Thank you fren. That is pretty much where I'm at with it. I've got another few questions out to someone else in this thread, waiting on response. Feel free to jump in if you'd like
I see, you are not the one who is confused there in fact good on you for utilizing scripture and scripture only. The covenant to Abraham's seed was to everyone and is what translated into both the old and new law or covenant.
I've heard it said by a wise old preacher (now in heaven) that the entire bible's theme is: God came back.
By God blessing Abraham's seed he is saying that every nation on Earth (don't forget Ishmael) would have the opportunity to eternal life. This isn't some hidden Indian Jones relic we need to unpack here. And like you so adequately stated To the Jew first and also to the Greek or Jew and Gentile.
Peter meeting with Cornelius in Acts 10 after his vision is proof that God was reaching out to the Gentiles. But it was the Jew first because they were the first nation, the ones under the old law.
Paul in Ephesians 3:1 makes it know. His aim was to preach to the Gentiles.
So the old law was nailed to the cross "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second." Hebrews 8:7 because it couldn't save, it couldn't save because no one could keep it and the blood of bulls and goats did not wash sins away like the blood of Jesus does after baptism. Romans 6:1-5.
And this is where it ends. The promise to Abraham's seed is fulfilled in God taking care of His children in the old and the New covenant offering salvation to all who would submit to Him.
I really hope this makes sense you can kick me and ask me to clarify any points I didn't explain too well or if you want more scripture for these things. God bless you!
It makes sense, and is refreshing and succinct. Ty!
By God blessing Abraham's seed he is saying that every nation on Earth (don't forget Ishmael) would have the opportunity to eternal life.
But it was the Jew first because they were the first nation, the ones under the old law.
I'm getting a haze of revelations right now. I say a haze because nothing concrete yet but moreso feels like "the wheels are turning" in my head. I am pondering on the dynamics between the satanic Tower of Babel, which I think is the first nation, or maybe first city, or even perhaps first "human institution" or organization,
and the structure God set up in Israel. Parallels and differences... Tower of Babel definitely triangular power structure under Nimrod. Common man likely not significant. Was Israel structured in such a way, or did it have some sort of checks and balances? Was it delinear to a degree? I wish I knew more about ancient Israel's political and religious systems but I never was too drawn to the weighty sections of scripture which went into that stuff. I found it boring when compared to the rest of scripture.
Sorry for rambling on.
And please whatever you do, don't ask me to go read Leviticus! 😆 (jk, I will if you think it's relevent)
Haha hey man sorry I've been away I was writing my lesson for this Sunday morning as I was preaching. As for the lay out of Israel's buildings there have been many archeologists that have visited there and even in the back of most bible's will have the lay out of the city as well as the Tabernacle and things like that.
If you want to know about the customs and things haha yes Leviticus is your best bet but also for a shorter more precise version of (I believe) the things you are looking for try Exodus 20 to about Exodus 26. It's Moses on Mt.Siani when God is setting up Israel as a nation and all their customary practices aong with the Tabernacle and things like that.
You mentioned the tower of babel being a triangle and wanting to look into the triangular power structure of Israel or Jerusalem for the same I failed to answer that directly as I really don't know what you mean. I hope you're doing okay and I look forward to hearing back from you!
You mentioned the tower of babel being a triangle and wanting to look into the triangular power structure of Israel or Jerusalem for the same I failed to answer that directly as I really don't know what you mean
I just meant how the power is absolute at the top (Nimrod the dictator "priest-king") and the low levels of common men have little to no power. I was curious to contrast that system, which I find to be present in the Papacy, (though with less and less direct power, yet still with great hidden power in back-room politics / influence on governments and corporations) with the system set up in ancient Israel. Things that I'm looking for are things which were put in to counter such a power structure, since fallen man is so incapable of maintaining something like that. It always ends up with satan controlling the top, and the people suffer. I am reminded of when Israel asked for a king and God essentially did the equivalent of a heavenly face-palm... "fine, go ahead. Ugh." 😂
Exodus 20 to about Exodus 26.
thank you, I'll check that out. Anything to avoid Leviticus 😆😆
Thank you fren. That is pretty much where I'm at with it. I've got another few questions out to someone else in this thread, waiting on response. Feel free to jump in if you'd like
https://greatawakening.win/p/17txR9tBUG/x/c/4ZDrsmiP5TZ
(that's just one of the replies in our discussion, you'll have to scroll around to find the start)
I see, you are not the one who is confused there in fact good on you for utilizing scripture and scripture only. The covenant to Abraham's seed was to everyone and is what translated into both the old and new law or covenant.
I've heard it said by a wise old preacher (now in heaven) that the entire bible's theme is: God came back.
By God blessing Abraham's seed he is saying that every nation on Earth (don't forget Ishmael) would have the opportunity to eternal life. This isn't some hidden Indian Jones relic we need to unpack here. And like you so adequately stated To the Jew first and also to the Greek or Jew and Gentile.
Peter meeting with Cornelius in Acts 10 after his vision is proof that God was reaching out to the Gentiles. But it was the Jew first because they were the first nation, the ones under the old law.
Paul in Ephesians 3:1 makes it know. His aim was to preach to the Gentiles.
So the old law was nailed to the cross "For if that first covenant had been faultless, then no place would have been sought for a second." Hebrews 8:7 because it couldn't save, it couldn't save because no one could keep it and the blood of bulls and goats did not wash sins away like the blood of Jesus does after baptism. Romans 6:1-5.
And this is where it ends. The promise to Abraham's seed is fulfilled in God taking care of His children in the old and the New covenant offering salvation to all who would submit to Him.
I really hope this makes sense you can kick me and ask me to clarify any points I didn't explain too well or if you want more scripture for these things. God bless you!
It makes sense, and is refreshing and succinct. Ty!
I'm getting a haze of revelations right now. I say a haze because nothing concrete yet but moreso feels like "the wheels are turning" in my head. I am pondering on the dynamics between the satanic Tower of Babel, which I think is the first nation, or maybe first city, or even perhaps first "human institution" or organization,
and the structure God set up in Israel. Parallels and differences... Tower of Babel definitely triangular power structure under Nimrod. Common man likely not significant. Was Israel structured in such a way, or did it have some sort of checks and balances? Was it delinear to a degree? I wish I knew more about ancient Israel's political and religious systems but I never was too drawn to the weighty sections of scripture which went into that stuff. I found it boring when compared to the rest of scripture.
Sorry for rambling on.
And please whatever you do, don't ask me to go read Leviticus! 😆 (jk, I will if you think it's relevent)
Haha hey man sorry I've been away I was writing my lesson for this Sunday morning as I was preaching. As for the lay out of Israel's buildings there have been many archeologists that have visited there and even in the back of most bible's will have the lay out of the city as well as the Tabernacle and things like that.
If you want to know about the customs and things haha yes Leviticus is your best bet but also for a shorter more precise version of (I believe) the things you are looking for try Exodus 20 to about Exodus 26. It's Moses on Mt.Siani when God is setting up Israel as a nation and all their customary practices aong with the Tabernacle and things like that.
You mentioned the tower of babel being a triangle and wanting to look into the triangular power structure of Israel or Jerusalem for the same I failed to answer that directly as I really don't know what you mean. I hope you're doing okay and I look forward to hearing back from you!
No worries fren!
I just meant how the power is absolute at the top (Nimrod the dictator "priest-king") and the low levels of common men have little to no power. I was curious to contrast that system, which I find to be present in the Papacy, (though with less and less direct power, yet still with great hidden power in back-room politics / influence on governments and corporations) with the system set up in ancient Israel. Things that I'm looking for are things which were put in to counter such a power structure, since fallen man is so incapable of maintaining something like that. It always ends up with satan controlling the top, and the people suffer. I am reminded of when Israel asked for a king and God essentially did the equivalent of a heavenly face-palm... "fine, go ahead. Ugh." 😂
thank you, I'll check that out. Anything to avoid Leviticus 😆😆
Btw found this while looking for something else
https://www.seekbibletruth.org/wp/2016/12/18/which-laws-were-nailed-to-the-cross/
I'll check into this, looks tasty! Thank you fren