Hey, what about those here who are not Americans? I can't really own a gun due to that, even if it is not completely impossible in Finland getting one is pretty difficult these days and takes time (you need to join a gun club, start training with air guns and maybe be allowed to ascent to real guns after a year or so, then keep shooting loaned guns, maybe after a couple of years you will get the permits to buy one real one for yourself, and all of that also costs quite a bit and you will end up in lots of official records and the police will start to keep at least bit of an eye on you...), and I could not carry legally (only hunters can, when hunting).
Garden would be nice, but I live in an apartment building, and while I do have a balcony it's pretty minuscule.
Democrats? Nope, don't trust, nor a lot of your Republican politicians either, but that doesn't really matter one way or another because I will not vote in your elections.
I presume the first two in that list mostly mean "be prepared for when the brown matter hits the fan".
Heh. About that bit how owning a gun means you will be at least somewhat under police observation, or at the very least they will check on you from time to time... considering what things are like in EU, although they don't say it my guess is that simply because I do hang out in a few places like this one I am already under at least some observation. Which, BTW, has been the reason why there have been long periods when I don't post or comment. Doing it does worry me a bit.
My country has draft, so at least a large percentage, and these days some women, learn to shoot during their military service, and most of them will afterwards take part in more or less regular military refresher courses, but even they don't have it any easier when it comes to privately owned firearms. In practice only people who hunt regularly - and you need permits etc for that too - have it a bit easier, and can, when hunting, carry a loaded weapon with them. For others, shooting can mostly only happen on shooting ranges or similar controlled practice areas. People do it in other places too, those who live on the countryside, but I don't know how much in trouble one might get in if one wasn't a registered hunter, and it was outside of hunting season, and you were surprised by the police while practicing somewhere like an abandoned field, like those friends of mine commonly did 40 years ago.
That's sad. I own a Glock 9 mil hand gun and an AR 19 - doesn't shoot the big boys, it's a 9 mil also. I live in a suburban area now since my husband passed. We lived in more rural areas most of our marriage - shooting on your property was fine. I do go to a range now bc you can't just shoot in your backyard in this area, houses are too compact together - unless it's for self defense, no shooting for the safety of my neighbors lol. I enjoy shooting, am pretty good at it. I will pray things change there for you.
We can't legally carry at all, and at home the guns should be locked up and empty of ammunition, so in practice we can't defend ourselves with guns at all.
All these rules have come in during the last decades, you could still get guns fairly easily, and the permits, and it was still possible to get carry permits too, when I was in my teens, although the rules were even then tighter than most parts of the USA, including the worst gun rights states there. But they just kept tightening them, and mostly kind of hidden too, our MSM never wrote anything about those. When I considered starting shooting as a hobby a decade ago I was very unpleasantly surprised when I found all of that out. I knew a couple of men who owned guns and practiced shooting as a hobby back in the early 80s, and had always just assumed that the rules were still pretty similar to what they had been then, bad, but nowhere as bad as they turned out to be.
We never completely lost the class distinctions here. Or at all, they are merely disguised and moving between them is easier, get the right credentials by studying in an university, get the right friends, lick the right butts and prove yourself useful to them and you can get into the "noble" class now, but the mindset is still pretty much the same. The ones who don't manage to "rise" to the nobles don't matter much, and should listen to their betters. If they don't, they can be forced to, or tricked to.
I've got a garden with an 8' fence all around it. Couple of days ago eight bucks were loitering around it, two had gotten inside. I live in the city, thus I can't shoot them. They picked my garden clean like Democrat at a welfare handout party. Whats a poor soul to do?
Done and done, but my old arthritic fingers are not reliable on the trigger anymore, luckily my big strong son lives on the homestead with me and we work together. I am up in the northeast, the garden is going well. My neighbors are a mixed bag, we don't talk politics, I keep my mouth shut unless asked directly. Lots of Kennedy supporters around here, and new transplants driving up property prices for the younger people. I call them Instagram Homesteaders, don't know their politics, but nobody trusts them. They want suburban amenities and are weak.
Well you CAN trust a Democrat...to be a Democrat. You can trust that they will betray you, lie to you, and steal from you every chance they get.
Howls. Damn right.
I've done all 3 but even with a shade tarp my garden is suffering.
The heat is unreal this year. My garden is suffering as well
It's been over 100 mostly for the last week and a half. Plants died or scorched and wilted. We're trying.
Hard to grow anything
I remember those good ol' days when I owned a gun.
Damn boating accidents.
Perhaps I should start up a river boat tour for dimocraps only...
Oh you are funny.
Same. The garden's planted, but not doing great this year.
You are better than me by long stretch.
Hey, what about those here who are not Americans? I can't really own a gun due to that, even if it is not completely impossible in Finland getting one is pretty difficult these days and takes time (you need to join a gun club, start training with air guns and maybe be allowed to ascent to real guns after a year or so, then keep shooting loaned guns, maybe after a couple of years you will get the permits to buy one real one for yourself, and all of that also costs quite a bit and you will end up in lots of official records and the police will start to keep at least bit of an eye on you...), and I could not carry legally (only hunters can, when hunting).
Garden would be nice, but I live in an apartment building, and while I do have a balcony it's pretty minuscule.
Democrats? Nope, don't trust, nor a lot of your Republican politicians either, but that doesn't really matter one way or another because I will not vote in your elections.
I presume the first two in that list mostly mean "be prepared for when the brown matter hits the fan".
Heh. About that bit how owning a gun means you will be at least somewhat under police observation, or at the very least they will check on you from time to time... considering what things are like in EU, although they don't say it my guess is that simply because I do hang out in a few places like this one I am already under at least some observation. Which, BTW, has been the reason why there have been long periods when I don't post or comment. Doing it does worry me a bit.
Holy crap! All that to be able to defend yourself? I'm sorry fren
My country has draft, so at least a large percentage, and these days some women, learn to shoot during their military service, and most of them will afterwards take part in more or less regular military refresher courses, but even they don't have it any easier when it comes to privately owned firearms. In practice only people who hunt regularly - and you need permits etc for that too - have it a bit easier, and can, when hunting, carry a loaded weapon with them. For others, shooting can mostly only happen on shooting ranges or similar controlled practice areas. People do it in other places too, those who live on the countryside, but I don't know how much in trouble one might get in if one wasn't a registered hunter, and it was outside of hunting season, and you were surprised by the police while practicing somewhere like an abandoned field, like those friends of mine commonly did 40 years ago.
That's sad. I own a Glock 9 mil hand gun and an AR 19 - doesn't shoot the big boys, it's a 9 mil also. I live in a suburban area now since my husband passed. We lived in more rural areas most of our marriage - shooting on your property was fine. I do go to a range now bc you can't just shoot in your backyard in this area, houses are too compact together - unless it's for self defense, no shooting for the safety of my neighbors lol. I enjoy shooting, am pretty good at it. I will pray things change there for you.
We can't legally carry at all, and at home the guns should be locked up and empty of ammunition, so in practice we can't defend ourselves with guns at all.
All these rules have come in during the last decades, you could still get guns fairly easily, and the permits, and it was still possible to get carry permits too, when I was in my teens, although the rules were even then tighter than most parts of the USA, including the worst gun rights states there. But they just kept tightening them, and mostly kind of hidden too, our MSM never wrote anything about those. When I considered starting shooting as a hobby a decade ago I was very unpleasantly surprised when I found all of that out. I knew a couple of men who owned guns and practiced shooting as a hobby back in the early 80s, and had always just assumed that the rules were still pretty similar to what they had been then, bad, but nowhere as bad as they turned out to be.
Lordy! That's horrible!! I'll pray ya'll free yourselves enough for self protection
Sad, man. Thanks for sharing that insight about the land called Suomi. Creepy!
It made this just now dawn on me:
EUROPEAN = YOU'RE A PEON
(BTW that is intended not as an insult but as a commiseration :)
We never completely lost the class distinctions here. Or at all, they are merely disguised and moving between them is easier, get the right credentials by studying in an university, get the right friends, lick the right butts and prove yourself useful to them and you can get into the "noble" class now, but the mindset is still pretty much the same. The ones who don't manage to "rise" to the nobles don't matter much, and should listen to their betters. If they don't, they can be forced to, or tricked to.
Wow. I am so sorry. I don't know what to tell you but I know most countries don't have the constitution like U.S.
Already done…many years ago.
Good for you!
Yeah, own 10 guns.
Nice.
Plant a garden? No thanks….
Why not?
I guess I will have to settle for a golf club, living in Australia.
Ouch. I am sorry.
I've got a garden with an 8' fence all around it. Couple of days ago eight bucks were loitering around it, two had gotten inside. I live in the city, thus I can't shoot them. They picked my garden clean like Democrat at a welfare handout party. Whats a poor soul to do?
I was going to say dogs. Someone beats me to it. There's also sprays that you can use.
Get a big dog. Deer can attack dogs, but maybe something like a Cane Corso? Then train it well?
Or try some of these? Sprinklers sound like an interesting choice.
https://savvygardening.com/deer-proof-gardens/
And more advice. https://www.ruralsprout.com/keep-deer-out-of-your-garden/
Me too. Regardless of what I do, nothing I plant grows.
I AM THE ANTI-PLANT
Oh wow. You are worse than me. LOL
Done and done, but my old arthritic fingers are not reliable on the trigger anymore, luckily my big strong son lives on the homestead with me and we work together. I am up in the northeast, the garden is going well. My neighbors are a mixed bag, we don't talk politics, I keep my mouth shut unless asked directly. Lots of Kennedy supporters around here, and new transplants driving up property prices for the younger people. I call them Instagram Homesteaders, don't know their politics, but nobody trusts them. They want suburban amenities and are weak.
I am so glad to hear that your big strong homestead with you.
Wow! This is Worthy of Mark Twain!
Amen.
ditto, i got a black thumb man
Start small. The only thing so far that grow under my thumbs are herbs. Mint, Aloe Vera. You are not alone.
The natural state of things in my household.
Amen.