No, Abram was put into a deep sleep when the covenant was made to signify that the covenant is fully on God. There is no requirement for Abram or his descendants to do anything.
12And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
17And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
18In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates
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Thank you for the prompt. I don't know where I got the idea that they had to obey God or fulfill some requirements to fully possess the promised land.
Even still since Christ fulfilled the Law and the Prophets it would be counted as such, yes? Then by extension all who believe in Christ are included somehow? Can you help me hone in on what's happening here, my head is starting to spin 😅
Fren, this is a different, separate covenant from the covenant of the law (Covenant of Moses). The Mosaic Covenant is conditional, but the Abrahamic Covenant is unconditional.
do the two covenants relate to one another / flow together somehow? Is the Mosaic covenant nested within the Abrahamic?
I think I recall learning about this early on in my walk.
Abraham was given the promise
Moses was given the law
Jesus fulfilled the law, and the promise is steadily being fulfilled as we speak and throughout all of time. The Law / Prophets was a temporary portion of God's ultimate plan, the promise. Am I onto the correct path here?
Yeah, this stuff can be a bit difficult... I hope you don't mind I enlisted the aid of AI to answer this question, since I'm a bit slow (and inarticulate) -
How are the mosaic and abrahamic covenants related?
The Mosaic Covenant and the Abrahamic Covenant are closely connected, with the latter unfolding and expanding the former [I think it means the former unfolding and expanding the latter]. Here are key points highlighting their relationship:
Unconditional vs. Conditional: The Abrahamic Covenant is unilateral and unconditional, with God making promises to Abraham without specifying conditions (Genesis 12:2-3, 15:1-21). In contrast, the Mosaic Covenant is conditional, requiring obedience to God’s laws and commands (Exodus 19-24).
Expansion and Fulfillment: The Mosaic Covenant builds upon and fulfills the promises made in the Abrahamic Covenant. The Abrahamic Covenant predicted the growth of Abraham’s descendants into a nation (Genesis 12:2-3), while the Mosaic Covenant defines Israel as a nation under God’s law (Exodus 19-24).
Signs and Symbols: Both covenants feature signs and symbols. The Abrahamic Covenant is marked by circumcision (Genesis 17:9-14), while the Mosaic Covenant is characterized by the Passover and Sabbath (Exodus 12:1-30, 20:8-11).
Purpose and Focus: The Abrahamic Covenant emphasizes God’s promise to redeem humanity and establish a relationship with His people. The Mosaic Covenant, while still focused on redemption, adds a layer of responsibility and obedience, defining Israel as a covenant people.
Temporal and Eschatological: The Mosaic Covenant is a temporary covenant, given to Israel during their wilderness wanderings and until the coming of the Messiah (Hebrews 8:13). The Abrahamic Covenant, on the other hand, is an eternal covenant, pointing to the ultimate redemption and restoration of humanity through Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:8, Romans 4:13-16).
In summary, the Mosaic Covenant is a development and expansion of the Abrahamic Covenant, with the latter providing the foundation and promise, and the former defining the terms and responsibilities of Israel as God’s covenant people.
No, Abram was put into a deep sleep when the covenant was made to signify that the covenant is fully on God. There is no requirement for Abram or his descendants to do anything.
Gen. 15:12-21
12And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror of great darkness fell upon him. 13And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years; 14And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance. 15And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age. 16But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
17And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
18In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates
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Thank you for the prompt. I don't know where I got the idea that they had to obey God or fulfill some requirements to fully possess the promised land.
Even still since Christ fulfilled the Law and the Prophets it would be counted as such, yes? Then by extension all who believe in Christ are included somehow? Can you help me hone in on what's happening here, my head is starting to spin 😅
Fren, this is a different, separate covenant from the covenant of the law (Covenant of Moses). The Mosaic Covenant is conditional, but the Abrahamic Covenant is unconditional.
I think I'm now more confused. Kek
do the two covenants relate to one another / flow together somehow? Is the Mosaic covenant nested within the Abrahamic?
I think I recall learning about this early on in my walk.
Abraham was given the promise
Moses was given the law
Jesus fulfilled the law, and the promise is steadily being fulfilled as we speak and throughout all of time. The Law / Prophets was a temporary portion of God's ultimate plan, the promise. Am I onto the correct path here?
Yeah, this stuff can be a bit difficult... I hope you don't mind I enlisted the aid of AI to answer this question, since I'm a bit slow (and inarticulate) -
How are the mosaic and abrahamic covenants related?
The Mosaic Covenant and the Abrahamic Covenant are closely connected, with the latter unfolding and expanding the former [I think it means the former unfolding and expanding the latter]. Here are key points highlighting their relationship:
Unconditional vs. Conditional: The Abrahamic Covenant is unilateral and unconditional, with God making promises to Abraham without specifying conditions (Genesis 12:2-3, 15:1-21). In contrast, the Mosaic Covenant is conditional, requiring obedience to God’s laws and commands (Exodus 19-24).
Expansion and Fulfillment: The Mosaic Covenant builds upon and fulfills the promises made in the Abrahamic Covenant. The Abrahamic Covenant predicted the growth of Abraham’s descendants into a nation (Genesis 12:2-3), while the Mosaic Covenant defines Israel as a nation under God’s law (Exodus 19-24).
Signs and Symbols: Both covenants feature signs and symbols. The Abrahamic Covenant is marked by circumcision (Genesis 17:9-14), while the Mosaic Covenant is characterized by the Passover and Sabbath (Exodus 12:1-30, 20:8-11).
Purpose and Focus: The Abrahamic Covenant emphasizes God’s promise to redeem humanity and establish a relationship with His people. The Mosaic Covenant, while still focused on redemption, adds a layer of responsibility and obedience, defining Israel as a covenant people.
Temporal and Eschatological: The Mosaic Covenant is a temporary covenant, given to Israel during their wilderness wanderings and until the coming of the Messiah (Hebrews 8:13). The Abrahamic Covenant, on the other hand, is an eternal covenant, pointing to the ultimate redemption and restoration of humanity through Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:8, Romans 4:13-16).
In summary, the Mosaic Covenant is a development and expansion of the Abrahamic Covenant, with the latter providing the foundation and promise, and the former defining the terms and responsibilities of Israel as God’s covenant people.