your mouth about something you probably shouldn’t have and then crying victim afterwards when the outcome didn’t go as you expected.
You apologized profusely in DMs, we made peace on this. You're an idiot for engaging in low level banter with someone you don't even know while rather just ignoring it, because it's absolutely unnecessary to post on here about that, unless it's out of the sake of posture. Sorry the honesty of my opinion hurts, and the feeble attempt at gaslighting is a bit childish. I described exactly your actions as being one of the reasons the perceptions of anons from the public is what it is.
You are outing yourself. Post where I said anything about military not needed, because they are absolutely needed. You won't. That's fake news at it's prime. Why would I even be here and agree multiple times about the premise of not for mil, DOD or SOCOM, though they are so starkly different, the respect is still the same, we would not have a chance in hell against the DS? You're making shit up, and proving the point of my reply. It's vets who ever since Vietnam, are being bastardized to the point of suicide and it's a horrifying epidemic.
(Also, what is my training, what even is that, lol, try harder plz)
This brief interaction with another Anon here, is so cringe - and takes the wind out of your sails - for the entire post. 😞 Which by the way was/is a great OP - but after seeing how you interact with others, it makes me question how genuine it is at all. The sad part is that you just don’t see it. PRIDE 😬
God bless and have a great day.
I see you haven’t changed a wink, and I don’t have to post anything. Anyone who wants to see it bad enough can go look through your comments. Apologized profusely? Yeah okay dude 🤣 Good luck on your journey.
You got your deserved sticky, maybe if there was less manipulation, some of the genuinely good posts would make their way to the sticky page. It could be based on upticks or a button could be added requesting a sticky, the more real votes adding weight, currently you have to deport the post I think?
The method that was suggested by a mod a while back was to use the deport button, select “Other” and enter “Recommended for sticky” as the reason, as it escalates the suggestion to the full mod team.
Kek, thank you Expert. Yep, that's standard practice for me now. At the time of commenting, the post had not been stickied, so yeah, sure, i deported and stated "Sticky Request + (my reason why I think it stick-worthy)".
In many instances, the mod team responds positively to my sticky requests. When they don't, I feel confident they have good reasons.