Yes. But they do not consider him God in the flesh, they do not believe he was born of a virgin, and they don't believe that he was executed and resurrected.
I’m guessing by your one word answer you disagree with it, but asked because the verses I’ve seen used to support Trinitarianism don’t seem to rule it out (an example: [1]), and it does resolve some major conflicts with bringing the other two Abrahamics to understanding of Christ, while trinitarian concept doesn’t seem to add anything toward salvation.
If trinitarian doctrine doesn’t add anything toward salvation, and does create a stumbling block that prevents others from coming to understanding of Christ, which it almost did for me in my youth as well, shouldn’t it be avoided?
“It’s just one of God’s mysteries”, which is what I’ve always heard, is a bad explanation. It comes off as “I don’t have an answer, and am not going to indicate that I’ll get you one”, or “I don’t know and want to retain my air of authority”, or worse, which isn’t good.
“Air of Authority”? What an odd phrase.
None of this is to say anything is wrong or right, just that I’ve never understood why something that doesn’t appear to be involved in the process of salvation, isn’t crystal clear, is difficult or impossible to fully explain, and isn’t explicitly scriptural to the best of my knowledge, is so insistently put forth as a key part of coming into faith. The only place it seems somewhat relevant is in baptism, but even there the meaning of the verse could be something else.
I accept that I’m off the beaten dogmatic path with all this, but the path that we’ve been on has led us into widespread transgenderism, invasion, poisoning, and communism, which are all biblical curses and oppression of foreign gods, so everything is humbly and justifiably up for inspection as to what we did wrong. Only the scriptures and Adonai hold fast.
Muslims regard Jesus Christ as a prophet.
Yes. But they do not consider him God in the flesh, they do not believe he was born of a virgin, and they don't believe that he was executed and resurrected.
Jews don't believe Jesus was God in the flesh, or that He was born of a virgin or the resurrection. They do believe in the execution part....
You mean Judaism doesn't teach.
Most of the apostles and Jesus were Jews.
Messianic Jews Believe all those things
You familiar with Unitarianism?
Yes
Downvotes aren’t mine.
I’m guessing by your one word answer you disagree with it, but asked because the verses I’ve seen used to support Trinitarianism don’t seem to rule it out (an example: [1]), and it does resolve some major conflicts with bringing the other two Abrahamics to understanding of Christ, while trinitarian concept doesn’t seem to add anything toward salvation.
If trinitarian doctrine doesn’t add anything toward salvation, and does create a stumbling block that prevents others from coming to understanding of Christ, which it almost did for me in my youth as well, shouldn’t it be avoided?
“It’s just one of God’s mysteries”, which is what I’ve always heard, is a bad explanation. It comes off as “I don’t have an answer, and am not going to indicate that I’ll get you one”, or “I don’t know and want to retain my air of authority”, or worse, which isn’t good.
“Air of Authority”? What an odd phrase.
None of this is to say anything is wrong or right, just that I’ve never understood why something that doesn’t appear to be involved in the process of salvation, isn’t crystal clear, is difficult or impossible to fully explain, and isn’t explicitly scriptural to the best of my knowledge, is so insistently put forth as a key part of coming into faith. The only place it seems somewhat relevant is in baptism, but even there the meaning of the verse could be something else.
u/solarsavior
I accept that I’m off the beaten dogmatic path with all this, but the path that we’ve been on has led us into widespread transgenderism, invasion, poisoning, and communism, which are all biblical curses and oppression of foreign gods, so everything is humbly and justifiably up for inspection as to what we did wrong. Only the scriptures and Adonai hold fast.
[1] https://www.crossway.org/articles/10-key-bible-verses-on-the-trinity/
True, but ask them what learnings they took from Jesus the ""prophet"" and they won't be able to answer.
Mohammed just said that so he could get as many new members into his rapist bandit cult as possible.